Official LEHL Discussion Thread!

[hydro]

Discuss...

[hydro]

Once again I sucked at getting goalies :(

[SabreEleven]

Once again I suck:(

[Dozerdog]

I'm very pleased at my draft- I just need a tough guy or two.

My lines-

LW Kovalchuck C- Spezza RW- Gaborik

LW Nash C- Briere RW Claude Giroux

LW Heatley C Dubinski RW Backes

LW Clowe C- Sundin* RW Hemskey

D- Rafalski/Gonchar
D- Corvo/Jovanoski
D- Francois Beuchamin

Goalies - Nabakov, Emery, Osgood

Sundin was cut already. Stupid auto-pick took that one. Waiver wire pick TBA


My breakdown- I should be called "The Clumpys" because I'm heavily tilted to the left wing. Kovalchuck, Nash, Heatley, and Gaborik could garner 150-200 goals if all stayed healthy.

Because I'm stocked with snipers, it allowed me to take some chances on oft injured but highly productive guys. Briere and Gaborik are huge in the risk/reward category. Giroux is another calculated gamble- he's the next "breakout rookie" and could put up 25 G 35 A and decent power play points

In goal, because of my vanilla draft position, I went with vanilla goalies. None will post big shutout figures and will have average GAA's- but they should combine for 150 starts and close to 100 wins. If Emery flops, I'm still OK with the other two.

Defense should be decent with PPPs, assists, and +/-. Don't need a lot of offense from these guys, and I might make some moves to get more PIMs back there.

Best categories- Goals, Assists, PPP, GWG, SOG, Goalie wins, Saves

Worst- GAA, Shutouts, Save %

Average- PIMS


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[Dozerdog]

BTW I'm a wheeler-dealer and will consider any trade.

But don't send me ******ed offers. Give me something I could use. I'm looking for a top 10 blue liner, a good center, will consider an upgrade in goal if you have a glut of solid goalies.

Also looking for a goon with good offensive numbers

I have potentially 3-4 of the top 6 goal scorers in the league and decent (not spectacular) goalies to offer up

[chernobylwraiths]

I looked at my draft and it does not look good. It was weird how the players were ranked IMO. I tried to switch up a bit and as a result got several goaltenders who should put up a lot of wins. I think I have a couple decent blueliners too. I will be looking to trade.

[BlackMetalNinja]

Not being able to make the draft or have a chance to pre-rank my players kind of killed me. I guess I've got some decent goalies, but it goes to crap real quick after that.

[RockStar36]

My goalies are rough after Mason, who isn't even guaranteed to put up numbers like he did last year. That worries me.

BTW: I set this league for keepers since my other two 'Lake Erie' leagues are, but we can change that if people want. I would suggest making that decision before the season starts. I'm just not sure if everyone who joined would want to keep this going. Of course, if there is only one or two people who don't, I can easily replace owners at the end of the season.

[Dr. Lecter]

I got Kaleta with my last pick.

That was awesome.

[RockStar36]

I loved getting the first pick in terms of having Ovechkin on my team, but it really screwed me up since I couldn't pick again until the 24/25 spot. At that point I had to decide whether or not to take my goalie (Miller) or hope he slides. I should've known in a Sabres fans league he would get scooped up early.

[bigbub2352]

i feel top to bottom i have a solid team,
i will consider trade offers for a top 10 forward

[Dozerdog]

I vote for "Keeper"

[hydro]

Definitely down for a keeper league.

[RockStar36]

I think I'm going to keep it that way, I just wasn't sure if everyone actually noticed that in the league settings. Like I said, if there are 2 or 3 people that don't want to keep it going, finding a replacement owner shouldn't be an issue.

[JD]

I have 4 goalies :lmao:

[RockStar36]

I have 4 goalies :lmao:

Yeah, but only one is a definite starter. The other three are fringe at best. Especially Conklin and Biron.

[JD]

Yeah, but only one is a definite starter. The other three are fringe at best. Especially Conklin and Biron.
Whose starting on the Island? Surely not Dipietro, yet. :mehmeh:

[chernobylwraiths]

Roloson?

