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DMBcrew36
09-11-2009, 02:05 PM
Ron Jaworski was a guest on Friday's edition (http://billszone.com/fanzone/#) http://a.espncdn.com/icons/listen.png of "Mike & Mike in the Morning" to preview Monday night's game between the Buffalo Bills (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=buf) and New England Patriots (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nwe) in Gillette Stadium.

The suburban Buffalo native had some strong words about his hometown team's insistence upon using the no-huddle offense, shared some insightful observations about Tom Brady (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2330)'s knee and talked up New York Jets (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nyj) rookie Mark Sanchez (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12482).

On whether the Bills have the weapons to run the no-huddle:
"They have the weapons. I don't think they have the ability. I'm not going to knock what they're trying to do ... I guess I am. Now you're going to get me lathered up.
"You got five offensive linemen. You're starting two rookies at guards. To me, you want to have guys in the huddle and call the play so there's communication. You walk to the line of scrimmage; 'Hey, here's what we're going to do when we get this front.' You plan as you go to the line of scrimmage. Now you're in the no-huddle. Trent Edwards (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=10536) is at the line of scrimmage, calling plays. There's very little time to react, to communicate.
"What I saw out of the Buffalo Bills in the preseason was a total lack of communication offensively. Yeah, the no-huddle sounds good when you got a 10-year veteran like Jim Kelly (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=6410) and veterans like Andre Reed (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=6) and Kent Hull (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=7011) at the center position, all those wily, old veteran players, running a no-huddle offense. It's a lot easier than when you have a bunch of rookies and inexperienced guys.
"I think they're making a big mistake running the no-huddle."

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/7552/jaworski-buffalos-no-huddle-a-big-mistake

PECKERWOOD
09-11-2009, 02:19 PM
Jaworski is a ******, but he is right on this.

patmoran2006
09-11-2009, 02:19 PM
Its really hard to disagree with that, and Jaws is one of the few Buffalo 'homers' we have in the national media, which lends even more credability.

RockStar36
09-11-2009, 02:27 PM
Again, it wouldn't be a mistake if they executed it properly. Instead, Trent is going to mangle the hell out of it.

raphael120
09-11-2009, 02:39 PM
I just don't get why this staff has the idea that we can run the no huddle.

We haven't even proven we can run plays correctly with a huddle.

Commissioner
09-11-2009, 02:42 PM
Jaworski is a ******, but he is right on this.

In interviews i've seen on TV and heard on the radio the last couple months.... Jim Kelly didn't sound confident about the Bills running the no huddle this year either.

patmoran2006
09-11-2009, 02:46 PM
Im in the minority that loves the idea of the no huddle.

I'll give it a few games before I throw in the towel. (Sorry Jaws)

RockStar36
09-11-2009, 02:51 PM
I love the idea of the no huddle too. I've even written about how much I love it.

However, I loved the initial idea because I remember growing up during the days of Jim Kelly running it properly.

I then saw Trent run it in the preseason and was fairly disgusted. I still like the idea but I'm not very confident.

bigbub2352
09-11-2009, 02:52 PM
he is dead on, what skeletor is trying to do with this young Oline will blow up in our face

ddaryl
09-11-2009, 02:54 PM
He is 1000% correct here. The reason the no huddle worked in Buffalo back in the 90's is they had pretty much a solid crew of players who had played together for years and the cohesion was there.

The no huddle as a main O is for a team that has been building towards it together for a couple of years. We have a completely revamped OL.

Jaws' reasoning is dead on IMO... never the less we're going to find out soon.

Commissioner
09-11-2009, 03:19 PM
The no huddle worked better in the "Glory Days" because Jim Kelly was calling plays and not having them relayed in. I remember hearing a story about how his helmets microphone magically never worked for some reason...

The 90's Bills if i remember correctly also ran the no huddle from the K-Gun almost every play outside the redzone. Shotgun formation 1 RB, 3 WR's, 1 TE. They weren't trying to get cute with different formations and substitutions, and motions every other play.

Hopefully Van Pelt simplifies things for real.

casdhf
09-11-2009, 03:26 PM
We probably won't even run it.

Griz78
09-11-2009, 04:00 PM
He may be right but Jaws also stated Losman would be a great QB!

mush69
09-11-2009, 05:02 PM
He may be right but Jaws also stated Losman would be a great QB!


He might be in a different league!

