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  • BidsJr
    Registered User
    • Sep 2002
    • 2858

    Whitner has made less plays....

    In his career than Troy P. made in the first half. Bummer he got hurt he was a joy to watch.

    That is a true FS.



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    "Well I drink too much and get punched in the head by fighters for fun, so my memory isn't so great." -OpIv37
  • MassEffect218435
    Registered User
    • Apr 2009
    • 493

    #2
    Re: Whitner has made less plays....

    Whitner = a wasted pick, like most first round picks made by this team.

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    • Mr. Pink
      Peterman Sucks!
      • Mar 2006
      • 35303

      #3
      Re: Whitner has made less plays....

      Polamalu is all over the field and makes plays by himself.

      If you want further proof that a FS can make plays without help of those around him, Troy made two huge plays without anyone else helping.

      The INT there was no pass rush and tackling Chris Johnson in the backfield on the Titans first drive.

      Where Whitner was drafted he was supposed to show flashes of plays like those two.

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      • Ickybaluky
        Registered User
        • Jul 2003
        • 8884

        #4
        Re: Whitner has made less plays....

        He isn't really a "true FS". He plays on the strong side. Ryan Clark is the FS in Pittsburgh.

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        • Prov401
          President of WADL (Whitner Anti-Defamation League)
          • Aug 2008
          • 1651

          #5
          Re: Whitner has made less plays....

          Originally posted by NE39
          He isn't really a "true FS". He plays on the strong side. Ryan Clark is the FS in Pittsburgh.
          Exactly. Troy and Ed Reed are in a leauge of their own.
          Last edited by Prov401; 09-10-2009, 11:47 PM.

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          • Canadian'eh!
            Registered User
            • Mar 2004
            • 12879

            #6
            Re: Whitner has made less plays....

            1: Ed Reed
            2: Troy Polamalu
            3: Adrian Wilson
            4: Bob Sanders
































            74: Donte ****ner.
            Last edited by Canadian'eh!; 09-11-2009, 06:59 AM.

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            • Canadian'eh!
              Registered User
              • Mar 2004
              • 12879

              #7
              Re: Whitner has made less plays....

              Sean Taylor would have rounded out the top 5 .... RIP

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              • Mahdi
                Registered User
                • Mar 2004
                • 10585

                #8
                Re: Whitner has made less plays....

                Originally posted by FunTimesYaY!
                Polamalu is all over the field and makes plays by himself.

                If you want further proof that a FS can make plays without help of those around him, Troy made two huge plays without anyone else helping.

                The INT there was no pass rush and tackling Chris Johnson in the backfield on the Titans first drive.

                Where Whitner was drafted he was supposed to show flashes of plays like those two.
                Why do you think Polamalu is all over the field to begin with?

                Troy has a free pass in his defense to pretty much roam anywhere because his front 7 is so good and generate so much pressure that he doesn't have to play disciplined.

                The whole reason Pitt can play with only one safety deep is because QBs dont have time to go long so they settle for the short stuff and Troy is usually there to make the play because he just roams around.

                The tackle on Chris Johnson is typical of that. Troy was just hovering around the box and playing instinctively.

                Whitner has no choice but to play disciplined football because he knows we're not getting to the QB. If he roamed around trying to make plays it would be 6 points for them every time.

                You cannot compare what Whitner does for our defense to what Polamalu does. They have completely different roles.

                If our pass rush is good this year Whitner will do a lot more free lancing too.

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                • ddaryl
                  Everything I post is sexual inuendo
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 10714

                  #9
                  Re: Whitner has made less plays....

                  Originally posted by Masseffect218345
                  Whitner = a wasted pick, like most first round picks made by this team.
                  the game is won and lost in the trenches, so skip over a pro bowl DT and reach for a S.

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                  • SABURZFAN
                    short bus extraordinaire
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 50747

                    #10
                    Re: Whitner has made less plays....

