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FlyingDutchman

07-21-2009, 06:51 PM

Didnt see this posted

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/07/21/roethlisberger.lawsuit/index.html?cnn=yes

FlyingDutchman

07-21-2009, 06:52 PM

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Ben Roethlisberger stands accused of sexual assault in Reno, Nev.
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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>A civil lawsuit was filed last week in Reno, Nev., accusing Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/6770) of sexual assault.
The lawsuit was filed in Washoe County, Nev., and accuses the two-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback of assaulting a woman in July 2008. Roethlisberger is named in the lawsuit along with nine co-defendants.
Roethlisberger's attorney, David Cornwell, acknowledged the suit to various media outlets, but released a statement denying the claim."Ben has never sexually assaulted anyone," Cornwell said in the statement.
The story was first reported by Pro Football Talk.com, which said that a female Harrah's casino employee had alleged the sexual assault against Roethlisberger. According to the Web site's report, the civil suit alleged that Roethlisberger asked the employee to come to his hotel room to fix the television, and that he later forced her to have sex with him.
Cornwell issued this statement on Roethlisberger's behalf late Monday night to various media outlets, including the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: "This weekend Andrea McNulty served Ben Roethlisberger with a civil complaint accusing him of sexually assaulting her in July 2008. Ben has never sexually assaulted anyone; especially Andrea McNulty. The timing of the lawsuit and the absence of a criminal complaint and a criminal investigation are the most compelling evidence of the absence of any criminal conduct. If an investigation is commenced, Ben will cooperate fully and Ben will be fully exonerated.

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FlyingDutchman

07-21-2009, 07:10 PM

Ive met Roethlisberger before, and personally i think hes an a$$hole. Doesnt make him guilty, just my two cents.

Syderick

07-21-2009, 07:11 PM

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9833272/Roethlisberger-listed-as-defendant-in-NV-lawsuit?GT1=39002

realdealryan

07-21-2009, 07:35 PM

The Washoe County sheriff's department is still investigating....

http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/M_R/Ra_Rh/Reno911/season5/reno-911-cast18.jpg

Mike13

07-21-2009, 08:04 PM

If this is true, I wonder how the NFL will punish him, Randy McMichael beat the **** out of his pregnant wife twice and got a slap on the wrist.

Block "O"

07-21-2009, 08:07 PM

MikeInRoch

07-21-2009, 08:22 PM

I agree. The civil suit coming before the criminal charges makes it look very much like a fleece job.

jpdex12

07-21-2009, 08:32 PM

Ive met Roethlisberger before, and personally i think hes an a$$hole. Doesnt make him guilty, just my two cents.

Of course he's a Steeler

justasportsfan

07-21-2009, 08:32 PM

He's probably guilty ans she asked for it.

Preacher

07-22-2009, 12:12 AM

Here's my thoughts.... as a Steelers fan.

1. To the suit itself. It seems to have quite a few holes in it. I am waiting to see more come out. But I have a feeling this will be more like the Kobe Bryant issue. HOWEVER...

2. As you all know I am a pastor. There are a number of things that are being said (in general, not necessarily here) that are just wrong... as I deal with the backside of this stuff.

a. Most rapes actually go unreported. it is NOT unusual for there to be no criminal case.

b. Often times, only after counseling will a victim be able to talk about it. However, with no rape kit, all other evidence long gone (probably) there is no recourse but civil suits.

c. Engaging in more and more dangerous sex, beginning or increased drug use, etc. etc. are all signs that rape may have happened... not signs that "she had it coming"

d. It DOES NOT MATTER WHAT A WOMAN DOES.... she NEVER ASKS FOR A RAPE. That is utterly ridiculous.

Except for the post just befor mine, not saying anyone here is saying that.. just that I have seen it posted in various places today.

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One absolute here... Either Ben did it, or Ben is an absolute IDIOT for putting himself in this situation.

Ingtar33

07-22-2009, 02:57 AM

No criminal charges? Jump right to the civil? I smell a greedy woman whos a liar. I hope after she loses, she has to incur all the courts costs. Unfortunately, Rothlisberger won't be able to get his reputation back.

i was thinking this too... this apparently happened a few years ago, and she never filed a police report, or even a complaint to her employer (she was a hotel hostess).

with no criminal charges and going straight to a civil suit, this looks like a con job.

that doesn't make it true. just it doesn't look credible to me.

even that girl who went after Kobe Bryant, went to the police about it. this girl didn't even do that much

LtFinFan66

07-22-2009, 05:36 AM

a year after the fact?? yeah...that happened:rolleyes:

Buffalogic

07-22-2009, 05:46 AM

First word that comes to my head is 'bogus'

Pinkerton Security

07-22-2009, 08:20 AM

Ive met Roethlisberger before, and personally i think hes an a$$hole. Doesnt make him guilty, just my two cents.

what'd he do that made you think that?