I don't like the idea of the no huddle this year. Hangartner is going to have his hands full being the general of this group of young offensive lineman.

Meathead
09-11-2009, 06:04 PM
if edwards stops playing like a scared kitty and goes back to what he did preconcussion theyd be fine

elltrain22
09-11-2009, 06:57 PM
Jaworski is a ******, but he is right on this.

Jaws is no ******, IMO. I don't perticularily like the guy or anything, but he does analyze the game w/ a fine tooth comb. He's dead on when he alludes to the fact that w/ 2 O-line rook starters, ya need communication from play to play. I'm usually a pretty optimistic fan, in fact, for the past 3 years, I've bragged to all who had ears that this team would be a playoff team. This year is totally different. It's not a feeling I have, it's just flat out reality that we're gonna suck ***!! Our O-line is ridiculous. Not to say it doesn't have potential, but certainly not this year. Our d-line still can't pressure the qb, our lb's are inconsistent, and we have a very average secondary. I soooooooooooo hope I am wrong.

jamze132
09-12-2009, 01:04 AM
I honestly think that the no-huddle is going to overwhelm all of the new guys on the O-line and that there will be way too many miscommunications and breakdowns. Someone is seriously going to get hurt.

justasportsfan
09-12-2009, 10:26 AM
I wish we had proven coordinators. Cameron on O and Lebeau on D.

Hopefully AVP is the next McDaniels but I won't hold my breath

SquishDaFish
09-12-2009, 10:30 AM
Im with Pat on this one. I love the idea of the No Huddle and am willing to give it a few games to see if the players do well in it (I think they will) I cant wait to get this season going

The Juice Is Loose
09-12-2009, 10:41 AM
The Bills started running the no huddle in 89/90

Jimbo had 2 years nfl exp
Thurman had 1
Andre had 4
Hull had 2


Theres the Big 4...just overflowing with experience. I'm just so tired of people assuming you have to do things before you can ever do them. Its FOOTBALL. They are FOOTBALL PLAYERS. This is why Jauron wants to simplify, let them play fast knowing what they are supposed to do.

I'm not saying its going to get us a record in yards or anything but I bet they can get at least 25th which is what they got with more experience and huddles last year.

Barb
09-12-2009, 10:56 AM
jaws is actually a very good x´s and o´s guy he breaks down film understands what he sees and is in general a very good evaluator

Mad Bomber
09-12-2009, 10:58 AM
We probably won't even run it. I was thinking the same thing. Maybe they'll start off with a huddle and then switch to it? :idunno:

ddaryl
09-12-2009, 11:15 AM
The Bills started running the no huddle in 89/90

Jimbo had 2 years nfl exp
Thurman had 1
Andre had 4
Hull had 2


Don't stop there Juicy, fill in the blanks for the rest of the OL. its the OL that needs the most continuity. Hull joined the Bills in 1986, but he was Jim Kellys C in the USFL.

Jimbo 2 years NFL experience but he was tearing up the run and shoot in the USFL for years before that.

OL 1989

69 Will Wolford (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Wolford) LT drafted Bills 1986
51 Jim Ritcher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Ritcher) LG drafted Bills 1980
67 Kent Hull (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Hull) C 2 years years with Bills 1986 (Jim Kelly's C in USFL)
70 Joe Devlin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Devlin_(American_football)) RG 2nd rd pick Bills 1976
75 Howard Ballard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Ballard) RT 11th rd pick Bills 1987Seriously juicy You would make a great politician. Spin doctor the info to fit your argument. ignore the obvious facts. :spade:

There is a tremendous amount of continuity on that OL when the Bills went No Huddle in 1989. We have 4 out of 5 players that are either 1st time starters, rookies or 1st year with the team on our present OL. Butler the only starter still here and starting is playing a new postion to boot.

As for the rest of the O the majority played together for a few years before going no huddle.

ParanoidAndroid
09-12-2009, 01:01 PM
jaws is actually a very good x´s and o´s guy he breaks down film understands what he sees and is in general a very good evaluator

Except when he's evaluating QB's. He loves them all.... he thought Losman was going to be great, Ramsey, Grossman, Boller.... "this gy's going to be good"

Typ0
09-12-2009, 01:44 PM
Except when he's evaluating QB's. He loves them all.... he thought Losman was going to be great, Ramsey, Grossman, Boller.... "this gy's going to be good"

Losman is great. It's the rest of the universe that's screwed up.