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  • JD
    Sabres Zone
    • Sep 2003
    • 13752

    Bring the Bills BACK to Buffalo!

    What are your thoughts on this?



    Revitalization of Brownfields: While Hickory Woods was a clear indication that neighborhoods cannot be built on top of old brownfields, perhaps a new approach can be taken by building a stadium in these abandoned lots. This could be a great example for other Rust Belt cities as to what to do with these contaminated sites.

    Waterfront Development: The Buffalo River is largely forgotten in our region, but it truly is a gem that should be used and included in waterfront development. The river has greatly improved in recent years (thanks to efforts by Buffalo Niagara Riverkeeper, the South Buffalo Green Team, Erie County, and several other groups), and would be a beautiful site for a new stadium.

    Preservation of Grain Elevators: By building a stadium on the peninsula located across the river from the foot of Smith Street, Buffalo would have a unique opportunity to preserve its past while blending it with the future. The old Concrete Central grain elevator currently dominates this portion of the Buffalo River, but a new stadium could be built using the elevator as its western wall. No other stadium in the NFL or even the world would look as unique as this one.

    Opportunity for Light Rail Transport: By placing a stadium on this peninsula, not only would there be ample space for parking and even a field house, but there is the possibility of incorporating a light rail system into the stadium. This section of South Buffalo has plenty of railway lines, and with federal money available for ground transportation, a light rail system could be installed and utilized to its full potential. A light rail system would also eliminate parking costs for those fans that don't like to tailgate, alleviate traffic congestion, and would cut down on drunk driving. For those fans who do decide to drive to the games, pedestrian bridges across the river could connect the parking lots with the stadium, adding to the grandeur of a new field.

    Plenty of "Green" Opportunities: In recent years, the Buffalo Niagara region has become one of the leaders in the "green" economy, so it's only fitting that a brand new venue should be a green one, and not just on the field. By placing a stadium along the Buffalo River, there are plenty of opportunities to utilize technologies such as geothermal heating and cooling. In addition, the stadium could be one of the first to use solar panels to help power the stadium (since Buffalo is the sun capital of the Northeast).

    Put the Buffalo back in the Bills: This may be purely aesthetic, but shouldn't the Buffalo Bills be in the City of Buffalo? A new stadium in this location would put the Bills back where they belong (and won two championships, I might add). At the same time, the new location would make travel easier on people traveling from the Northtowns, the city, and Canada. Don't worry though, you Southtowns fans, the drive up to Buffalo isn't as bad as you think.
    “You hold a players only meeting and get each guy to stand up and say what he can bring to the table... and if he doesn't, you punch him in the face.” ~~ Harry Neale, on how to fix the Sabres season.
  • DrGraves
    Registered User
    • Mar 2008
    • 2693

    #2
    Re: Bring the Bills BACK to Buffalo!

    pretty cool

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    • DrGraves
      Registered User
      • Mar 2008
      • 2693

      #3
      Re: Bring the Bills BACK to Buffalo!

      where would you drink and tailgate though?!?!

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      • ddaryl
        Everything I post is sexual inuendo
        • Jan 2005
        • 10714

        #4
        Re: Bring the Bills BACK to Buffalo!

        the traffic would be horrific

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        • Michael82
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 82330

          #5
          Re: Bring the Bills BACK to Buffalo!

          Originally posted by ddaryl
          the traffic would be horrific
          Exactly! Everyone who thinks Downtown Buffalo wouldn't be a nightmare with traffic is fooling themselves...It's fine where it is right now. We don't need a new stadium and can't afford one as of now.

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          • trapezeus
            Legendary Zoner
            • Oct 2004
            • 19525

            #6
            Re: Bring the Bills BACK to Buffalo!

            Originally posted by DrGraves
            where would you drink and tailgate though?!?!
            Pull your barge up to the river side.

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            • trapezeus
              Legendary Zoner
              • Oct 2004
              • 19525

              #7
              Re: Bring the Bills BACK to Buffalo!

              i'm on record for saying, there is no money or will to get a new stadium.

              1. the county is broke
              2. the owner isnt' going to do this himself as he has no debt and derives his profit from not paying down burdening debt.
              3. The NFL knows that by building a more suite based stadium, there won't be anyone to fill those suites so its a waste of their money.

              That pretty much kills a new stadium if the governmetn passes, the owner passes, and the NFL passes.

              The current stadium works. the upgrades work. It is unfortunate that they put it in OP in the first place...but we have to work with what we've been given.

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              • JD
                Sabres Zone
                • Sep 2003
                • 13752

                #8
                Re: Bring the Bills BACK to Buffalo!

                A light rail train system would solve the problem Mikey, and the above image is about 5 minutes from the heart of downtown.
                “You hold a players only meeting and get each guy to stand up and say what he can bring to the table... and if he doesn't, you punch him in the face.” ~~ Harry Neale, on how to fix the Sabres season.

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                • Michael82
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 82330

                  #9
                  Re: Bring the Bills BACK to Buffalo!

                  Originally posted by trapezeus
                  i'm on record for saying, there is no money or will to get a new stadium.

                  1. the county is broke
                  2. the owner isnt' going to do this himself as he has no debt and derives his profit from not paying down burdening debt.
                  3. The NFL knows that by building a more suite based stadium, there won't be anyone to fill those suites so its a waste of their money.