Ebenezer

07-22-2009, 08:24 AM

Here's my thoughts.... as a Steelers fan.

1. To the suit itself. It seems to have quite a few holes in it. I am waiting to see more come out. But I have a feeling this will be more like the Kobe Bryant issue. HOWEVER...

this was my first thought...a pay for play situation or some sort of affair/relationshiph gone awry...and after a year what kind of evidence can there be?

FlyingDutchman

07-22-2009, 08:47 AM

what'd he do that made you think that?

Couple different things. I met him at the Jim Kelly celeb golf tourny. I can understand what it must be like to have people approach you and how annoying it can be, but at that tourny things are different. I saw so many great football players your head would spin. This tourny was not really open to the public so its basically the football players, the corporate people and the volunteers (like me). Nobody bum rushes these people and asks these guys for autographs, bc the volunteers there just know better than to annoy these guys. Sometimes, I would find myself standing next to some pretty amazing people just by chance. For example, I had about a 5 minute conversation with Marcus Stroud when our carts were parked near each other. I personally drove Rick Martin (former sabre great) around all day and had some great talks. When i was grouped in with Ben, he just did not want anything to do with anyone. Amazingly stand offish. Nobody was on his junk, just casual conversation among the group, and he seemed like he was so much better than everyone. Thats what did it for me.

To add on to this. I know the people who put the tourny together with Jim. A woman who helps run the who tourny is an older woman and is very sweet. The players check in with her upon arrival. When Ben met with her, she said he was a complete a$$hole to her and had a lot of demands. Basically thought he was king $***. Also, i have a good friend who i grew up with who is a sports broadcaster for a t.v station in altoona PA. Hes in charge of covering steelers games and doing the interviews in the locker room after. He confirmed that he thinks Ben is the biggest a$$hole to walk the earth. He cant stand him.

I know these guys can have a touch of arrogance (jim kelly), but he was plain disrespectful in a couple of occasions...just dont like the guy.

Pinkerton Security

07-22-2009, 09:22 AM

Couple different things. I met him at the Jim Kelly celeb golf tourny. I can understand what it must be like to have people approach you and how annoying it can be, but at that tourny things are different. I saw so many great football players your head would spin. This tourny was not really open to the public so its basically the football players, the corporate people and the volunteers (like me). Nobody bum rushes these people and asks these guys for autographs, bc the volunteers there just know better than to annoy these guys. Sometimes, I would find myself standing next to some pretty amazing people just by chance. For example, I had about a 5 minute conversation with Marcus Stroud when our carts were parked near each other. I personally drove Rick Martin (former sabre great) around all day and had some great talks. When i was grouped in with Ben, he just did not want anything to do with anyone. Amazingly stand offish. Nobody was on his junk, just casual conversation among the group, and he seemed like he was so much better than everyone. Thats what did it for me.

To add on to this. I know the people who put the tourny together with Jim. A woman who helps run the who tourny is an older woman and is very sweet. The players check in with her upon arrival. When Ben met with her, she said he was a complete a$$hole to her and had a lot of demands. Basically thought he was king $***. Also, i have a good friend who i grew up with who is a sports broadcaster for a t.v station in altoona PA. Hes in charge of covering steelers games and doing the interviews in the locker room after. He confirmed that he thinks Ben is the biggest a$$hole to walk the earth. He cant stand him.

I know these guys can have a touch of arrogance (jim kelly), but he was plain disrespectful in a couple of occasions...just dont like the guy.

interesting. I have always liked him bc he came from a small school and whatnot, but maybe it has all gone to his head.

trapezeus

07-22-2009, 11:19 AM

FlyingDutchman

07-22-2009, 12:22 PM

i hear ya trapz, but i will say that people were quick to defend Mcintyre and discount it as B.S. Peoples initial reactions were a llittle more harsh because of the nature of the accusations, but people didnt brand him guilty by any means

Pinkerton Security

07-22-2009, 12:32 PM

Mudflap1

07-22-2009, 12:48 PM

Sounds bogus to me. Happened over a year ago. Suit is conveniently timed for when new reality show with Ben is about to begin, as well as training camp. No criminal charges for rape, only civil. Lots of details, but not much in the way of any witnesses that can confirm anything. Granted, it would be difficult to have a witness to a rape, but no witnesses that say that she got a call at the desk, maintenance was busy, and she went up to his room. No witnesses saying that she was in bad shape right after the incident and clearly shaken. No physical evidence, or eyewitnesses of physical evidence. She also was inferring that her employer (a big casino) wanted to brush it under the rug instead of do something about it, which is preposterous. Anyone can file a civil suit. It's basically legalized extortion.

Maybe the guy is a jerk who has let fame go to his head, but that doesn't mean he did it (I know you aren't saying that FD, I'm just saying).

