The Official 2009 Hall of Fame Game Thread!

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[SABURZFAN]

this is the reason Skooby left. :down:

[SquishDaFish]

I agree this was Skoobys thing. Its not the same without Skoobs

[seanbillsfan]

:beers:

[DraftBoy]

My favorite thing about preseason games is to watch the youngsters play in 2nd Quarter and beyond. With that in mind here are the players and numbers of the guys I want to watch on both teams;

Buffalo:
67 Andy Levitre OG
40 Lydell Sargeant CB
89 Shawn Nelson TE
70 Eric Wood OG
64 Ashlee Palmer LB
46 Ellis Lankster CB
54 Nic Harris LB
47 Cary Harris CB
71 Jermain McGhee DE
98 Marcus Smith DE
77 Demetrius Bell OT
16 Matt Baker QB
44 Xavier Omon RB
65 Demetrius Jones DT
53 Marcus Buggs LB

Tennessee:
19 Dominique Edison WR
94 SenDerrick Marks DT
89 Jared Cook TE
51 Gerald McRath LB
70 Tony Kropog OT
13 Dudley Guice WR
21 Javon Ringer RB
29 Ryan Mouton CB
61 Fernando Velasco OG
41 Cary Williams CB

I really like the fact that their youngsters are mainly on offense (Edison, Cook, Kropog, Guice, Ringer, Velasco) and how the majority of ours are on D. Should provide for some really good tape on how our boys look.

[Hemlepp53]

My favorite thing about preseason games is to watch the youngsters play in 2nd Quarter and beyond. With that in mind here are the players and numbers of the guys I want to watch on both teams;

Buffalo:
67 Andy Levitre OG
40 Lydell Sargeant CB
89 Shawn Nelson TE
70 Eric Wood OG
64 Ashlee Palmer LB
46 Ellis Lankster CB
54 Nic Harris LB
47 Cary Harris CB
71 Jermain McGhee DE
98 Marcus Smith DE
77 Demetrius Bell OT
16 Matt Baker QB
44 Xavier Omon RB
65 Demetrius Jones DT
53 Marcus Buggs LB

Tennessee:
19 Dominique Edison WR
94 SenDerrick Marks DT
89 Jared Cook TE
51 Gerald McRath LB
70 Tony Kropog OT
13 Dudley Guice WR
21 Javon Ringer RB
29 Ryan Mouton CB
61 Fernando Velasco OG
41 Cary Williams CB

I really like the fact that their youngsters are mainly on offense (Edison, Cook, Kropog, Guice, Ringer, Velasco) and how the majority of ours are on D. Should provide for some really good tape on how our boys look.

Good posting. Great information. Appericate the notes to refer to while watching the game. Thanks Brother.

[jamze132]

I am really interested in how our defense and O-line look throughout the entire preseason. If these two units play well this year, we should be playing meaningful ball 16-17 weeks into the season.

[The Spaz]

I don't think Marcus Smith is playing.

[DraftBoy]

I don't think Marcus Smith is playing.

Hadnt hear that news, that sucks, would make a little more sense now as to why we added the extra DE this week.

[spacecowboy]

Wow this day is going by so slooooooowwww! I need my football fix. I too am interested in how the O-line looks. Do you think we will see the expected starters in the line up a little longer since its the HOF Game?

[DraftBoy]

Wow this day is going by so slooooooowwww! I need my football fix. I too am interested in how the O-line looks. Do you think we will see the expected starters in the line up a little longer since its the HOF Game?

Jauron said 2-3 series tops except for Wood and Levitre, they'll get extended time.

[Billz_fan]

I think I will DVR both the game and WEC 42 on VS. I will watch the first half of the game live, then start WEC 42 from the begining, then watch the 2nd half of the game, maybe, :laughter:

[seanbillsfan]

:treadmill:

[mercyrule]

When is this game going to start?

[realdealryan]

Collinsworth. It starts.

[Historian]

Go Bills!

[Mad Bomber]

ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL???????

[SpillerThrills]

I love it!!! starting out the year with the white throwbacks!!!

[Patti120]

Time to Beer up!

[Mad Bomber]

Those white throwbacks look AWESOME!