[Myers57]

I thought I got a steal by picking up Simeon varlamov when I did, turns out Theodore is still gonna be the caps #1, at least I have Miller...

[RockStar36]

Whose starting on the Island? Surely not Dipietro, yet. :mehmeh:

The guy I drafted.

Or at least that is the way it looks right now. Roloson got more money and more years during the summer so logic would say he has to be the opening night starter. I'm sure Biron will get his games in but I don't see him playing more than 40 or so unless Roloson gets hurt or he really sucks and Biron plays extremely well.

[chernobylwraiths]

I have three starters, I'm will trade one if someone makes a decent offer. I have Price and Fleury. Obviously one will command a higher price. I need forwards, preferably wingers.

One question though, when will we be able to pick up players off waivers? I was thinking about getting some free agents, but was unable to.

[BlackMetalNinja]

I have Backstrom and Brodeur in net... Interested in trading Brodeur for a top level forward, so propose away if you have something in return.

[Dozerdog]

How about Ray Emery and Heatly for Brodear and a player to be named later?

[RockStar36]

I have three starters, I'm will trade one if someone makes a decent offer. I have Price and Fleury. Obviously one will command a higher price. I need forwards, preferably wingers.

One question though, when will we be able to pick up players off waivers? I was thinking about getting some free agents, but was unable to.

I believe everyone comes off waivers on Thursday.

You should be able to pick someone up and choose who to drop though, you just have to wait until Thursday for the waiver claim to go through. Like in real life, if someone with a higher waiver order picks up the same person they get him first.

[Dozerdog]

Yeah- waiver order is determined by draft order. Last guy drafting has top waiver priority. Once your waiver is processed, you go to the end of the line.

[Dozerdog]

There is a 3 day wait for all players- once they have been cleared they are available for immediate pickup

[chernobylwraiths]

I believe everyone comes off waivers on Thursday.

You should be able to pick someone up and choose who to drop though, you just have to wait until Thursday for the waiver claim to go through. Like in real life, if someone with a higher waiver order picks up the same person they get him first.

I know about waivers, but it was like I couldn't even try to pick a guy up. There didn't seem to be any option to put a waiver claim in.

[clumping platelets]

I'll be back next year

[RockStar36]

I know about waivers, but it was like I couldn't even try to pick a guy up. There didn't seem to be any option to put a waiver claim in.

I went to the Players tab, clicked the + icon next to the players name and it appeared as if it wasn't giving me any problems. I didn't actually add the player but it looked ok.

[chernobylwraiths]

I went to the Players tab, clicked the + icon next to the players name and it appeared as if it wasn't giving me any problems. I didn't actually add the player but it looked ok.

I don't see a plus icon next to the players name. I see under action a little flag that says something about add to watch list. If it is anything like ESPN fantasy football, under the action heading there would be a link saying (claim) to try to claim them off waivers, but like I said, nothing but a little flag. I was just wondering if anybody else saw the same thing. I know you are the commissioner so it might look ok for you.

[hydro]

I don't see a plus icon next to the players name. I see under action a little flag that says something about add to watch list. If it is anything like ESPN fantasy football, under the action heading there would be a link saying (claim) to try to claim them off waivers, but like I said, nothing but a little flag. I was just wondering if anybody else saw the same thing. I know you are the commissioner so it might look ok for you.

Are you logged into ESPN.com?

[chernobylwraiths]

Are you logged into ESPN.com?

I don't think I could see my team or the league if I was not, but I will look.

[BlackMetalNinja]

Since I'm #1 in the waiver list, I already put in my claim to pick somebody up, didn't have any issues doing so.

[chernobylwraiths]

Since I'm #1 in the waiver list, I already put in my claim to pick somebody up, didn't have any issues doing so.

I'm number 2 and I clicked around and I saw green circles with pluses show up and I couldn't click on them. It's weird.

[RockStar36]

I'm number 2 and I clicked around and I saw green circles with pluses show up and I couldn't click on them. It's weird.

Sometimes you aren't logged in, but can still see things on your team/league.

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[SabreEleven]

I got Kaleta with my last pick.

That was awesome.