Preacher

07-22-2009, 03:48 PM

my thought of the day which i'm sure will catch flak from a handful of you is that, it is interesting that when a black player is accused of something, fans immediately turn on them, yet when white players are accused of something we rationalize how it couldn't possibly be.

I have no idea if BR did what he's accused of. i'm just saying that it is interesting that he gets more sympathy than if a black player was going through the same thing.

that might be for some people. However for me, there is a few other things that I look at instead.

1. Does the situation make sense?

2. Is there any previous violations, issues like this or that may hint at this?

3. What is the general overall make up of the person.

With Kobe Bryant, it just didn't make sense. From the beginning, I thought it was consensual at worst. With Jerome Bettis, NOTHING made sense, and it was dropped VERY FAST, as soon as the video cameras showed him leaving the area WITHOUT the woman.

That is why I always say, "wait until the evidence comes out." Yeah, I have my thoughts. But I wasn't there, so I don't know.

Mudflap1

07-22-2009, 04:08 PM

that might be for some people. However for me, there is a few other things that I look at instead.

1. Does the situation make sense?

2. Is there any previous violations, issues like this or that may hint at this?

3. What is the general overall make up of the person.

With Kobe Bryant, it just didn't make sense. From the beginning, I thought it was consensual at worst. With Jerome Bettis, NOTHING made sense, and it was dropped VERY FAST, as soon as the video cameras showed him leaving the area WITHOUT the woman.

That is why I always say, "wait until the evidence comes out." Yeah, I have my thoughts. But I wasn't there, so I don't know.

You took the words right out of my mouth. I was going to say this reminded me of the Jerome Bettis situation. Caused a stir at first, but didn't go anywhere. We shall see.

07-22-2009, 04:44 PM

This wouldn't surprise me at all. Ben had a reputation at Miami of Ohio as a an a-hole/womanizer/date rapist.

Not saying anything's true, but I've heard the words Ben R. and rape used more then once when talking about his days at Miami.

True or not, I've never heard anything nice said about Ben R. from people that have had encounters with him.

I think Preacher made some excellent points earlier too.

07-22-2009, 06:16 PM

I doubt a multi millionaire would force this to have sex with him:

http://www.televisioninternet.com/news/pictures/Andrea-McNulty-6.jpg

I smell a liar!

djjimkelly

07-23-2009, 12:11 AM

Preacher

07-23-2009, 12:25 AM

I doubt a multi millionaire would force this to have sex with him:

http://www.televisioninternet.com/news/pictures/Andrea-McNulty-6.jpg

I smell a liar!

I am sorry, but I have to take offense.... what your saying is, this woman is too ugly to be raped. . . That just doesn't work for me.

Typ0

07-23-2009, 12:26 AM

I am sorry, but I have to take offense.... what your saying is, this woman is too ugly to be raped. . . That just doesn't work for me.

would you rape her?

Preacher

07-23-2009, 12:29 AM

would you rape her?
Excuse me...

I wouldn't rape anyone.

Maybe you should re-think your question.

Typ0

07-23-2009, 12:33 AM

Excuse me...

I wouldn't rape anyone.

Maybe you should re-think your question.

not really.

Preacher

07-23-2009, 04:51 AM

not really.

Pathetic.

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Its just not worth the conversation if you can't even see the problem in what you typed.

I understand it was probably just the way the thought came out, and not what was actually meant. But come on. To defend it? Beyond the bounds of creditibility... not as a football fan, or a Bills fan, but as a HUMAN FREAKEN BEING.

ChristopherWalken

07-23-2009, 07:02 AM

Maybe she confused him with that dolt who was caught falsely impersonating him several years ago?

Typ0

07-23-2009, 07:59 AM

Pathetic.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk224/Briannasmum_photos/Smilies/sadsmilie.gif
Its just not worth the conversation if you can't even see the problem in what you typed.

I understand it was probably just the way the thought came out, and not what was actually meant. But come on. To defend it? Beyond the bounds of creditibility... not as a football fan, or a Bills fan, but as a HUMAN FREAKEN BEING.

I wasn't defending it. Just pointing out the types of attitudes you are going to find here. I wasn't questioning whether you or I or anyone would do that to her but rather the way ignorant males would make a joke out of it. Sorry, I didn't come off very well.

Preacher

07-23-2009, 04:36 PM

I wasn't defending it. Just pointing out the types of attitudes you are going to find here. I wasn't questioning whether you or I or anyone would do that to her but rather the way ignorant males would make a joke out of it. Sorry, I didn't come off very well.

Oh....

My complete apologies then!! http://www.websitebabble.com/images/avatars/smileyThumbsUp.gif

but rather the way ignorant males would make a joke out of it

Exactly. I am not in support of today's feminism in any way shape or form. But the jokes about rape and how some people talk about it are beyond comprehension to me.