[Mad Bomber]

Suddenly it's 1960.....I LOVE IT!

[Al the Bills Fan]

Love the Unis...LETS GO BILLS!!!

[Patti120]

Nice D. Good to see Schobel hustling!

[Patti120]

Crumpler is HUGE!
and can still play!

[Scumbag College]

Poz almost had a pick.

[sba]

How long has it been since we covered a TE, like 6 years?

[Preacher]

Hey all, hope you guys don't mind me coming in and watching with you guys....

Couple good plays by the Bills D so far.

[Scumbag College]

Nice run D so far, really like the penetration up front and the LBs are really cleaning up.

[Preacher]

Ya'll's run defense looks pretty good so far.

[Mad Bomber]

Run D looks good so far.

[Scumbag College]

Fake punt for a TD in the first game of the preseason????

That's a gigantic WTF!

[sba]

Way to be thoroughly embarrassed on national TV guys

[Mad Bomber]

Ummmm.....so much for special teams dominance....

[Historian]

50 seasons and they still haven't figured out how to cover a tight end...

[YardRat]

Poz was all over the place on that first series. That's a good sign.

Jesus. April's squad just got their asses handed to them.

[Scumbag College]

TO
TO
TO
TO

Enough of the fake punt nonsense, we've been waiting months to see this...

[thenry20]

Who is #21? He better be cut after the game. You don't make a fundamental mistake like that. You have contain, you DO NOT chase the end around for ANY reason!!!

[djjimkelly]

this coaching staff sucks. i know its preseason

however jauron no reaction to some guy running around and so on in the backfield.

hopefully the talent outweighs the only true weakness the bills have

the coaching staff

[Preacher]

You all DID notice the block in the back against you guys right?

And yeah, who in the world pulls out a trick play NOW?

[BAM]

Ouch. Titans' jerseys look aight though.

[hydro]

Poz definitely stood out. I like it!

[muestafa1]

Why would Tenn. run that now? Every team will be looking for it in the regular season now. Seems like they wasted a trick play...

[MikeInRoch]

Oh please. There is no such thing as a 'gigantic WTF' in the first preseason game.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Hilarious play... I love it.

[sba]

I blame Jauron

[THATHURMANATOR]

this coaching staff sucks. i know its preseason

however jauron no reaction to some guy running around and so on in the backfield.

hopefully the talent outweighs the only true weakness the bills have

the coaching staff
LOL

[BAM]

0-16

[THATHURMANATOR]

TO BABY

[MikeInRoch]

Having that trick play run against them in the pre-season is a good thing. Get the specials teams thinking in a game that doesn't matter.

[BAM]

T.O. Show! Love the no-huddle

[THATHURMANATOR]

CUT TO HE DIDN'T GET A TD

[Preacher]

WOW... that was a nice pass and catch.

You guys are playing no-huddle all season? Dang, I am interested to see how this plays out.

[hydro]

DJJIM starts already, LOL.

[BAM]

I love the no-huddle

[THATHURMANATOR]

Jauron is to blame for this drive

[THATHURMANATOR]

I am sorry guys but Jauron was to blame for that missed block...

[BAM]

1-15

[THATHURMANATOR]

Pass blocking looking good Run blocking needs work still

[BAM]

2-14

[THATHURMANATOR]

Jauron was to blame for making Edwards run that one.... I am sorry guys...

[Mr. Pink]

Blame Jauron for everything!

The offense looks in sync so far, I kinda like it!

A nice run and scramble by Edwards there.

[THATHURMANATOR]

0-16 after that run.

[MikeInRoch]

Dammit Jauron! Stop getting first downs!

[THATHURMANATOR]

By the way these jerseys RULE

[BAM]

ewww bad pass

back to 1-15

maybe 0-16 thanks to the Genesis song

[Mr. Pink]

By the way these jerseys RULE


The Titans/Oilers? I agree! :up:

[THATHURMANATOR]

I am sorry guys but Jauron was to blame for that INT...

0-16

[MikeInRoch]

It's hard to blame Edwards on that one. He was trying to over compensate for his horrible arm strength.

[Mr. Pink]

I blame Losman for that INT.

