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  • HHURRICANE
    Registered User
    • Mar 2005
    • 15490
    #1

    Bad Economy may keep the Bills in Buffalo.

    Alot of talk about the economy this week in the NFL and how it is putting a squeeze on alot of franchises right now.

    Tampa bay is in trouble with their ownership having huge ties to real estate.

    The Rams have no clear cut deal and you can add the Vikings and Jaguars to the list of franchises looking for buyers.

    So the question is whether Wilson has thought of a contignecy plan that doesn't involve selling the team. The team is also worth about 100 million less than it was a year ago.

    I'm not sure who their accountants are but their are better options than selling the team if they are trying to avoid estate issues.

    Buffalo's unemployment rate is actually 1.5% better than the national average so the argument that the area can't support the team is starting to look like swiss cheese compared to other markets.

    Any thoughts from the Buffalonians? Is Yahoo moving to Buffalo?
    Last edited by HHURRICANE; 07-04-2009, 11:35 AM.
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  • hydro
    Registered User
    • Oct 2005
    • 20160
    #2
    Re: Bad Economy may keep the Bills in Buffalo.

    Yahoo is officially making a data center in Buffalo, or at least that is what the news is saying.
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    • BillsWin
      man amongst boys
      • Oct 2008
      • 6025
      #3
      Re: Bad Economy may keep the Bills in Buffalo.

      i think the Buffalo community deserves the right to have stake in the team. Consider how much money families spend in a year on Bills stuff, tickets, jerseys, even that beer or hotdog you buy at the game costs major cash when all added together. The citizens and fans of Buffalo have thrown their hearts and wallets at the feet of this franchise for 50 years. I think its time to give back. Taking away the team would be the ultimate metaphor for a kick in the nuts.
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      • Jan Reimers
        Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
        • May 2003
        • 17353
        #4
        Re: Bad Economy may keep the Bills in Buffalo.

        Originally posted by BillsWin
        i think the Buffalo community deserves the right to have stake in the team. Consider how much money families spend in a year on Bills stuff, tickets, jerseys, even that beer or hotdog you buy at the game costs major cash when all added together. The citizens and fans of Buffalo have thrown their hearts and wallets at the feet of this franchise for 50 years. I think its time to give back. Taking away the team would be the ultimate metaphor for a kick in the nuts.
        Right now, public ownership of franchises is not allowed under NFL bylaws. The Green Bay situation has been grandfathered. But who knows if the owners would be agreeable to a change in the bylaws?

        And I agree with HH that there are teams in far worse economic shape than Buffalo. The Bills, in fact, are in relatively good shape because of having a strong fan base, a sweetheart stadium lease deal and no debt. If the franchise were to move, the combined debt to buy the franchise, pay NFL relocation costs and build a new stadium would in all likelihood be prohibitive in this economy.
        Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?
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        • jamze132
          Don’t hate…
          • Jun 2003
          • 29390
          #5
          Re: Bad Economy may keep the Bills in Buffalo.

          Well we know where Jerry Jones stands on the public ownership debate. *******.

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          • PromoTheRobot
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            • Sep 2003
            • 2311
            #6
            Re: Bad Economy may keep the Bills in Buffalo.

            This is a pipe dream but I just watched a Jon Bon Jovi interview on 60 minutes. He owns and Arena team and said he wants to buy a piece of an NFL team. Maybe he could buy the Bills?

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            • Jan Reimers
              Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
              • May 2003
              • 17353
              #7
              Re: Bad Economy may keep the Bills in Buffalo.

              Originally posted by PromoTheRobot
              This is a pipe dream but I just watched a Jon Bon Jovi interview on 60 minutes. He owns and Arena team and said he wants to buy a piece of an NFL team. Maybe he could buy the Bills?

              PTR
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              Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?
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              • THATHURMANATOR
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 69112
                #8
                Re: Bad Economy may keep the Bills in Buffalo.

                GO GO BUFFALO GO GO BUFFALO!!!

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                • Jan Reimers
                  Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                  • May 2003
                  • 17353
                  #9
                  Re: Bad Economy may keep the Bills in Buffalo.

                  If it weren't for Ralph's age and obstinate insistence on "selling to the highest bidder," the Bills' franchise would be secure in Buffalo, particularly in this economy.

                  The team's net revenue is in the top half of the league, we sell out virtually every game, the regional marketing plan is working, there is no debt, and the stadium lease is very favorable to the team. There are teams in far worse situations than us.

                  While our ticket prices are low, and we have 10-15 (out of 160 something) unsold luxury suites and 1,000 or so unsold premium seats, our overall revenues are fine.

                  Only Ralph's greed and his meaningless rants about the Buffalo economy can move this franchise. Ralph's bashing of Buffalo and WNY is an obvious red herring, as the team itself is doing just fine, despite the region's problems.
                  Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?
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                  • methos4ever
                    Registered User
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 1557
                    #10
                    Re: Bad Economy may keep the Bills in Buffalo.

                    At the end of the day, Ralph's angling in the best way possible for a new stadium and that will either happen around the end of the lease, or shortly after his passing. Just my opinion.

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                    • trapezeus
                      Legendary Zoner
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 19525
                      #11
                      Re: Bad Economy may keep the Bills in Buffalo.

                      how many kids and family does Ralph has? I think we all know of his daughter's passing earlier in the year? What happens if ralph outlives his kids and wife? Then what? Does he have a motivated interest to divide the team amongst grandchildren and what not?

                      i know that's a morbid question, but i think a fair one.

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                      • Scumbag College
                        Registered User
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 4949
                        #12
                        Re: Bad Economy may keep the Bills in Buffalo.

                        I think that there are a few other NFL teams that may move before the Bills. I think any potential owner will see the Toronto deal and the fact that for the most part the Bills are selling out pretty much every seat before the start of training camp and not want to risk moving the team and failing in the new city.

                        What I see happening is after Ralph's passing that there will be a new owner pushing for a downtown stadium. Ticket prices will go up probably 20 bucks or so a seat, and the thing that keeps the Bills in town or not will be the possibility of a new stadium and ticket sales with the increase in prices.
                        Last edited by Scumbag College; 07-06-2009, 09:06 PM.
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                        • jamze132
                          Don’t hate…
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 29390
                          #13
                          Re: Bad Economy may keep the Bills in Buffalo.

                          Even with higher priced seats, I still think fans will fill the stadium each week.
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                          • THATHURMANATOR
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 69112
                            #14
                            Re: Bad Economy may keep the Bills in Buffalo.

                            Originally posted by jamze132
                            Even with higher priced seats, I still think fans will fill the stadium each week.
                            That is a guarantee but there is a cap in regards to prices people will pay if they don't start winning something this century.

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                            • jamze132
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                              • Jun 2003
                              • 29390
                              #15
                              Re: Bad Economy may keep the Bills in Buffalo.

                              Originally posted by THATHURMANATOR
                              That is a guarantee but there is a cap in regards to prices people will pay if they don't start winning something this century.
                              I agree, but if the fans who actually attend the games in the future take a look back and see how much money they saved paying for cheaper tickets compared to the rest of the NFL, I think they can justify payingmore to keep the Bills intact. To be honest, Bills fans haven't paid nearly what other teams' season ticket holders have.
                              Last edited by jamze132; 07-07-2009, 08:36 AM.

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