For all the anti-Trent Edwards folks.

[Canadian'eh!]

Honestly.

How can you possibly judge this guy?

I'm not saying he's a franchise QB. I honestly don't know. That's the problem. I see talent there but god knows if it can ever be realized.

I mean how is he supposed to succeed when he plays for a team that does things like the last few days? eternally crappy OL, that they somehow make worse 3 days before the season? Firing the OC that should have been fired LAST year a day before that???

Has he EVER had good coaching? A good line? A good run game? more than 1 solid receiver?

I honestly think the guy has a lot of talent and CAN be a top shelf QB. But i fear he's headed down the "David Carr" road, where he is poorly coached and protected for so damn long it ruins his career.

Or worse, he finally leaves here and becomes a star on some team that has less morons running the show.

[Mr. Pink]

Re: For all the anti-Trent Edwards folks.

Yeah, how dare we judge Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, Tim Couch, Cade McNown, JP Losman, etc etc etc!!!

It was someone else's fault.

The player themselves have no accountability for their inability to be productive.

Then again, that's the new American way, when in doubt, blame someone else!

[Canadian'eh!]

Re: For all the anti-Trent Edwards folks.

I forgot. Every player should be able to overcome an entire Franchise's shortcomings and make the pro bowl. That's why Montana was so good., despite all the garbage around him.

[The last buffalo fan]

Re: For all the anti-Trent Edwards folks.

[DraftBoy]

Re: For all the anti-Trent Edwards folks.

Well based on Edwards last 6 years of play I think many people have seen enough growth (or lack thereof) to say that while Edwards shows the potential he has shown little to make anybody think he will ever be able to meet it.

[Canadian'eh!]

Re: For all the anti-Trent Edwards folks.

Well based on Edwards last 6 years of play I think many people have seen enough growth (or lack thereof) to say that while Edwards shows the potential he has shown little to make anybody think he will ever be able to meet it.

Don't you think a better Ol and some better coaching, with a hint of consistency, might make a difference though?

[sdbillsfan2]

Re: For all the anti-Trent Edwards folks.

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How can you possibly judge this guy?

I'm not saying he's a franchise QB. I honestly don't know .

Seems you've answered your own question . He's NOT a franchise QB! Absolutely correct!
After all these years of waiting, This is the best we get ? Being injury prone has nothing to do with coaching. Lack of confidence is a mental thing. Fear of failure is yet another. We've had way to many guys with potential , how about a guy with results?

[JD]

Re: For all the anti-Trent Edwards folks.

Seems you've answered your own question . He's NOT a franchise QB! Absolutely correct!
After all these years of waiting, This is the best we get ? Being injury prone has nothing to do with coaching. Lack of confidence is a mental thing. Fear of failure is yet another. We've had way to many guys with potential , how about a guy with results?

INJURY PRONE BECAUSE OF A HELMET TO HELMET HIT!?!?! Get the **** outta here!!

You put trent on a team with a competant/prepared coaching staff with a semi-decent o-line and hes in the pro bowl. You base your assumptions off these preseason games? I'm not sure if you heard Dick, but they didn't prepare for their defenses AT ALL.

[DraftBoy]

Re: For all the anti-Trent Edwards folks.

Don't you think a better Ol and some better coaching, with a hint of consistency, might make a difference though?

To keep it simple...no, not really. I am 98% convinced he is not the long term answer, and unfortunately our best current option.

[Canadian'eh!]

Re: For all the anti-Trent Edwards folks.

Seems you've answered your own question . He's NOT a franchise QB! Absolutely correct!
After all these years of waiting, This is the best we get ? Being injury prone has nothing to do with coaching. Lack of confidence is a mental thing. Fear of failure is yet another. We've had way to many guys with potential , how about a guy with results?

A bad OL can sure lead to injuries though.

And I wonder why it might be that all our guys with potential don't produce enough results..... including the current QB.

Why could that be?

hmmmmmm.

there must be a common thread here.

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If only there were some set of people charged with taking talented athletes and putting them in positions to succeed and teach them ways to fulfill their potential.....


It's a real head scratcher.

[Philagape]

Re: For all the anti-Trent Edwards folks.

A player is responsible for how he performs under any circumstances.
A bad pass is a bad pass.
A bad decision is a bad decision.
Circumstances can limit a player's upside statistically, but it's still up to the player to bring about the best-case scenario of any given play.
Preseason shouldn't count because we don't see how a player can handle the real playbook with game planning ... but Edwards better show that he can beat the 3-4 once the season begins. If he can't, he's done here.

[Canadian'eh!]

Re: For all the anti-Trent Edwards folks.

To keep it simple...no, not really. I am 98% convinced he is not the long term answer, and unfortunately our best current option.

I'm 98% sure that you might be 100% wrong, if we had a legitimate coaching staff and some consistent players around him.

Or you could be right.... but since I've only seen him as coached by Dick, with 1 WR and a terrible OL (going on 15 years of terrible Ol's).... I can't agree with you either way.

[The last buffalo fan]

Re: For all the anti-Trent Edwards folks.

Seems you've answered your own question . He's NOT a franchise QB! Absolutely correct!
After all these years of waiting, This is the best we get ? Being injury prone has nothing to do with coaching. Lack of confidence is a mental thing. Fear of failure is yet another. We've had way to many guys with potential , how about a guy with results?

Please talk to TDummy about it.

[Canadian'eh!]

Re: For all the anti-Trent Edwards folks.

A player is responsible for how he performs under any circumstances.
A bad pass is a bad pass.
A bad decision is a bad decision.
Circumstances can limit a player's upside statistically, but it's still up to the player to bring about the best-case scenario of any given play.
Preseason shouldn't count because we don't see how a player can handle the real playbook with game planning ... but Edwards better show that he can beat the 3-4 once the season begins. If he can't, he's done here.

That's just ******ed.

[DraftBoy]

Re: For all the anti-Trent Edwards folks.

I'm 98% sure that you might be 100% wrong, if we had a legitimate coaching staff and some consistent players around him.

Or you could be right.... but since I've only seen him as coached by Dick, with 1 WR and a terrible OL (going on 15 years of terrible Ol's).... I can't agree with you either way.

That's nice.

I suggest you review some tape from when he played at Stanfod, like when he lost his starting job to TC Ostrander, and see how his issues from his college days are still uncorrected. Most of those mental. Bad Decisions, Bad Throws, Footwork Issues, Misreading D's, Looking lost. All these things we see today still have been present for 6 years now. To blame three coaching regimes, and not the player seems like quite the logical leap to me. But hey there are still people who think that Ryan Leif could of been a good NFL QB in a different situation as well.