[THATHURMANATOR]

The Titans/Oilers? I agree! :up:
Those are ok too. I am not big on turquois though it is for gays.

[BAM]

By the way these jerseys RULE

1-15

[thenry20]

TE overthrew that pick badly.

On another note, our guards cannot move the D-line back on run plays. Horrible, just horrible.

[Prov401]

Hangarter is getting pushed wayyyyyyy back...

[k-oneputt]

Hangartner looks like fowler

[THATHURMANATOR]

Hangarter is getting pushed wayyyyyyy back...
I blame Jauron...

[Mr. Pink]

Levitre got mauled on that play...holy ish.

[THATHURMANATOR]

3-13

[BAM]

Bryan Scott.. probowl

[MikeInRoch]

Is the sky falling yet?

[THATHURMANATOR]

Levitre got mauled on that play...holy ish.
Jauron's Fault this coaching staff is terrible

[Al the Bills Fan]

Run D looks good so far

[thenry20]

Wow what was McKelvin thinking?

[sba]

McKelvin is getting scorched

[Patti120]

levitre got destroyed!! that's putting it nicely.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Whitner made a tackle OP... WHAT NOW?

[BAM]

Nice hit by Playoffs Whitner

[sba]

hey whtiner did something besides update his twitter

[DraftBoy]

Early thoughts:

-Poz is all over the field defensively
-ST was horrible given the fact that Griffin sold the play as a fake. You gotta at least hit the damn punter!!
-Walker has to get out and put a block on somebody if he is pulling, Lynch got stopped for a minimal gain because his fat ass wouldnt hit anybody
-Schouman had horrible run blocking on the play when VandenBosch gave lynch a lick in the backfield
-Levitre has looked badly over matched
-Edwards threw a horrible ball, but the INT for the most part is on Levitre
-WE GET NO PASS RUSH! Aaron Maybin better sign soon...

[HHURRICANE]

TE overthrew that pick badly.

On another note, our guards cannot move the D-line back on run plays. Horrible, just horrible.

That wasn't on Edwards. levitre just got exposed.

[thenry20]

Kawika was pwned on that play. Ouch

[THATHURMANATOR]

McKelvin is getting scorched
Seriously they made 1 15 yard catch against him.. CUT HIM NOW

[THATHURMANATOR]

That wasn't on Edwards. levitre just got exposed.
So Levitre will not be a good player?

[DraftBoy]

Kawika was pwned on that play. Ouch

Kawika has looked bad all game, he got swallowed up by a block twice on their first drive, but Poz made the play so it wasn't a big deal.

[Al the Bills Fan]

Pick was on Levitre...He got pushed back in a hurry right into Edwards

[BAM]

Our Buffalo would stamp out those stupid looking oil rigs

[k-oneputt]

Schobel doing his usual nothing and getting abused,

[DraftBoy]

Alge Crumpler looks like he ate the old Alge Crumpler, he has to be like 325 pounds!

[BAM]

Ewwwwwwwwwwww!

[DraftBoy]

McKelvin put his friggin head down and ran completely out of the play and into a block. Horrible horrible technique. That's rookie ish, that he shouldnt be doing anymore.

[HHURRICANE]

So Levitre will not be a good player?

I'm just stating the obvious. He looked bad in minis, he's looked bad in camp, and now he just got owned by a backup lineman. It wasn't my idea to dismantle the line and insert a rookie who isn't ready.

[muestafa1]

Schobel doing his usual nothing and getting abused,

Front four doing nothing on pass plays.

[BAM]

MAKE IT RAIN

[Mad Bomber]

D is looking pretty sucky so far...

[BAM]

Si

[THATHURMANATOR]

I'm just stating the obvious. He looked bad in minis, he's looked bad in camp, and now he just got owned by a backup lineman. It wasn't my idea to dismantle the line and insert a rookie who isn't ready.
I do hope that if another guard performs better they aren't afraid to put him in there.

[Patti120]

We look good!

[Mr. Pink]

D look putrid on that series.

[kelly2reed4six]

wow...this defense is disgusting so far...

[HHURRICANE]

Well the two issues that we knew whould burn us our glaringly obvious. No pass rush and an o-line that can't block.