Mudflap1

07-23-2009, 04:51 PM

its so easy to get laid there is no way big ben raped anyone if an everyday chump like myself who is in great shape can get laid a few times a month a professional athlete can do better.

women who falsely accuse should have to do time when the man is acquited

There is malicious prosecution.

Basically, if she sues him and the case is proven out to be completely baseless (she maliciously filed the suit knowing it was baseless because, in this instance, she was out for money), he can go after her for malicious prosecution, which is basically monetary damages based on his pain and suffering. Considering the fact he is a famous public figure and therefore would be the subject of ridicule to his reputation that could jeapordize his employment, endorsements, etc., he could take her to the cleaners with ease. That is, if the suit is baseless.

Preacher

07-23-2009, 05:28 PM

There is malicious prosecution.

Basically, if she sues him and the case is proven out to be completely baseless (she maliciously filed the suit knowing it was baseless because, in this instance, she was out for money), he can go after her for malicious prosecution, which is basically monetary damages based on his pain and suffering. Considering the fact he is a famous public figure, he could take her to the cleaners with ease. That is, if the suit is baseless.

Which (and now I AM speaking as a Steelers fan!) I would LOVE to see him do... though not for money.

Do it for 1 dollar. Just to get a judgement against her for malicious prosecution, so that it is on the record.

Either that, or do it for millions, so that no one else will dare do the same.

Mudflap1

07-23-2009, 06:08 PM

Which (and now I AM speaking as a Steelers fan!) I would LOVE to see him do... though not for money.

Do it for 1 dollar. Just to get a judgement against her for malicious prosecution, so that it is on the record.

Either that, or do it for millions, so that no one else will dare do the same.

Or give the proceeds to charity. That's probably what I would do. If it's bogus, of course.

Preacher

07-23-2009, 06:28 PM

Or give the proceeds to charity. That's probably what I would do. If it's bogus, of course.

Talk about a REAL slap in the face, sue for millions, and give every last cent to rape crisis centers... to help those who are TRULY raped

Mudflap1

07-23-2009, 06:39 PM

Talk about a REAL slap in the face, sue for millions, and give every last cent to rape crisis centers... to help those who are TRULY raped

There you go. We've come up with the solution. Now all we have to do is get in touch with the Steelers to be their PR department for legal matters...

07-23-2009, 06:42 PM

Exactly. I am not in support of today's feminism in any way shape or form. But the jokes about rape and how some people talk about it are beyond comprehension to me.

If she was really "raped".. she should have went to the hospital immediately so they could use a rape kit on her.

Any person with a brain knows the charges will get dropped and she will settle for a multi-million dollar deal outside of court.

Mudflap1

07-23-2009, 06:51 PM

If she was really "raped".. she should have went to the hospital immediately so they could use a rape kit on her.

Any person with a brain knows the charges will get dropped and she will settle for a multi-million dollar deal outside of court.

If it's totally bogus, I would not settle if I was BR. Here's the reason:

He's single.

There is a totally different perception with single athletes as opposed to married ones. When Kobe Bryant was being sued, he wanted to settle because he was doing "something" with the girl that was the accuser, but he didn't assault her. Nevertheless, he was supposedly a happily married man with kids, so it was a big black eye on his otherwise squeaky-clean persona. Therefore, he still had the incentive to settle to get rid of the bad media attention.

With BR, he is a single guy. It's acceptable for him (to most of the public) to live the bachelor lifestyle. Therefore, if some girl accuses him of something that is completely fabricated, if I were him I would fight it to the end. He'd get his legal fees back. He'd also make an example out of people that want to "legally extort" celebrities through malicious civil suits.

However, on the other side of the coin, if he was even "with" this girl, or worse, some or all of her accusations have validity, then yes, he'll have his checkbook ready quickly with a lot of zeros.

Ingtar33

07-23-2009, 07:08 PM

i know if someone accused me of this i would fight it tooth and nail, i wouldn't even think of settling.

there is no worse way to destroy someone's reputation and livelihood then a false rape accusation, worse... it makes it HARDER for those girls who were actually assaulted to win agaisnt their attacker.

false rape accusations really harm other women almost as much (indirectly) as they harm the guy it's made against.

Preacher

07-23-2009, 10:43 PM

If she was really "raped".. she should have went to the hospital immediately so they could use a rape kit on her.

Any person with a brain knows the charges will get dropped and she will settle for a multi-million dollar deal outside of court.

The problem is, statistics tell us rape victims seldom go to the hospital.

Furthermore, there are no "charges" here. Ben R. is not being charged with rape. This is purely a civil trial. And no, I doubt very much there will be a settlement. First, because Ben stands to lose everything (concerning his name) if there is, second, it will make him a target for more cases like this (providing he is innocent) and third, the original suit is not for millions, so why settle out of court for more than what you would have to pay if you lost in court?