I took over your team for the last pick and drafted him for you LW Jr.

[Dr. Lecter]

No ****, dickface.

[SabreEleven]

So my post is a dickface?

[chernobylwraiths]

Sometimes you aren't logged in, but can still see things on your team/league.

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Nope, was able to drop two players (one of which I accidentally dropped) and I couldn't pick anybody up.

So, I am guessing I am the only one with this problem?

[hydro]

Nope, was able to drop two players (one of which I accidentally dropped) and I couldn't pick anybody up.

So, I am guessing I am the only one with this problem?

Correct.

[RockStar36]

Chern...this is what the screen should look like. Are you able to take a screenshot if it looks differently? I don't know why it would be different just for you but if it is, I'll take care of it.

[chernobylwraiths]

How do I post the screenshot?

No, no pluses.

[chernobylwraiths]

how's this?

[hydro]

Just for the hell of it, try Internet Explorer.

[chernobylwraiths]

now pluses show up, but I can't click them. When I pass the cursor over them it says N/A

[hydro]

:rofl: Maybe it is because you are first in the waiver order?

[chernobylwraiths]

:rofl: Maybe it is because you are first in the waiver order?

BMN already made a waiver move and he was first.

I have no idea, but I was one of the last to sign up.

No big deal, it's not like Malkin or Ovechkin are on waivers.

[RockStar36]

And when you go to the roster you can move players into the starting lineup and submit them, right?

[chernobylwraiths]

yep

I can move them, drop them, I just can't pick any up.

[RockStar36]

I've contacted ESPN. I'll let you know what I find out.

[chernobylwraiths]

I've contacted ESPN. I'll let you know what I find out.

thank you

[RockStar36]

I apologize for any inconvenience or frustration this issue may be causing you or your leaguemates. I was able to access your league member's account and was unable to duplicate the issue. If he continues to have difficulties, please have him clear his cache, cookies and browser history. If this still doesn't resolve his issue, I'd suggest that he contacts us directly and sends a screenshot of what he is seeing. If necessary we can escalate this issue to a technical team and ensure that he has full access to his team when the season starts. Thank you very much for your patience with this matter.

support@espncustomercare.com

That is the email address that contacted me back.

[chernobylwraiths]

I'll see what I can do when I get home.

[RockStar36]

I'll send a copy of your screenshot to them. The sooner the better in this case and I'm able to send it now.

[chernobylwraiths]

I'll send a copy of your screenshot to them. The sooner the better in this case and I'm able to send it now.

They just contacted me. Hopefully it will be taken care of before I leave work.

[RockStar36]

They just contacted me. Hopefully it will be taken care of before I leave work.

Oh good. I'll be interested to see what the problem was. I've never had or heard of any issues with this before.

[Dr. Lecter]

My guess is that it is an user interface error.

[chernobylwraiths]

My guess is that it is an user interface error.

I have a problem with my face?! F U!!!!

[Dr. Lecter]

No, all of us have a problem with your face.

[chernobylwraiths]

No, all of us have a problem with your face.

What time am I gonna kick your ... I mean are you gonna pick me up for the opener?

[chernobylwraiths]

Well, I just got home and I don't know what they did, but they fixed it.

[RockStar36]

Who knows.

I'm glad they did. They responded super fast to my email and took care of it within a day. :bf1: ESPN.

[RockStar36]

Season starts tonight.

Let's get it on!

[hydro]

Finally doing half way decent in Fantasy Hockey.

Oh and Lecter, how does Myers for Thornton and Green sound?!

[Dr. Lecter]

Finally doing half way decent in Fantasy Hockey.

Oh and Lecter, how does Myers for Thornton and Green sound?!

Not in a keeper league!

(Even though I really, really suck in this league)

[RockStar36]

Dozer wasn't kidding, he dominates fantasy hockey.

He has a 22.5 game lead over second place in the Wales, while the last place team in the Campbell is only trailing 21 games.

Wow.

[Myers57]

I keep winning and trying to catch up with him, but every single week he wins by a bigger margin

[JD]

Steroids I tells yeah.. did he draft his goalies in the first 2 rounds? Wish I was home for the draft lmao

[SabreEleven]

He blows all his players before games to get them to perform better.