I feel bad for Edwards and TO.

[thenry20]

Hate to say it but we got Stroud a year too late. We need to upgrade this position badly. Kyle Williams is starting to disappoint as well.

[billsfanone]

Bills d is getting manhandled.

[M]

I'm not going to panic. Yet.

[Billz_fan]

lets get the starters outta there they need more practice :D

[BAM]

D look putrid on that series.

CHAMPIONSHIP

[MikeInRoch]

I'm just stating the obvious. He looked bad in minis, he's looked bad in camp, and now he just got owned by a backup lineman. It wasn't my idea to dismantle the line and insert a rookie who isn't ready.

They inserted a rookie who "isn't ready" into a pre-season game. Which seems like the right place to do it.

[DraftBoy]

D is looking pretty sucky so far...

Looked solid v. the run on the first drive, this drive not so much. You can tell how early it is though because some of our players technique looks like pure crap! Tennessee's OL looks to be in mid season form unfortunately.

I know its just the preseason but can we please for the love of god see a gd blitz!

[MikeInRoch]

Well the two issues that we knew whould burn us our glaringly obvious. No pass rush and an o-line that can't block.

I feel bad for Edwards and TO.

PRE-SEASON.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Hate to say it but we got Stroud a year too late. We need to upgrade this position badly. Kyle Williams is starting to disappoint as well.
Why do you hate to say it?

[Nighthawk]

This team looks terrible and the defense has been flatout horrible.

[Al the Bills Fan]

They inserted a rookie who "isn't ready" into a pre-season game. Which seems like the right place to do it.


My thoughts exactly

[BAM]

Maybe McKelvin will run this one back. Wait.. who was that dude that returned the first one?

[DraftBoy]

Good return there by Hall, showed good vision...naturally we gotta screw that up.

[DraftBoy]

Maybe McKelvin will run this one back. Wait.. who was that dude that returned the first one?

Bruce Hall, he was on our PS last year, and is fighting Omon for the 4th RB spot.

[Mad Bomber]

Kind of reminds me of the early Bills....any good play would get called back because of a penalty lol.

[DraftBoy]

I think judging Levitre on this game, let alone 1 SERIES, is quite a bit premature.

[BAM]

There's a lot of people in this thread

[MikeInRoch]

I think judging Levitre on this game, let alone 1 SERIES, is quite a bit premature.

Well, consider the source.

[Mr. Pink]

Hopefully the interior of the line can show that they belong on the field this series.

[Mad Bomber]

There's a lot of people in this thread
Hell yeah...it's football time again!:beers:

[DraftBoy]

Kind of reminds me of the early Bills....any good play would get called back because of a penalty lol.

We gotta help out our opponent, we should get a sportsmanship award.

[Mad Bomber]

The run blocking SUCKS.

[Patti120]

somebody blew their assignment right there.

[k-oneputt]

Maybe Dickie will give them a couple of days off to rest.

[Nighthawk]

I think judging Levitre on this game, let alone 1 SERIES, is quite a bit premature.

I don't worry about the young guys in the first preseason game, but I do worry that this team does not look good at all. Dickey is back and the team is looking as bad as ever.

[BAM]

I don't hate anybody but I think I hate Fitzpatrick

[sba]

Dick Jauron's Club Med Camp continues, starters already out.

[Mr. Pink]

Fitzpatrick showing excellent field awareness!

If that guy sees serious playing time we ain't winning a game he's in.

Why shouldn't we bring Vick in again?

[Nighthawk]

Is it possible to fire your HC after one preseason game?

[billsfanone]

Fisher>Jauron

[k-oneputt]

All anyone needs to know is Jauron is still the coach, that equals losing.

[Bufftp]

Hey SBA good to cya.

Ahh can't for the real games.....

[Dr. Pepper]

wow, that was it for the starters huh? i was expecting at least 2 series.

[DraftBoy]

Thats twice now Walker's fat ass is way behind when he is pulling. He needs to run in camp more apparently.

[HHURRICANE]

They inserted a rookie who "isn't ready" into a pre-season game. Which seems like the right place to do it.

He's the starter. That is your starter out there.