                  That pretty much kills a new stadium if the governmetn passes, the owner passes, and the NFL passes.

                  The current stadium works. the upgrades work. It is unfortunate that they put it in OP in the first place...but we have to work with what we've been given.
                  A lot of stadiums are in the suburbs. I don't see Orchard Park a bad place for it. Actually, I think it's perfect where it is.


                  The only way we get a new stadium is if Ralph passes and a rich businessman buys the team and chooses to put a big chunk of cash down for a new stadium. But that is many years away. The Ralph is fine.

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                  • Michael82
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 82330

                    #10
                    Re: Bring the Bills BACK to Buffalo!

                    Originally posted by JD SabreFan
                    A light rail train system would solve the problem Mikey, and the above image is about 5 minutes from the heart of downtown.
                    How would that solve the problem? What happens to all the out of towners? Now they have to pay the money to take a train to and from the stadium? That makes no sense. Plus a stadium downtown ruins the whole Buffalo atmosphere as it would kill tailgating.

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                    • THATHURMANATOR
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 69112

                      #11
                      Re: Bring the Bills BACK to Buffalo!

                      Mike it would be an amazing spot for a stadium. The traffice couldn't be any worse than it was Sunday night... I love the Ralph and hell it is 5 minutes from my house but anything to keep the Bills.

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                      • JD
                        Sabres Zone
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 13752

                        #12
                        Re: Bring the Bills BACK to Buffalo!

                        Originally posted by Mikey82
                        How would that solve the problem? What happens to all the out of towners? Now they have to pay the money to take a train to and from the stadium? That makes no sense. Plus a stadium downtown ruins the whole Buffalo atmosphere as it would kill tailgating.
                        Taking a train would save people money when you compare it to parking rates. Again, Mikey.. the above picture is not in the heart of downtown Buffalo. There would obviously be surface parking lots for tailgating.

                        Its a joke that the Ralph is only used for high school football during the summer. There is so much $$$ to be made. With a new stadium being build, there would be a retractable roof for events and maybe even to host a super bowl one day. Obviously, the roof would be opened throughout the regular season because what true Buffalonian doesn't like freezing their dick off in -5 degree wind chills?
                        “You hold a players only meeting and get each guy to stand up and say what he can bring to the table... and if he doesn't, you punch him in the face.” ~~ Harry Neale, on how to fix the Sabres season.

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                        • trapezeus
                          Legendary Zoner
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 19525

                          #13
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                          mikey, the urban sprawl that effects most of America is trying to be reversed. And by doing so, the governments are trying to revitalize the city center idea. Had Buffalo elected not to rip up Humboldt parkway for the kenzington highway and put UB Amherst campus in downtown, and the Stadium downtown, you'd have kept a vital city center with people living there (more attributed to UB located downtown than the stadium). But you'd get more restaurants and more shops. You'd get a more efficient public transportation. that in turn would hopefully bring more businesses happy to jump on a very good university churning out bright kids.

                          The idea of selfmade tailgating could continue...There are still plenty of open spaces. and could be factored into the whole thing.

                          My issue now is that i just don't see the light rail or new stadium as helping anything. it's trying to reverse something without taking into account what we already have. We already have a dead light rail system. We already have a stadium. To revitalize the city, the stadium isn't the answer. it'll just be another burden.

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                          • Michael82
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 82330

                            #14
                            Re: Bring the Bills BACK to Buffalo!

                            Originally posted by trapezeus
                            mikey, the urban sprawl that effects most of America is trying to be reversed. And by doing so, the governments are trying to revitalize the city center idea. Had Buffalo elected not to rip up Humboldt parkway for the kenzington highway and put UB Amherst campus in downtown, and the Stadium downtown, you'd have kept a vital city center with people living there (more attributed to UB located downtown than the stadium). But you'd get more restaurants and more shops. You'd get a more efficient public transportation. that in turn would hopefully bring more businesses happy to jump on a very good university churning out bright kids.

                            The idea of selfmade tailgating could continue...There are still plenty of open spaces. and could be factored into the whole thing.

                            My issue now is that i just don't see the light rail or new stadium as helping anything. it's trying to reverse something without taking into account what we already have. We already have a dead light rail system. We already have a stadium. To revitalize the city, the stadium isn't the answer. it'll just be another burden.
                            Good point. A lot of cities are looking to do that, Rochester included. Hell...they are talking about ripping up Broad Street and fill up the old aqueduct with water as a way of bringing tourism back too. They are also knocking down buildings left and right and building lots of housing.

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                            • BuffaloRanger
                              WORK HARD. PLAY HARD. LIVE HARD.
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 2246

                              #15
                              Re: Bring the Bills BACK to Buffalo!

                              The debt free stadium is one of the positives working in favor of keeping the Bills in Buffalo after Ralph passes. Though it's possible that a prospective owner could attempt to to extort the taxpayers to foot the bill almost entirely for a new stadium. So although it is a cool picture it is akin to building a 90 story skyscraper downtown because it "will bring in alot of companies". But it really wouldn't.

                              If it's a civic monument you're after (isn't that what stadiums are?) spend half that money for an amazing signature bridge. Spend the rest knocking down a huge swath of the slums (foreclosures, buy out residents) and replace it with a large, people friendly, "Central Park" with a manmade lake and amazing sculptures/monuments etc.
                              Last edited by BuffaloRanger; 09-22-2009, 04:26 PM.
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