                    Originally posted by BidsJr
                    In his career than Troy P. made in the first half. Bummer he got hurt he was a joy to watch.

                    That is a true FS.



                    Discuss.

                    has he even made one?
                    Originally posted by yordad
                    Christ, you are the queerest person in the history of Bills fanhood. I swear to god I would stomp you.

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                    • Ickybaluky
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 8884

                      #11
                      Re: Whitner has made less plays....

                      Originally posted by Mahdi
                      Why do you think Polamalu is all over the field to begin with?

                      Troy has a free pass in his defense to pretty much roam anywhere because his front 7 is so good and generate so much pressure that he doesn't have to play disciplined.

                      The whole reason Pitt can play with only one safety deep is because QBs dont have time to go long so they settle for the short stuff and Troy is usually there to make the play because he just roams around.

                      The tackle on Chris Johnson is typical of that. Troy was just hovering around the box and playing instinctively.

                      Whitner has no choice but to play disciplined football because he knows we're not getting to the QB. If he roamed around trying to make plays it would be 6 points for them every time.

                      You cannot compare what Whitner does for our defense to what Polamalu does. They have completely different roles.

                      If our pass rush is good this year Whitner will do a lot more free lancing too.
                      That's bull. Polamalu is one of the driving forces on the NFL's best defense. They aren't the same team without him. His instincts and range are why he is so good, and Whitner has not displayed those. Playing football is about a lot more than athletic ability or talent, and Polamalu has it all over Whitner when it comes to being a football player.

                      Whitner has 1 sack, 2 Ints, 2 FF and 7 passes defensed in 3 full years. That is a good couple of games for Polamalu. Whitner isn't terrible, but he doesn't make game-changing plays. He hasn't displayed the instincts or intangibles to be a game-changer. Maybe he'll start doing so at some point, but don't be putting down Polamalu because Whitner is pedestrian. Polamalu would be great on any team.
                      Last edited by Ickybaluky; 09-11-2009, 08:18 AM.

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                      • Mahdi
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 10585

                        #12
                        Re: Whitner has made less plays....

                        Originally posted by NE39
                        That's bull. Polamalu is one of the driving forces on the NFL's best defense. They aren't the same team without him. His instincts and range are why he is so good, and Whitner has not displayed those. Playing football is about a lot more than athletic ability or talent, and Polamalu has it all over Whitner when it comes to being a football player.

                        Whitner has 1 sack, 2 Ints, 2 FF and 7 passes defensed in 3 full years. That is a good couple of games for Polamalu. Whitner isn't terrible, but he doesn't make game-changing plays. He hasn't displayed the instincts or intangibles to be a game-changer. Maybe he'll start doing so at some point, but don't be putting down Polamalu because Whitner is pedestrian. Polamalu would be great on any team.
                        A. I am definitely not putting down Polamalu. Read my post properly. I agree that Polamalu is probably the best safety in the NFL. Better than Reed because of his tackling.

                        B. My point is that Polamalu has a license to roam free in his defense and allow his instincts to take over on virtually every play. Whitner on the other hand is "tasked" a certain role on any given play. He is either in the box as a run defender, or playing deep on pass downs to limit the big plays. He doesn't have the luxury of roaming the field on 3rd down following his instincts. If he did that we would get burned for big plays routinely.

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                        • Forward_Lateral
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 29897

                          #13
                          Re: Whitner has made less plays....

                          Isn't Polomalu a SS?

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                          • DMBcrew36
                            Registered User
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 5096

                            #14
                            Re: Whitner has made less plays....

                            Originally posted by Canadian'eh!
                            Sean Taylor would have rounded out the top 5 .... RIP
                            I guess you don't have to have any class to be good.

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                            • Jan Reimers
                              Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                              • May 2003
                              • 17353

                              #15
                              Re: Whitner has made less plays....

                              Fewer plays. We need to discuss the fewer and less rule.
                              Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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