[Mad Bomber]

I would call this an inauspicious start to a (pre)season...

[Historian]

I don't worry about the young guys in the first preseason game, but I do worry that this team does not look good at all. Dickey is back and the team is looking as bad as ever.

This game has been competitive for the last several years.

This one is an old fashoned ***** slapping.

[MikeInRoch]

He's the starter. That is your starter out there.

And that matters in five weeks. Not today.

[Patti120]

Was Ralph just talking about football or the civil war right there?

[BAM]

LET'S GO BACKUPS

[Mad Bomber]

Thats twice now Walker's fat ass is way behind when he is pulling. He needs to run in camp more apparently.
He runs like an old lady with her girdle around her ankles.

[thenry20]

Kawika has looked bad all game, he got swallowed up by a block twice on their first drive, but Poz made the play so it wasn't a big deal.

I didn't notice that but Alge made some catches on mismatches vs. Ellison. I know that was planned by Tenn. He is the weakest link on the LB corps so you take advantage of it.

[DraftBoy]

I would call this an inauspicious start to a (pre)season...

Id call it them stopping a mudhole in our ass, but that's just me...

[Scumbag College]

Can they extend the preseason to 12 weeks?

[BAM]

Was Ralph just talking about football or the civil war right there?

I'm pretty sure he was a LT in the battle of Gettysburg

[ServoBillieves]

Good first series for the Bills (minus the interception) T.O. is getting space, Trent has time to throw, but the D looks flat.

Not dampening my hopes for the season.

[Patti120]

He runs like an old lady with her girdle around her ankles.

we have no business running a play where LW is supposed to pull.

[DraftBoy]

He runs like an old lady with her girdle around her ankles.

He's absolutely brutal when left to block in open space. Alge Crumpler weighs about the same and moves better...

[Cleve]

Ralph Wilson looks like he has aged tremendously in the last year. How much does an owner actually participate in the operation of a team, and what sort of hours of work per week are required?

[Billz_fan]

Was Ralph just talking about football or the civil war right there?

LMAO

[BAM]

Good first series for the Bills (minus the interception) T.O. is getting space, Trent has time to throw, but the D looks flat.

Not dampening my hopes for the season.

At LEAST 4-12

[Night Train]

Our front 7 on D is getting blown out and applying no pressure whatsoever.

Thus my 5-7 win prediction with Jauron getting canned a year too late.

This Cover 2 D doesn't work here at all.

[Mad Bomber]

INT!!!!!

[DraftBoy]

There we go!! Way to be there to get the gift Leodis!

[Mr. Pink]

Vince Young might be lucky to win a job with the Titans.

Who was that to?

[Scumbag College]

Vince Young with maybe one of the worst passes in football history picked off.

[DraftBoy]

Vince Young may just lead our team back!!

[Mad Bomber]

Our front 7 on D is getting blown out and applying no pressure whatsoever.

Thus my 5-7 win prediction with Jauron getting canned a year too late.

This Cover 2 D doesn't work here at all.
WAY too early to say that.

[Billz_fan]

Vince Young might be lucky to win a job with the Titans.

Who was that to?

Why it was to Mckelvin ;)

[DraftBoy]

Vince Young might be lucky to win a job with the Titans.

Who was that to?

I think he thought his WR who went on the post was running more of a fade, because he read blitz, but didnt call out his hot read. That's the way I saw it at least.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Mcargo looked good

[DraftBoy]

Vince Young with maybe one of the worst passes in football history picked off.

I think its because he either forgot to call out the hot read or the WR didnt see the blitz and change his route. Still a brutally bad throw.

[Nighthawk]

WAY too early to say that.

Not really, this defense looks EXACTLY the same as last year and last year they were bad.

[Scumbag College]

Can the Bills trade for VY for backup QB?

[alohabillsfan]

we have a chance, now that the starters are out

[DraftBoy]

OMON!!!!

One of my favorite picks from two years ago!

[DraftBoy]

Not really, this defense looks EXACTLY the same as last year and last year they were bad.

When the games matter, Ill worry about that, not before. Too many factors to even think about that right now.

[Nighthawk]

OMON!!!!

One of my favorite picks from two years ago!

