If Dungy Believes in him, so do I

[Mahdi]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/22/dungy-on-vick-i-believe-in-him/

Dungy is well known to the NFL community as a decent and upstanding also God-fearing person, if he stands by Vick, so do I.

IMO it takes a good person to forgive.

Get it done Ralph!

[OpIv37]

Re: If Dungy Believes in him, so do I

None of that has anything to do with Vick's ability to play football at a high level. The only thing that even touches on Vick's football ability (or lack thereof) is when Dungy said he had "potential."

Well, so what? I can name 30 guys that had potential and never amounted to anything on the field off the top of my head.

[Forward_Lateral]

Re: If Dungy Believes in him, so do I

Vick sucks as a QB, so, who cares?

[Mahdi]

Re: If Dungy Believes in him, so do I

None of that has anything to do with Vick's ability to play football at a high level. The only thing that even touches on Vick's football ability (or lack thereof) is when Dungy said he had "potential."

Well, so what? I can name 30 guys that had potential and never amounted to anything on the field off the top of my head.

Even though this thread has nothing to do with football ability....

The game of football is tackle and avoid being tackled... when it comes to the latter Vick is second only to Barry. So saying he has a lack of football ability is nonsensical.

[Prov401]

Re: If Dungy Believes in him, so do I

Michael Vick sucks. End.

[Mahdi]

Re: If Dungy Believes in him, so do I

Vick sucks as a QB, so, who cares?

Do you really think Pat White was drafted to be Peyton Manning?

[EDS]

Re: If Dungy Believes in him, so do I

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/...elieve-in-him/


Dungy is well known to the NFL community as a decent and upstanding also God-fearing person, if he stands by Vick, so do I.

IMO it takes a good person to forgive.

Get it done Ralph!

You gotta be kidding me. Vick is not the answer. Trent may not be either, but the last thing this team needs is another guy with off-the-field issues.

[TigerJ]

Re: If Dungy Believes in him, so do I

I believe in the same God Tony Dungy believes in, and I have no problem giving Michael Vick a second chance. However, like Op, I believe he's a poor fit for what the Bills are trying to do offensively. His physical skills have likely eroded after being away from the game, and mentally I don't have the confidence that he's going to make good decisions with the ball. Whe just went out and spent significant money on Terrel Owens to give Trent Edwards a second big play threat and take the pressure off Lee Evans. You replace Trent with Michael Vick and suddeny it doesn't matter who your wide receivers are because your offense with Michael Vick as the trigger man is all about Michael Vick and the threat he is to run the ball.

[Mahdi]

Re: If Dungy Believes in him, so do I

I believe in the same God Tony Dungy believes in, and I have no problem giving Michael Vick a second chance. However, like Op, I believe he's a poor fit for what the Bills are trying to do offensively. His physical skills have likely eroded after being away from the game, and mentally I don't have the confidence that he's going to make good decisions with the ball. Whe just went out and spent significant money on Terrel Owens to give Trent Edwards a second big play threat and take the pressure off Lee Evans. You replace Trent with Michael Vick and suddeny it doesn't matter who your wide receivers are because your offense with Michael Vick as the trigger man is all about Michael Vick and the threat he is to run the ball.

Why exactly would we replace Trent with Michael Vick...

No matter who signs Vick he will not be a starting QB,,, he will be a package QB... used as a Wildcat or in some sort of option package.

No one is suggesting he take over for Trent.

[OpIv37]

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Even though this thread has nothing to do with football ability....

The game of football is tackle and avoid being tackled... when it comes to the latter Vick is second only to Barry. So saying he has a lack of football ability is nonsensical.

Vick plays QB. There is MUCH more to being a QB than not getting tackled.

[OpIv37]

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You gotta be kidding me. Vick is not the answer. Trent may not be either, but the last thing this team needs is another guy with off-the-field issues.

or another QB with fast feet, a cannon arm and no brains. We just got rid of one of those.

[Dr. Lecter]

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Vick's sentence is not even going to over until July 20.

He then has to get re-instated. And then released by Atlanta (which will be quick).

Then he will listen to offers. By the time he is willing, ready and able to sign, it likely won't be until late August at the best and more likely not until the season is underway.

Pass.

[yordad]

Re: If Dungy Believes in him, so do I

Vick's sentence is not even going to over until July 20.

He then has to get re-instated. And then released by Atlanta (which will be quick).

Then he will listen to offers. By the time he is willing, ready and able to sign, it likely won't be until late August at the best and more likely not until the season is underway.

Pass.

If you keep "passing" he will sign with the Dolphins and run all over us.

[OpIv37]

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If you keep "passing" he will sign with the Dolphins and run all over us.

The Dolphins drafted Pat White. Signing Vick would be redundant.

[Turbo.GUN.Hawk!]

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Michael Vick sucked as a quarterback in his last two seasons when opposing teams noticed the obvious: if you don't let him run he is a poor thrower. He might have ran a lot of yards but just take a look at his passar rating and record in 05 and 06. Michael Vick is a mediocre quarterback, stop saying he is the "most excinting player in the NFL" because he was not.

Anyway, considering we have THE FITZ! as our replacement I wouldn't mind the Bills signing Vick but then again I wouldn't mind us signing Losman for that matter.