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  • Mudflap1
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    • Nov 2004
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    L.A. might get a team or two by next year

    Is NFL team on fast track to L.A.?

    L.A. stadium developers make pitch to O.C. audience.

    Randy Youngman
    Columnist
    The Orange County Register
    ryoungman@ocregister.com

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    NEWPORT BEACH – Could an NFL team relocate in Southern California as soon as next season?
    John Semcken, project manager for the proposed $800 million NFL stadium in the City of Industry, looked around the ballroom at Big Canyon Country Club on Friday night and hesitated before dropping that provocative possibility into his presentation to the invitation-only audience of Orange County movers and shakers.
    Semcken paused, because he knew a few local media had infiltrated the room. Nevertheless, he continued his thought, probably because he also knew there were a few listeners capable of paying for $290,000-a-year private suites if the 75,000-seat stadium ever gets built on the proposed 600-acre site near the interchange of the 57 and 60 freeways.
    "We could have a team here as early as next year," Semcken said.
    OK, now the obligatory fine print.
    First, the litigation against the stadium developer — Majestic Realty Co., owned by billionaire Edward Roski Jr., who was also on hand Friday night — has to be settled. (The City of Walnut, and a group of Walnut residents, have filed separate lawsuits against the project, seeking a new environmental-impact study. Negotiations are continuing, with former California attorney general John Van de Kamp mediating.)
    "We're going to be done by the end of September, one way or another, with approval for the stadium," Semcken said, saying he was confident the state Senate would approve environmental waivers on the project if there isn't a settlement with litigants by Sept. 29. "Then it's a matter of which (existing NFL) team is going to come.
    "There are a lot of teams whose leases are up and a lot of teams whose revenues are down."
    Neither Semcken, nor Roski, would name which teams are on their list of possible tenants, but various published reports have included the Chargers, Raiders, Jacksonville Jaguars, Buffalo Bills, Minnesota Vikings and — uh-oh — St. Louis Rams as those possibly interested in relocating.
    But how could a team relocate as soon as 2010 if the stadium will not be ready to open until 2013?
    "Once we have an approved stadium, we can offer it to the NFL," Semcken said. "The team could move immediately, play temporarily in the Rose Bowl or play temporarily in the Coliseum ... then move into the new building in 2013 when it's completed."
    Why would a team move before the stadium is built?
    "Once a team decides it's going to move, it's going to have to move right away," Semcken said. "It won't be able to sell any tickets or sponsorships anymore."
    "A team won't announce it's going to leave," Roski added. "They'll have to move a day ahead of time."
    Remember how the Baltimore Colts moved to Indianapolis in the middle of the night in 1984? Same concept.
    Roski, a co-owner of the Lakers and Kings and the key developer of the privately financed Staples Center 10 years ago, also headed the ownership group that lost an NFL expansion team to Houston in 2001. But he is confident the NFL will steer a team to his new stadium in the City of Industry, because his proposal is no longer tied to the antiquated Coliseum.
    He has spent $12 million of his money in the planning process, and he says the league — motivated to return to the second-largest media market for the first time since the Rams and Raiders bolted in 1994 — already has invested at least $10 million conducting its studies.
    Saying there are 111/2 million residents within a 30-mile radius of the new stadium site, Semcken points out the NFL advised Roski's group to plan a stadium that would house two NFL teams at the same time.
    But the stadium project is called "Los Angeles Football Stadium" (see www.losangelesfootballstadium.com for more details). So why were Roski and Semcken in Orange County the past two weeks pitching their proposal?
    "Because we don't want people in Orange County to think of it as an L.A. stadium, especially because it's closer to Orange County," Semcken said. "The site is 14 miles from Disneyland and 22 miles from downtown Los Angeles."
    There also are a few people in Orange County with deep pockets. That might have something to do with Roski's interest, too.
    Maybe it is going to happen this time. If so, may I add my two cents: Anybody but the Rams.

    Contact the writer: ryoungman@ocregister.com
  • SABURZFAN
    short bus extraordinaire
    • Jul 2002
    • 50747

    #2
    Re: L.A. might get a team or two by next year

    the talks of a stadium being built has been going on for a couple of years. i'll believe it when i see it.
    Originally posted by yordad
    Christ, you are the queerest person in the history of Bills fanhood. I swear to god I would stomp you.

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    • HHURRICANE
      Registered User
      • Mar 2005
      • 15490

      #3
      Re: L.A. might get a team or two by next year

      You can't avoid the fact that Ralph will probably die about the same time the stadium is finished. Talk about perfect timing.

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      • Mudflap1
        Next Question!
        • Nov 2004
        • 3281

        #4
        Re: L.A. might get a team or two by next year

        Originally posted by HHURRICANE
        You can't avoid the fact that Ralph will probably die about the same time the stadium is finished. Talk about perfect timing.
        The word out here is one or two out of the Jaguars, Rams, and/or Chargers right now.