Yeah...that pick isn't looking really good up till now.

[Mr. Pink]

I think he thought his WR who went on the post was running more of a fade, because he read blitz, but didnt call out his hot read. That's the way I saw it at least.

He threw a wounded duck over there.

I'd blame Vince on not calling it out, seeing his field awareness has always been under scrutiny not his athleticism.

[DraftBoy]

Stop dancing Roscoe and just get up the field!

And what the hell was that Fitz? Short armed the hell out of that pass.

[Cleve]

Time Warner's feed of the game just went to hell - just a smear of random pixels on screen

[Nighthawk]

When the games matter, Ill worry about that, not before. Too many factors to even think about that right now.

Feel free to feel that way, but that is why this team never gets better...they NEED to worry about that NOW, not when it matters!

[Mad Bomber]

Nice run by Omon.

[DraftBoy]

He threw a wounded duck over there.

I'd blame Vince on not calling it out, seeing his field awareness has always been under scrutiny not his athleticism.

Oh no that was all VY there, you gotta call it out if you don't think the WR sees it.

[Al the Bills Fan]

Great run by Omon

[Mr. Pink]

FREE MICHAEL VICK!

[sba]

man, Fitzpatrick scares the bejesus out of me

[DraftBoy]

Yeah...that pick isn't looking really good up till now.

OMON!!!!!!!

[Al the Bills Fan]

Omon is looking good right now

[Scumbag College]

Omon with a nice run for the 1st...

I'd like to keep him around f. i think he has alot of ability

[Nighthawk]

OMON

Remember what you said, it's just the preseason. :)

[Cleve]

ahhh, just Channel 2 that's messed - I switched to 10 and it's a-ok. 2 is still frozen

[alohabillsfan]

FG?

[Mad Bomber]

Go for it.

[DraftBoy]

Remember what you said, it's just the preseason. :)


Which is meant for young players to prove themselves. Not to judge an entire defensive or offensive scheme off of.

[alohabillsfan]

thank god going for it

[Nighthawk]

Fitspatrick looks terrible...yikes...hope Trent doesn't get hurt!

[Billz_fan]

Im not sure this team is ready for no huddle, I didn't realize they were gonna go full time with it. IMO, you gotta have really good personell to do this, otherwise you are gonna be leaving your D on the field way to long during the season. Even with the 90's players we lost alot of time of possesion battles.

[Mr. Pink]

Can we just cut Fitz now?

I don't want to see him ever on the field again as a Bill.

[alohabillsfan]

never mind

[thenry20]

Haynesworth is gone and it's a bit disturbing we're not getting more a push up front on runs.

[DraftBoy]

Roscoe complete gave up on that play! He got jammed in the endzone and just stopped moving. You learn that crap when you're 8!

And did anybody else just notice that NBC went to commercial playing the soundtrack to Gangsta Paradise?? Awesome!

[MikeInRoch]

Im not sure this team is ready for no huddle, I didn't realize they were gonna go full time with it. IMO, you gotta have really good personell to do this, otherwise you are gonna be leaving your D on the field way to long during the season. Even with the 90's players we lost alot of time of possesion battles.

That's why they are doing it in the pre-season...

[Night Train]

WAY too early to say that.

I've got 3 season prior proving me out.

[alohabillsfan]

sky is falling, whens the draft!

[Mr. Pink]

Anyone still think Michael Vick wouldn't help this football team?

[DraftBoy]

I've got 3 season prior proving me out.

New DL coach, and new personnel, provide new variables.

[X-Era]

Ive been against getting Vick, Im now for it.

Fitz scares the **** out of me.

On second thought, just replace Fitz. Griese would do nicely.

[sba]

Nic Harris over Ellison please.

[Billz_fan]

That's why they are doing it in the pre-season...

Exactly, however they haven't even huddled in practice this year, soo if this doesn't work out what we just start over ?

[DraftBoy]

God Denney just showed how slow, white, and unathletic he is...

[Scumbag College]

Nic Harris looking solid

[HAMMER]

Ugggggh

[DraftBoy]

Nic Harris looks good so far.

Can we get a holding call on the OG holding the hell out of Spencer Johnson!

