At what point does the conditioning of this team come under scrutiny?

[HHURRICANE]

Every frickin year.

Both our starting and back up TE were out. Our RT, Our starting CB and kick returner.

There is an issue here and isn't bad luck.

[billsTOfan]

You always complain. You are worse than my gf.

[Throne Logic]

This has been an issue in Buffalo since Rusty Jones was driven out of town.

[Syderick]

You always complain. You are worse than my gf.

LOL

[HHURRICANE]

This has been an issue in Buffalo since Rusty Jones was driven out of town.


Thank you. The poster above you wants us to live in care bear land.

[Nighthawk]

It does seem to be an issue and I agree, it has to be more then bad luck when it happens year after year.

[elltrain22]

Every frickin year.

Both our starting and back up TE were out. Our RT, Our starting CB and kick returner.

There is an issue here and isn't bad luck.

I think you're exactly correct. Not only have injuries always been a problem, but teams always seem to have more gas than us at the end of games.

[Goobylal]

What does conditioning have to do with anything that happened today?

[yordad]

What does conditioning have to do with anything that happened today?I heard stronger lungs can protect your knee. :idunno:

[Dr. Pepper]

injuries happen in the NFL??? weird!

[Ebenezer]

Every frickin year.

Both our starting and back up TE were out. Our RT, Our starting CB and kick returner.

There is an issue here and isn't bad luck.
were you at the game??

Butler had somebody fall against the back of his legs.
Schouman's foot got caught in the turf during a tackle. (not really sure on his injury or condition)
McKelvin appeared to fall on his shoulder.
Edwards took blows to the head, twice.
Jackson ran the ball 28 times and took multiple hits to his arm.
Nelson - no clue he just disappeared.

Your statement has no validity whatsoever. Just another reason to complain.

http://actingschmacting.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/broken-record.jpg

[Goobylal]

I heard stronger lungs can protect your knee. :idunno:
Yeah, the lung bone's connected to the, knee bone. :rolleyes:

[cocamide]

This again? Do the people who start the weekly thread with this topic watch any other game? Yes, there is an issue here: When a large group of 250-300 pound men play a contact sport, some of them are going to get injured.

http://www.nfl.com/injuries

[yordad]

Yeah, the lung bone's connected to the, knee bone. :rolleyes:I'm serious. Here is the link (http://billszone.com/fanzone/showpost.php?p=2993358&postcount=5).

[Captain gameboy]

were you at the game??

Butler had somebody fall against the back of his legs.

http://actingschmacting.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/broken-record.jpg

Come on Eb.
You're an anatomy guy.

If we had two-a-days and launched blocking dummies at the back of our O-lineman's knees in the last drill of the day, Butler would be OK now.

If club Jauron included chainsaw attacks, we'd be a sure-fire playoff team.

[yordad]

If we had two-a-days and launched blocking dummies at the back of our O-lineman's knees in the last drill of the day, Butler would be OK now.
Actually, he probably would have been injured by the dummy launching drill.

[Captain gameboy]

Actually, he probably would have been injured by the dummy launching drill.

That was sarcasm that went flying by.

[psubills62]

So HH, the Saints have had injuries to two RB's. Donovan McNabb has had a lot of injuries in his career. Westbrook is getting to be injury-prone. Their starting MLB was out early in the preseason. Are these the fault of their trainers?

Yes, it's frustrating when it happens year after year. A lot of these injuries are just due to strange things that happen during the game. It's unfortunate that it seems to happen to our guys more than others...but it's not the case.

[yordad]

That was sarcasm that went flying by.I thought this was a very serious conversation. :(

[Ebenezer]

So HH, the Saints have had injuries to two RB's. Donovan McNabb has had a lot of injuries in his career. Westbrook is getting to be injury-prone. Their starting MLB was out early in the preseason. Are these the fault of their trainers?

Yes, it's frustrating when it happens year after year. A lot of these injuries are just due to strange things that happen during the game. It's unfortunate that it seems to happen to our guys more than others...but it's not the case.
i would have at least expected "see how talentless this team is...if they had more talent they wouldn't have to try so hard".

[Captain gameboy]

I thought this was a very serious conversation. :(

"Was," being the operative qualifier.

[yordad]

"Was," being the operative qualifier.OK, I've been being sarcastic this entire thread myself. But this one I honestly disagree with. At no time did I take this thread serious. :snicker:

[psubills62]

i would have at least expected "see how talentless this team is...if they had more talent they wouldn't have to try so hard".

I think I'm also going to be watching for some "why are our guys fighting for extra yards" threads that will probably come up during this season. After all, the only thing we seem to get from them are injuries and fumbles that cost us games.

[Ebenezer]

I think I'm also going to be watching for some "why are our guys fighting for extra yards" threads that will probably come up during this season. After all, the only thing we seem to get from them are injuries and fumbles that cost us games.
fighting for extra yards when the game is on the line is fantastic...fighting for extra yards when the smartest thing is to get down leads to problems.

[jonah7777]

Well havinga great strength coach makes a huge difference .. The bill's have been injured far more since Jones left..

Jones is one of the top guys in the field only a dork like Mularkey would have fired him for his "buddy"
http://www.chicagobears.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=18

[SeatownBillsFan21]

I agree this is not going to be good come down the stretch if we are still in it this team is soft.

