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  • Mike
    Registered User
    • Jan 2009
    • 3805

    Peters vs Boldin

    I wanted to mention something that I think most on this board misperceive. I have read many different treads that refer to a player in question [ no matter who, weather it is Peters, or Boldin, or Chad Johnson, or Lance Briggs etc..] as malcontent, unhappy, uncomprimisong, greedy etc...

    I wanted to set the air once and for all: THESE PLAYERS ARE ACTING. This is the pattern I have noticed:

    1. They play the role as being unhappy w/contract issues, they play their part in an effort to get more money. In this role they all usually say the same things, "the team and I are beyond repair, there is no way i will play for this team again, the relationships is finished/over, we do not communicate, I feel disrespected, etc..."

    2.Then they demand a trade (Brigs, Peters, Boldin, Law, Chad Johnson, etc...)

    3. They make a threat that they will no longer play for their team and hold out.

    4. If 3 does not work, they return to camp or during season and threaten that they will be a disruptive force (TO, Chad Johnson).

    If none of these strategies work, they play out the remainder of their contract, usually more impassioned in order to lure that big contract. Ironically, they usually resign, or stay with their current team -the team they swore they would never play for or sign with. If asked about their former comments (Lance Brings) they say that things are better.

    Now what about the Teams? Well the Pats stayed firm with Ty Law and won, he played, even though he went through all 4 Stages; Chicago ended up resigning Briggs eventhough he swore he would never play for them again; Chad Johnson is still in Cinci and was not the disruptive force he threatened to be;

    Well you may ask, what about Boldin? Well, if you did not hear, Boldin -after trying all 4 steps- recently fired his agent, now he is trying to repair the relationship with his team.

    So, lets try to keep things straith. We can not accuse Peters, of this or that, he was playing his role. He did what he could to earn more money, after all NFL is a business and the very same teams that the players play for, year after year, get cut when they loose value -even the great ones (Jerry Rice, SF). In the NFL, there are no pitty contracts, or handouts and we should not expect the players to give handout either (in the form of not asking for market value). In summery, please refrain from labeling the player, he is only acting out a Role.

    PS: on another note, why are we so AFRAID of ever admitting that the BILLS make mistakes? WHY?
    Please Make Sense
  • Luisito23
    Men Have Superbowl Gold, Legends Have Platinum Hearts!!!
    • Apr 2003
    • 7433

    #2
    Re: Peters vs Boldin

    Originally posted by Mike
    PS: on another note, why are we so AFRAID of ever admitting that the BILLS make mistakes? WHY?

    If there is one thing that the Bills do best is they're great at making mistakes, although the Peters situation I think was handled accordingly, plus that guy is overrated to begin with, and not worth the trouble, and cancer that he was causing this team.
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    • mayotm
      Registered User
      • Jul 2003
      • 2333

      #3
      Re: Peters vs Boldin

      Law, Briggs and Johnson weren't the same players after they started *****in' about their contracts. Boldin is a good player, but frequently injured. Plus, he's not the #1 receiver on his team, so can't get #1 receiver money from the Cards. He's obviously good enough to be a #1 elsewhere, but it doesn't matter since the he's under contract. We'll have to wait and see if the Eagles get the Peters from last year or two years ago before knowing who got the better of the deal.

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      • Goobylal
        Registered User
        • Jan 2004
        • 19366

        #4
        Re: Peters vs Boldin

        The difference between those other guys and Peters is that they all showed-up for at least training camp. I for one hope Peters is a dismal failure for the Eagles.

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        • FlyingDutchman
          Registered User
          • Apr 2005
          • 5074

          #5
          Re: Peters vs Boldin

          Those guys also had more than 1 good year and didnt demand the highest pay at their position after an average at best, year.

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          • ServoBillieves
            The Voice of Reason
            • Jul 2007
            • 6106

            #6
            Re: Peters vs Boldin

            Originally posted by Goobylal
            The difference between those other guys and Peters is that they all showed-up for at least training camp. I for one hope Peters is a dismal failure for the Eagles.
            I'm not one to wish harm upon others or to pray for failure (unless it's the Patriots) but Peters doesn't deserve his contract or to have been given what he wanted. We'll see what happens...
            Bye Bye Brady...

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            • Akhippo
              Registered User
              • Nov 2002
              • 838

              #7
              Re: Peters vs Boldin

              boldin *****ed and moaned. However, he busted his tail, got his face broken and came back SOONER than expected and didnt mail it in.

              Peters *****ed and moaned. Held out through camp, played bad, then came up with a mystery injury to finish his season.

              Boldin on my team hands down.
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              • Mike
                Registered User
                • Jan 2009
                • 3805

                #8
                Re: Peters vs Boldin

                For a Pro Bowl LT, Peters new contract is very reasonable. Wanting to be the highest paid was all Posturing. In sales, if you really want to be paid a certain amount, lets say 10mil, you purposely ask for 12, or 13mil -this way when the # get negotiated down by your team (no FA, so no competition among teams) you get the 10mil you wanted. If you ask for 10mil out of the gate, chances are you will get a lesser offer. So no SHI* he says he wants to be the highest paid LT in the game. LOOK at his contract NOW, is he the highest paid LT in the game, NO.