[Nighthawk]

Which is meant for young players to prove themselves. Not to judge an entire defensive or offensive scheme off of.

Which is incorrect, but it's preseason and it's to early to start arguing.

[alohabillsfan]

nice play by nic harris

[THATHURMANATOR]

Harris looking good!!

[DraftBoy]

Which is incorrect, but it's preseason and it's to early to start arguing.

Fair enough...week 1 work for you?

[X-Era]

How about Harris with a few nice plays!

[Nighthawk]

Nic Harris looks good so far.

Can we get a holding call on the OG holding the hell out of Spencer Johnson!

He actually made a play, which is more then I can say for Ellison in all of his career starts!

[thenry20]

If you think our #2 QB sux what does that say bout our #3? Wish we coulda gotten Garcia.

At least a couple of the cheerleaders were cute.

[X-Era]

He actually made a play, which is more then I can say for Ellison in all of his career starts!

I will admit its not completely founded, but I cant stand Ellison.

Id be happy with Nic starting day one.

[DraftBoy]

He actually made a play, which is more then I can say for Ellison in all of his career starts!

Two plays actually, he made the stop on the first play of the drive as well I believe.

[MikeInRoch]

Which is incorrect, but it's preseason and it's to early to start arguing.

There wouldn't need to be an argument if you would see the light and realize that it's actually correct.

[X-Era]

Levitre has been blown back several times. It looks like hes getting caught high on his blocks... but he also just looks smaller.

[Mad Bomber]

We're not getting ANY push.

[SeatownBillsFan21]

We need Vick I hate Fitz Bring Vick in

[DraftBoy]

Levitre has been blown back several times. It looks like hes getting caught high on his blocks... but he also just looks smaller.

He's getting absolutely no leverage and his hand placement is just BAD...

[Mad Bomber]

A first down. Yay.

[X-Era]

He's getting absolutely no leverage and his hand placement is just BAD...

By placement do you mean his hands are in too far? To me it looks like hes standing up to vertical and then getting bent back.

[DraftBoy]

I just love Omon's running style, falls forward every play, finishes runs.

[X-Era]

We need Vick I hate Fitz Bring Vick in

I seriously am thinking my issues with Vick are not as important as having a real backup. Fitz is bad.

[DraftBoy]

By placement do you mean his hands are in too far? To me it looks like hes standing up to vertical and then getting bent back.

His hands are too high when he's getting into the DT's body. The lower you can get your hands the more leverage you can get. He looks like he's getting his hands up near the shoulders, not down in the chest.

Roscoe that was sick!

[SeatownBillsFan21]

Nice move Parrish

[Mr. Pink]

Fitz can't even throw screens properly.

That's the second screen to Scoe that's been behind him.

Nice move by Scoe though.

[X-Era]

I just love Omon's running style, falls forward every play, finishes runs.
Bruce Hall isnt worth much to me, keep Omon

[SeatownBillsFan21]

Omon TD Right here

[Mad Bomber]

Nice moves by Roscoe.

[Nighthawk]

Fair enough...week 1 work for you?

Sounds good!

[DraftBoy]

Get Omon into the endzone!!

Oh and this is where we'll see if our rookie OG's are worth their salt. They have to move the big nasty's inside the 5.

[X-Era]

Yep... I want a new backup QB, yes even Vick.

[M]

Maybe it's time for Hamdan or Baker. Fitz is scaring me.

[SeatownBillsFan21]

C on Reed

[DraftBoy]

Go for it!

[X-Era]

Fitz is off target on almost every throw.

[Mr. Pink]

Why kick the FG now?

Oh yeah, Fitz sucks.

[Mad Bomber]

Yuck.

[Patti120]

I've only been paying attention to levitre after he got blown up but i haven't heard anything about Wood which is usually a good thing for linemen so i'm assuming he's holding his own.

[SeatownBillsFan21]

Dont like Fitz at all

[DraftBoy]

Im calling for it now...

BAKER BALL!!!!!!!

[Nighthawk]

There wouldn't need to be an argument if you would see the light and realize that it's actually correct.

Every year you tell me how I'm wrong, however, EVERY YEAR, this team seems to prove me right! You sure you want to start something?