[psubills62]

fighting for extra yards when the game is on the line is fantastic...fighting for extra yards when the smartest thing is to get down leads to problems.

Oh I agree, but I can see people wanting our players to never fight for extra yards because it either gets them hurt or makes them more fumble-prone.

[Buffalogic]

HHuricane you are the worst poster ever. Grats.

[Mr. Miyagi]

This has been an issue in Buffalo since Rusty Jones was driven out of town.
I thought Rusty Jones went to Chicago. They have injury problems too.

[alohabillsfan]

How come the front office is getting no credit??? Didn't they just have 2 TE's in last week?

[justasportsfan]

were you at the game??


he has friends.

2 dumb threads and it's only monday :sad:

[Bruce is Loose]

I heard stronger lungs can protect your knee. :idunno:

Having muscle endurance certainly does protect your knee. I blew out my knee and it happened the first week of play before I was in shape. Why? Because your muscles generally stabilize your knee. Its when your muscles start to get weak that that burden is put on your ligaments.

[Captain gameboy]

he has friends.

2 dumb threads and it's only monday :sad:

We need a "Super Double Ignore" option.

:yucky:

[methos4ever]

I don't know how two blown out knees, a bum shoulder and an ankle that got rolled on lead to conditioning issues. Heck, Posluszny's broken arm as well. How can you possibly blame freak injuries on conditioning?

How many players have we had cramp up and lead to timeouts being used to care for them? THAT is a conditioning issue. Not these.

[PECKERWOOD]

Football is about as violent as it gets and is the closest you'll see to a blood sport in the civilized world. Did you not see all the blood all over these players jerseys and arm pads?? Despite the blow out score, there were tons of bloodied Bills players out there.

[Jan Reimers]

These "Our torn ACLs, sprained ankles, separated shoulders and broken bones are due to poor conditioning" threads are amongst the dumbest I have ever read. And I've been a member here for a while, so I've read my share of dumb ones.

[Captain gameboy]

These "Our torn ACLs, sprained ankles, separated shoulders and broken bones are due to poor conditioning" threads are amongst the dumbest I have ever read. And I've been a member here for a while, so I've read my share of dumb ones.

When the Bills play pretty well, the dumb get dumber.

[PECKERWOOD]

These "Our torn ACLs, sprained ankles, separated shoulders and broken bones are due to poor conditioning" threads are amongst the dumbest I have ever read. And I've been a member here for a while, so I've read my share of dumb ones.


lol, our trainers need to start having our players do ACL & Achilles curls then this wouldn't be a problem!!

[theanswer74]

Well havinga great strength coach makes a huge difference .. The bill's have been injured far more since Jones left..

Jones is one of the top guys in the field only a dork like Mularkey would have fired him for his "buddy"
http://www.chicagobears.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=18
Do you guys even look things up before you look like a fool?

The Bears have injury problems with Rusty Jones. AND to add the guy we have now uses Rusty Jones techniques. He studied under Rusty Jones. Maybe Rusty Jones techniques are out dated? OR just maybe injuries are just bad luck, whcih is what I think.

These guys spend more than half their workouts working on their own anyways and about 3 months out of the year before the season working with their strength and conditioning coach.
http://www.nfl.com/injuries?team=CHI

[Ebenezer]

These "Our torn ACLs, sprained ankles, separated shoulders and broken bones are due to poor conditioning" threads are amongst the dumbest I have ever read. And I've been a member here for a while, so I've read my share of dumb ones.
Did anybody see that Edwards almost ran down the Tampa player (don't even ask me how to spell Pisciatelli) on the fumble at the end of the first half?? Sure, Parrish caught him but Edwards didn't embarrass himself....that is conditioning.

[guy]

Every frickin year.

Both our starting and back up TE were out. Our RT, Our starting CB and kick returner.

There is an issue here and isn't bad luck.

You're ***n jokin me right??? why dont u go follow archery or something ja.

[OpIv37]

Every frickin year.

Both our starting and back up TE were out. Our RT, Our starting CB and kick returner.

There is an issue here and isn't bad luck.


You know I'm as hard on this team as anyone and I usually agree with you, but not on this one.

It really depends on the injury. If guys are pulling and straining muscles, then it's conditioning. But both Butler and Schouman had guys roll up on their knees. I don't care what kind of physical condition you're in- if some monster football player rolls over on your leg and bends your knee the wrong way, you're in for a world of hurt. Nothing can prevent that.

Now, I didn't see the replays of the Nelson or McKelvin injuries so I can't really comment on those, but the Schouman and Butler injuries had nothing to do with a lack of conditioning.

[Captain gameboy]

Did anybody see that Edwards almost ran down the Tampa player (don't even ask me how to spell Pisciatelli) on the fumble at the end of the first half?? Sure, Parrish caught him but Edwards didn't embarrass himself....that is conditioning.

That's the thing about Trent.

He can't throw the intermediate routes, but he can run 'em!

:nod:

[ddaryl]

I agree with the consensus

Broken bones and rolled up on legs are not a conditioning issue...

[Jan Reimers]

Now, I didn't see the replays of the Nelson or McKelvin injuries so I can't really comment on those, but the Schouman and Butler injuries had nothing to do with a lack of conditioning.
Nelson and McKelvin suffered non-conditioning related shoulder and ankle injuries, respectively.

I remember very few conditioning related injuries to this team in recent years, except to lazy slobs like Peters who pay little attention to staying in shape.