                I recall after his contact extension with the Eagles many of the fans on these boards were surprised at how low Peter's contract was saying something to the tune that we can have afforded that and it was not some extreem #.

                Last comment: We did not have to do anything! If we did what the Bears, Pats, Cinci, etc... we could still have Peters and be playing him the 4mil a year he signed for [if cinci and the cards can pull it off why cant we?] and as a result have a Much Better O-Line. We did not have to trade him, or pay him and after holding out last off season he himself said he would not do that again.

                The reason I bring this point up is so simple. I remember, before Peters, when we had Gandy etc... how many of us complained and talked about how desperately we needed a good LT. If only we had one, our offense would be better etc... We finnaly got one, only to give him away.

                Now lets talk about the money. I think this team is one of the cheapest in sports. We are up there with the Pirates and the Royals. For the most part, the majority of their solutions involve getting second tier free agents like TE Royal, advertising him to be a diamond in the rough and deluding many Bills fans until its too late. We have the money to Keep, and Attract Higher Dollar Free Agents so why don't we? Why are we never in the sweepstakes for the top players? Lastly, I hear, over and over, we can't afford this player of that player etc... Why Not? How can teams like the Pats and Colts afford multiple Superstars and we can not afford even one? Why is That?
                Please Make Sense

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                • feldspar
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 13620

                  #9
                  Re: Peters vs Boldin

                  Originally posted by Goobylal
                  The difference between those other guys and Peters is that they all showed-up for at least training camp. I for one hope Peters is a dismal failure for the Eagles.
                  Couldn't agree any more.

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                  • Goobylal
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 19366

                    #10
                    Re: Peters vs Boldin

                    Originally posted by HargroveforMVP
                    I'm not one to wish harm upon others or to pray for failure (unless it's the Patriots) but Peters doesn't deserve his contract or to have been given what he wanted. We'll see what happens...
                    I don't want to wish injury, but if it happens, I won't shed a tear. I just want him to play poorly and show that the Bills were correct in dealing him.

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                    • Throne Logic
                      Terry Tate - Outside Linebacker
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 2052

                      #11
                      Re: Peters vs Boldin

                      Originally posted by Mike
                      I recall after his contact extension with the Eagles many of the fans on these boards were surprised at how low Peter's contract was saying something to the tune that we can have afforded that and it was not some extreem #.

                      Last comment: We did not have to do anything! If we did what the Bears, Pats, Cinci, etc... we could still have Peters and be playing him the 4mil a year he signed for [if cinci and the cards can pull it off why cant we?] and as a result have a Much Better O-Line. We did not have to trade him, or pay him and after holding out last off season he himself said he would not do that again.
                      Peter's rejected the Bills offer, making it clear he did not want to be in Buffalo.

                      If we we did what the Bears, Pats, and Cinci did, we'd have what we had last year. Crap. He'd have held out until September, just like last year. Not only would he waste half the season trying to shake the rust off, the players who do show up and work all Summer would be at a disadvantage for having to spend valuable practice/pre-season time learning how to fill in the void Peter's would have left.

                      Up until last year, he was one of my all-time favorite stories. From undrafted over 300 lb TE to starting LT. Now, with what he pulled last Summer, I don't care that he's gone. The risk/reward became far too lopsided with this guy. He's the classic "me" player. He may play well out of the gate for Philly, but what I'm really watching is what happens toward the end of the season and into the next few years. Players with his attitude tend to become apathetic and lazy after they get the big contract. I could be wrong, but like I said, I'm playing the odds.
                      Still searching for that offensive rhythm.

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                      • Buckets
                        Registered User
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 804

                        #12
                        Re: Peters vs Boldin

                        Peters was undrafted and had received a new contract recently. I believe the situation was not the same. Had he come to camp, and been patient he would have gotten his money with the Bills.

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                        • colin
                          Drew's my hero!
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 2491

                          #13
                          Re: Peters vs Boldin

                          boldin got knocked the f out and his face broken and came back quickly to help his team make it to the super bowl. peters missed a training camp and then had a season where he let up double digit sacks.

                          boldin wants money for his outstanding talent, preparation, heart, and feel for the game. peters wants money for the one good season he had, as he has none of the other qualities and is a lazy quitter.

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                          • Mike
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 3805

                            #14
                            Re: Peters vs Boldin

                            I live in AZ, so I can tell you the fans perception of Boldin and Peters is not all that different. Both players have multiple years left on recently signed contracts, BOTH. Both wanted to be highest paid at their position. Both threated a holdout, and not playing etc....

                            The difference is not so much the players or what they did, but in how the organization handled the conflict. The Cards came out and said NO! The Bills caved in under the pressure and gave away a Pro Bowl LT. Cards were offered more for Boldin than Bills were offered for Peters which is odd considering that LT is a far more coveted position in the NFL than WR. Moreover, Boldin has an extensive injury history, you can safely assume he will miss at least 2 games per season with potential for more.
                            Please Make Sense

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                            • FlyingDutchman
                              Registered User
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 5074

                              #15
                              Re: Peters vs Boldin

                              I lived in Rochester and I can tell you nobody compares the two. How did the bills cave under pressure? Maybe more was offered for Boldin bc he had more than 1 good year at his position, and then didnt suck the next.
                              Last edited by FlyingDutchman; 06-16-2009, 07:15 AM.

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