BILLS: No continuity where it counts — on the O-line

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  • madness
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    • Apr 2003
    • 13690

    BILLS: No continuity where it counts — on the O-line

    BILLS: No continuity where it counts — on the O-line
    After losing eight of their final ten games in 2008 to finish under .500 for a third straight season, the Buffalo Bills opted to keep coach Dick Jauron and the rest of the coaching staff, citing the benefits of continuity.
    niagara-gazette.com/Jonah Bronstein | Posted at 09:30 AM
  • Jan Reimers
    Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
    • May 2003
    • 17353

    #2
    Re: BILLS: No continuity where it counts — on the O-line

    Continuity is extremely important, particularly for an O-Line. But when that continuity includes a slug like Dockery, a malcontent like Peters, and two non-entities like Fowler and Preston, you really need to upset the continuity and add better players.
    Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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    • THATHURMANATOR
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 69112

      #3
      Re: BILLS: No continuity where it counts — on the O-line

      Seriously. They don't have continuity which is true but they have gotten rid of some scrubs and replaced them with talented players. The continuity will come. (i hope... )

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      • HHURRICANE
        Registered User
        • Mar 2005
        • 15490

        #4
        Re: BILLS: No continuity where it counts — on the O-line

        Originally posted by Jan Reimers
        Continuity is extremely important, particularly for an O-Line. But when that continuity includes a slug like Dockery, a malcontent like Peters, and two non-entities like Fowler and Preston, you really need to upset the continuity and add better players.
        Everyone knew that center was an issue. Dockery was not great but not as horrible as everyone here wants him to be. I'll even give the FO a pass on Dockery but when you lose Peters and have to move everysingle position on the line they deserve to be blasted.

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        • Jan Reimers
          Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
          • May 2003
          • 17353

          #5
          Re: BILLS: No continuity where it counts — on the O-line

          Originally posted by HHURRICANE
          Everyone knew that center was an issue. Dockery was not great but not as horrible as everyone here wants him to be. I'll even give the FO a pass on Dockery but when you lose Peters and have to move everysingle position on the line they deserve to be blasted.
          The O-Line was bad last year. Dockery was nowhere near worth what he was making, Peters didn't want to be here, and the Center position was a joke. The FO got a good young C in free agency, and two very good interior linemen in the draft. I'll give the FO credit for addressing some real needs, and will wait and see if they were successful.
          Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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          • madness
            Registered User
            • Apr 2003
            • 13690

            #6
            Re: BILLS: No continuity where it counts — on the O-line

            The FO got rid of a couple of lemons, sold one they couldn't afford and used the savings to add some value-added pieces elsewhere.

            Hard to argue with those business decisions. They question mark is: Did they invest wisely enough to increase GP? We'll only find the answers when it's time to produce.

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            • DMBcrew36
              Registered User
              • Feb 2005
              • 5096

              #7
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              Time will tell. The tackle positions are still a major concern.
              Last edited by DMBcrew36; 07-27-2009, 10:32 AM.

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              • don137
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 7720

                #8
                Re: BILLS: No continuity where it counts — on the O-line

                Talent and continuity are two keys to a successful offensive line. If you only have one of the two you will not be successful. The problem is to get continuity takes time. This O line will lack continuity at first resulting in many missed assignments. It takes time to know what the guy next to them is going to do when they need to adjust due to the rush. The question is how long will it take to gel.

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                • justasportsfan
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 71601

                  #9
                  Re: BILLS: No continuity where it counts — on the O-line

                  I wouldn't give the FO any credit other than creating this mess to begin with.
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                  • Yasgur's Farm
                    Moderator
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 7091

                    #10
                    Re: BILLS: No continuity where it counts — on the O-line

                    Originally posted by HHURRICANE
                    Everyone knew that center was an issue. Dockery was not great but not as horrible as everyone here wants him to be. I'll even give the FO a pass on Dockery but when you lose Peters and have to move everysingle position on the line they deserve to be blasted.
                    The Bills got rid of the 2 worst players in the NFL as far as sacks allowed at their respective positions. It can be argued that they got rid of 3 if you wanna look at the combined C position.

                    I'm happy with the replacements and see a lot of positives coming from the FO moves!!

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                    • Lexwhat
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 2926

                      #11
                      Re: BILLS: No continuity where it counts — on the O-line

                      Originally posted by justasportsfan
                      I wouldn't give the FO any credit other than creating this mess to begin with.


                      They stood around for years and watched this O-Line get manhandled. It took them half a season (or so) last year to put Fowler on the bench.

                      They made a step in the right direction with Wood and Levitre, but this is still far from a dominant O-Line.
                      Last edited by Lexwhat; 07-27-2009, 10:52 AM.

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                      • Jeff1220
                        H to the 12:20
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 6137

                        #12
                        Re: BILLS: No continuity where it counts — on the O-line

                        No doubt that this is the biggest question mark on the 2009 Bills. We didn't need any mathmatical formulas or calculations to determine that every starting OLman at a new position, 3 of 5 new to the team, and 2 of 5 being rookies could be really really messy.

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                        • HHURRICANE
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                          • Mar 2005
                          • 15490

                          #13
                          Re: BILLS: No continuity where it counts — on the O-line

                          Not one person would be *****ing right now if we had just signed Hangartner and kept Peters and Dockery. Not one.

                          There was nothing wrong with the right side of our line. Walker was playing fine at RT and Butler was doing well at RG. We replaced our center, Good move.

                          But you are going to tell me that getting rid of Peters and now having to dimanstle the right side because you don't have a choice is a good thing?

                          The line lacked a center that was it. A good center and this line would have been better than average.

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                          • Jeff1220
                            H to the 12:20
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 6137

                            #14
                            Re: BILLS: No continuity where it counts — on the O-line

                            Originally posted by HHURRICANE
                            Not one person would be *****ing right now if we had just signed Hangartner and kept Peters and Dockery. Not one.

                            There was nothing wrong with the right side of our line. Walker was playing fine at RT and Butler was doing well at RG. We replaced our center, Good move.

                            But you are going to tell me that getting rid of Peters and now having to dimanstle the right side because you don't have a choice is a good thing?

                            The line lacked a center that was it. A good center and this line would have been better than average.
                            I don't really agree w/HH on much, but I agree w/this completely. With the addition of Hangartner and resigning JP, this line would've seemed pretty well set.
                            I realize JP was a malcontent and all that, and maybe made his demands werevunreasonable because he didn't want to be in Buffalo anyway, but most of us would've thought a Walker-Butler-Hangartner-Dockery-Peters line to be pretty nice.

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                            • yordad
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                              • Dec 2007
                              • 11867

                              #15
                              Re: BILLS: No continuity where it counts — on the O-line

                              I would rather have our current line. Dockery sucked, and Peters didn't try as hard as he should have.
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