[RockStar36]

I know I'm asking this because it directly would affect/benefit me, but is anybody else open to the idea of expanding the IR spots on the rosters? I figured 2 would be enough since that is what I had in baseball and football leagues, but I didn't factor in that hockey players are put on IR all the time, even if it's for a week. Nevermind all the people I've dropped from it, I currently have 2 people on IR and another 3 that would be eligible for it so I'm just eating up roster spots right now.

Bad idea or put it to a vote?

[BlackMetalNinja]

I know I'm asking this because it directly would affect/benefit me, but is anybody else open to the idea of expanding the IR spots on the rosters? I figured 2 would be enough since that is what I had in baseball and football leagues, but I didn't factor in that hockey players are put on IR all the time, even if it's for a week. Nevermind all the people I've dropped from it, I currently have 2 people on IR and another 3 that would be eligible for it so I'm just eating up roster spots right now.

Bad idea or put it to a vote?I've had at least 3 injuries at any given time it seems, so I agree, but it would really need to be voted on by the majority.

[Dr. Lecter]

Hell yes

[hydro]

I am all for it. I have at least 3 right now.

[chernobylwraiths]

Absolutely NOT!

Injuries are a part of the game and as you said, they are usually only on for a week or so. This would just be stockpiling rosters and I'm having a hard enough time scoring points against anybody. It would just dilute the quality of players available.

JMI.

[Dr. Lecter]

Just my imagination?

[chernobylwraiths]

Just my imagination?

It could be.

:doh:

[SabreEleven]

I vote No. We set the rules at the beginning of the season and we shouldn't change them now. This isn't NASCAR.

[Myers57]

I vote no, it's part of the challenge. If you draft Tim Connolly it's the risk you take

[hydro]

Thanks for the beat down S11 :ill:

[SabreEleven]

Thanks for the beat down S11 :ill:

I'll buy you dinner and movie beforehand next time.

[SabreEleven]

You got raped, Charles.

[hydro]

You got raped, Charles.

Without lube :(

[SabreEleven]

Sorry :sorry:

[Myers57]

Damn Lecter, Miller had a bad night, but then I saw Cam Ward lol, I think I'll be ok

[RockStar36]

Hopefully I get better in this league once football season wraps up and I have a little more time. Right now I'm working on finishing above .500 before the new year. I'm also fairly certain that I'm gonna have to focus on the fourth overall playoff spot, because I'm definitely not catching the 2 ahead of me in my division.

[RockStar36]

I just missed out on the playoffs after a strong two weeks after the Olympics. Congrats to the four teams that made it.

[BlackMetalNinja]

Oh rats... I just missed out too!

[Myers57]

I just saw I edged out Dozer for the President's trophy on the final week of the season! Whoooo!!!!

[RockStar36]

LEHL is back for season 2.

Keeper deadline is set for Wednesday September 22nd @ 5PM est.

The draft will be the following Wednesday, September 29th @ 7:15PM est.

Set your keepers now if you so choose.

If anybody wants to be out or knows of a team that was inactive all season, let me know.

[hydro]

Keepers set! I forgot how good of a team I had last year. Tough call on who to keep!

[RockStar36]

Keepers set! I forgot how good of a team I had last year. Tough call on who to keep!

I had a similar problem. Besides Ovechkin, I had a tough time narrowing down my list.

[SabreEleven]

I need a link.

[RockStar36]

I need a link.

http://games.espn.go.com/fhl/leagueoffice?leagueId=1502&seasonId=2011

[SabreEleven]

http://games.espn.go.com/fhl/leagueoffice?leagueId=1502&seasonId=2011

Thanks for helping out the lazy.

[RockStar36]

Thanks for helping out the lazy.

It's what I do for a living.

[SabreEleven]

I'm so screwed on goalie's...Hiller and Huet

[Dr. Lecter]

Thanks for helping out the lazy and ******ed.


Fixed.

[Dr. Lecter]

I do not remember who was on my team except for Myers. I think I will keep him.