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        • SABURZFAN
          short bus extraordinaire
          • Jul 2002
          • 50747

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          Re: L.A. might get a team or two by next year

          Originally posted by HHURRICANE
          You can't avoid the fact that Ralph will probably die about the same time the stadium is finished. Talk about perfect timing.

          the Bills aren't going anywhere and 2010 is too early for any team to relocate to a place that doesn't even have the stadium built, let alone the approval to build it. it's a bunch of hogwash. like i said, these talks have been going on for a couple of years and people continue to drag their feet.
          Originally posted by yordad
          Christ, you are the queerest person in the history of Bills fanhood. I swear to god I would stomp you.

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          • SABURZFAN
            short bus extraordinaire
            • Jul 2002
            • 50747

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            Re: L.A. might get a team or two by next year

            Originally posted by Mudflap1
            The word out here is one or two out of the Jaguars, Rams, and/or Chargers right now.

            did the Chargers renew their lease at the current place?
            Originally posted by yordad
            Christ, you are the queerest person in the history of Bills fanhood. I swear to god I would stomp you.

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            • Mudflap1
              Next Question!
              • Nov 2004
              • 3281

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              Re: L.A. might get a team or two by next year

              Originally posted by SABURZFAN
              the Bills aren't going anywhere and 2010 is too early for any team to relocate to a place that doesn't even have the stadium built, let alone the approval to build it. it's a bunch of hogwash. like i said, these talks have been going on for a couple of years and people continue to drag their feet.
              They'll play in the Rose Bowl or (gasp!) the Coliseum until a new stadium is ready.

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              • camelcowboy
                Registered User
                • Mar 2005
                • 7449

                #8
                Re: L.A. might get a team or two by next year

                Jacksonville will be first then the chargers If Ralph stays alive LA is not our biggest threat.


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                • Mudflap1
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                  • Nov 2004
                  • 3281

                  #9
                  Re: L.A. might get a team or two by next year

                  Originally posted by SABURZFAN
                  did the Chargers renew their lease at the current place?
                  Nope.

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                  • Michael82
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 82328

                    #10
                    Re: L.A. might get a team or two by next year

                    I still see the Chargers moving first. They are having way too many problems in San Diego and it's not that far of a move.

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                    • Michael82
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 82328

                      #11
                      Re: L.A. might get a team or two by next year

                      Honestly though...I am so sick and tired of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Their fans aren't around. They do make the playoffs once in a while and have winning seasons, but they continue to cover up half of the stadium to sell out the games. They also still have many many blackouts. **** them! They don't deserve a team!

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                      • trapezeus
                        Legendary Zoner
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 19525

                        #12
                        Re: L.A. might get a team or two by next year

                        the owners lockout has to factor into this too. What guy would throw $1bn into a purcashe of a team and find out that he'll have no cashflow from the investment in the first year? Is there more than a handful of investors who'd take that on with no payout in 2011?

                        I think The NFL has to like their Toronto option with Buffalo. It's an newly tapped target...it raised money for the team, people came. and they have a national game this year. If it does well. i can't imagine them pulling out of that opportunity.

                        Jacksonville's problem is that it's small and people love their college football more. St Louis is similar in that they already lost a team because they didn't support it when they were the cardinals. So moving again, won't come as such a shock.They really should be the easiest of the teams to relocate. They won't alienate fans. they have a small unproven base to start with.

                        All the other teams, Chargers, Vikings, Bills have a loyal fanbase who show up to the old stadium, have the time of their lives and scream every sunday for their team to win. None of those teams fans really care for a new stadium. It's fine as it is.

                        The NFL can play this correctly or they could botch it up.

                        I just hope Ralph can outlive all this nonsense.

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                        • Mr. Pink
                          Peterman Sucks!
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 35303

                          #13
                          Re: L.A. might get a team or two by next year

                          Well unless we see a fleet of Mayflower trucks driving around One Bills Dr. we shouldn't have much to worry about on this one.

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                          • Mudflap1
                            Next Question!
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 3281

                            #14
                            Re: L.A. might get a team or two by next year

                            The Chargers are very much in play for a move. They only had about 43K in attendance yesterday. Their stadium does not meet the luxury suite needs that modern stadiums have. It wouldn't be that far of a relocation. I think it's Chargers and/or Jaguars.

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                            • Michael82
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 82328

                              #15
                              Re: L.A. might get a team or two by next year

                              I'm sorry. But **** L.A.! They don't need two ****ing teams. This is ridulous. Sure there is lots of money there, but the state is California is so damn broke and I'm sure they wouldn't be able to afford all the tax breaks for a new stadium. Plus..why the **** do they deserve two teams when they couldn't even hold onto the ones they had?

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