[SabreEleven]

Keeping a defenseman is dumb, IMO...you are thinking with your groin, not your head (the big one)

[JD]

You can keep players from last year? Thats ******ed. Can we play for money? 25 due Oct.1..25 due Feb 1st.. so 50 each, 12 teams.300 200 100 payouts

[hydro]

No money, or at least not that much...

[RockStar36]

A. Keeping Myers would be smart, but most d-men wouldn't be.

B. I wouldn't keep any goalie unless the last name is "Miller".

C. Yes, it's a keeper league. It's always been that way.

D. No, we're not playing for money for the 17th time.

[hydro]

I kept Doughty :idunno:

Was that stupid?

[RockStar36]

I kept Doughty :idunno:

Was that stupid?

Nah, he is near Myers level. I guess it depends on who you have.

I picked up Kaberle late last year as a planned keeper but I had too many good forwards that I ended up keeping.

In most keeper leagues I have a hard time keeping the max number and end up reaching. In this league I had some difficult decisions.

[chernobylwraiths]

how many do we get to keep?

[hydro]

how many do we get to keep?

5

[chernobylwraiths]

I think I will have to keep a goalie, 2 defensemen and 2 forwards. I really have a mediocre offense.

[chernobylwraiths]

and now for another stupid question, how do you pick keepers?

[hydro]

Under the "My Team" tab there is a bunch of options like Add Player, Drop Player etc... Further down there is an option for Keepers.

[Myers57]

Picked my five including *ahem* Miller...

[RockStar36]

Picked my five including *ahem* Miller...

Damn.

I was kind of hoping you'd forget.

[RockStar36]

Buffalo Pirates, Belfast Giants, California Gold Seals and Team Bubba have yet to pick their keepers.

By doing a little bit of digging around, I would assume Belfast is an inactive team. If there is another person who isn't in the league and would like to take that team over, it is a definite possibility.

[SabreEleven]

I'll pick mined today.

[SabreEleven]

Done. Could we do the draft on a weekend instead of a Wednesday night?

[Dozerdog]

Can we trade guys off our rosters before the draft? I'm deep and am willing to trade for keepers

[RockStar36]

1. Yes, the rosters don't lock until the keeper deadline, so trades are still able to be done.

2. We'd have to agree on a time. Weekends are rough now with football on Saturdays and Sundays, so the majority would have to agree on the date change.

What does everyone think about it?

[hydro]

I should be fine anytime. During the weekend with football on is probably the best time just because most people will be around.

[SabreEleven]

1. Yes, the rosters don't lock until the keeper deadline, so trades are still able to be done.

2. We'd have to agree on a time. Weekends are rough now with football on Saturdays and Sundays, so the majority would have to agree on the date change.

What does everyone think about it?

I think if you move it to a weekend just do it before the games start like 11 or 12 in the morning...

[RockStar36]

Saturday or Sunday?

I would imagine Sunday being worse because most people are getting fantasy football stuff ready, plus the Bills always play at 1 and we can't interrupt that.

[Myers57]

If its on the weekend I'm good in the evenings. Wednesday had worked out perfectly for me because thats my usual day off.

[chernobylwraiths]

Sundays are terrible for me in the mornings.

[RockStar36]

Sundays are terrible in general. There is no way I personally could do a hockey draft when I'm doing last minute football stuff.

If it moves at all, it's moving to a Saturday morning.

[JD]

Why mornings at all?

Why not Sunday night??

[RockStar36]

I would imagine Sunday night being no good because most people are doing football things during the day.

Unless we can get some kind of majority to agree on a change, I'm leaving it. Setting a draft date/time is a huge headache anymore.

[hydro]

Sunday night is fine with me. Probably the best time because people are usually around.

[Dozerdog]

Saturday morning gets my vote. I work most weekend evenings.

Friday evening works for me

[JD]

Can we post a poll?

[Dr. Lecter]

No

[SabreEleven]

No

You have NO authority here.

[Dr. Lecter]

You have NO authority here.
True.

I just like ****ing with JD.

[Dozerdog]

So what is the final say???

[RockStar36]

I'm not moving it unless there is a majority say. And so far, every single person has said something different and we can't do the draft on 7 different nights of the week.

[RockStar36]

Well, I suppose we could do an offline draft, but that isn't a bridge I really wanted to cross.

[Dozerdog]

In all fairness-an auto draft levels the playing field if the majority cant make it. I need a definate live draft time one week in advance to request the time from work

[hydro]

Currently it is Wednesday Sept 29th at 7:15pm. Doesn't look like it is changing.

[Myers57]

I agree with the Wednesday time.

[BlackMetalNinja]

I definitely can't make it on Wednesday at that time. That's my wife's late evening at work, so I'll have my daughter and she doesn't generally go to bed until 8.

[RockStar36]

Ok, for those who haven't answered, thoughts on the draft time?

I suppose if the over half of the teams can't make the time, we can do an auto-draft, although I HATE those types of drafts.

[hydro]

Ok, for those who haven't answered, thoughts on the draft time?

I suppose if the over half of the teams can't make the time, we can do an auto-draft, although I HATE those types of drafts.

Yeah that would really suck.

[SabreEleven]

I think you should do a quick poll and what time and date wins is when we draft..the rest will have to be on auto-draft...just my 2 cents.

[RockStar36]

There is a poll now on the main league page. Votes are encouraged.

[RockStar36]

8/12 people voted and enough voted for it to stay on Wednesday, and so it will. Sorry for those who can't make it. It's not my intention to exclude people on purpose.

[Dr. Lecter]

I voted. I wanted to change my keepers too but forgot

[RockStar36]

I voted. I wanted to change my keepers too but forgot

I'll fix them for you. PM me the changes.

[Dr. Lecter]

I'll get you tonight when I get home. I have something there.

[JD]

Time?

[JD]

True.

I just like ****ing with JD.
I know where you live Mr. Tonawanda

[hydro]

Time?

Post #135 should help you.

[BlackMetalNinja]

Guess I miss this yet again this year... and pretty much eliminate any chance of doing anything before it gets started.

[bigbub2352]

i like saturday or sunday morning or night

[hydro]

i like saturday or sunday morning or night

It is tomorrow night at 7:15pm.

[chernobylwraiths]

I know where you live Mr. Tonawanda

Shows how much you know. It's Mr NORTH Tonawanda!

[bigbub2352]

It is tomorrow night at 7:15pm.

ok no prob

[bigbub2352]

Shows how much you know. It's Mr NORTH Tonawanda!
my wife is from NT

[chernobylwraiths]

my wife is from NT

And you married her anyway?

[SabreEleven]

I didn't know the first 5 rounds we were picking the guys we kept. I got ****ed on goalies...Cam Ward is my #1 :ill:

[hydro]

:rofl:

Totally forgot about this, even after posting it twice. Surprised it was done so fast. Like who I got though.

[chernobylwraiths]

:(
I forgot too.

[bigbub2352]

And you married her anyway?
i converted her to south cheektavegas

[Dr. Lecter]

:(
I forgot too.
:shortbus:

[SabreEleven]

i converted her to south cheektavegas

So now she has less teeth.

[Dr. Lecter]

Better than Depew.

If that happened he would have to marry his own sister or first cousin.

[JD]

I was at work but I'd say my team is stacked.

[RockStar36]

That was the fastest draft EVER.

I'd say I am going to win, but Dozer somehow owns fantasy hockey.

[bigbub2352]

she has all her teeth it's the 3rd nipple i'm concerned about

[Dozerdog]

That was the fastest draft EVER.

I'd say I am going to win, but Dozer somehow owns fantasy hockey.

:D

[Dozerdog]

Anybody want to deal ? I'm looking for a decent center- Lecavillier/Spezza type.

Not a first line guy- but someone who is a decent 2 or 3

[SabreEleven]

I need a goalie.

[bigbub2352]

Anybody want to deal ? I'm looking for a decent center- Lecavillier/Spezza type.

Not a first line guy- but someone who is a decent 2 or 3

hit me up with an offer

[bigbub2352]

I need a goalie.

hit me up with an offer

i want a forward

[JD]

ATTENTION DONT ****ING DEAL WITH DOZER, HE IS THE ENEMY