This is the help that Jauron has been getting!

**The Juice Is Loose** · 10-09-2009, 09:33 AM

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i suppose your point is that he has no talent.

i don't buy it. he has as much say as anybody as to who we pick and why.

the head coach wants a guy i doubt they go a totally different direction. you can't tell me he's not the one who wants all the defensive backs.

jauron is just as much to blame. i blame the scouts and all that too, but jauron has say over that and could've changed it if he wanted to.

**HHURRICANE** · 10-09-2009, 09:34 AM

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Comments:

2009

Maybin - non-existant
Wood - playing well
Jarius Byrd - not so hot
Levitre - rookie player
Nelson - hurt
Harris - not seeing the field
Cary Harris -cut
Lankster - ouch

2008

McKelvin - done for the year
Hardy - not on the field
Ellis - a joke so far
Corner - playing well
Fine - another slow sucky TE
Omon - 3rd down back
Bell - could be good
Johnson - not good enough to play

2007

Whitner - starter I guess
McCrago- can't even get on the field
yobouty - missing his mother
Williams - good player
Butler - done for the year
Ellsion - sshouldn't be a starter

2008

Parrish - trying desperately to get rid of him

**bigbub2352** · 10-09-2009, 09:42 AM

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Drafting and mismangement of the roster has plagued the Bills since Modrak and Guy, TOm D and Marv and now Russ have led the war room
THink about it we got nothing from 2005 those are the players suppossed to be in there prime right now
2006- was a huge mismangement of taking players whitner and mccargo over ngata and mangold when we had needs on both Dline and Oline

those moves hurt us for yrs to come
also throw in ROn Guys job of free agents started in another thread and we got what we see ever sunday a bunch of cheap free agents and guys who shouldnt have been drafted by us playing in schemes they dont fit in
chalk it all up as a long learning experiance on how not to build a playoff contending team
what a joke

**justasportsfan** · 10-09-2009, 09:45 AM

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bring in a coach who knows what he's doing and you will see we have talent.

**HHURRICANE** · 10-09-2009, 09:55 AM

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5 years of drafting and who on that roster is a game changer?

**TacklingDummy** · 10-09-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by HHURRICANE

5 years of drafting and who on that roster is a game changer?

Go back another 5 years, those drafts sucked also.

It's easy to see why the Bills continue to blow.

Bring in a real GM.

**madness** · 10-09-2009, 10:22 AM

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The talent on this roster is nowhere close to playoff talent. I said in the beginning of the season this may be the most talent Jauron had on both sides of the ball in his career and we've seen how paper thin that has been with all the injuries.

Even though he finally has a little more pull to build the roster this past season or two, I'm afraid it's a little too late. The defense in Chicago that dominated after he left was his defense and it would have been nice to see something similar in Buffalo.

Either way, the new coaching staff will inherit a nice young core group of players.

**HHURRICANE** · 10-09-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by madness

The talent on this roster is nowhere close to playoff talent. I said in the beginning of the season this may be the most talent Jauron had on both sides of the ball in his career and we've seen how paper thin that has been with all the injuries.

Even though he finally has a little more pull to build the roster this past season or two, I'm afraid it's a little too late. The defense in Chicago that dominated after he left was his defense and it would have been nice to see something similar in Buffalo.

Either way, the new coaching staff will inherit a nice young core group of players.

What young core is he inheriting because I don't see it based on the drafts I just looked at?

Wood looks like about it.

**HHURRICANE** · 10-09-2009, 10:28 AM

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Based on contribution for this coming Sunday the 2008 draft looks pretty useless.

**trapezeus** · 10-09-2009, 10:33 AM

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this is similiar to another debate we had on QBs. I think the drafting sucks and is a major hinderance for the coach to succeed. but i also believe the coach is bad enough that it doesn't matter who you had on this team.

Jauron couldn't coach an all star NFL team versus a powderpuff team. He truly is a bad in game decision maker. He got these teams to 7-9 despite himself, not because of himself.

**justasportsfan** · 10-09-2009, 10:37 AM

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you can have an all star cast but it won't mean anything when you have a horrible gameplan.

The bills got beaten but Hostetler and the giants. You can even say the same thing with bills vs. redskins. We were outcoached.

**trapezeus** · 10-09-2009, 10:44 AM

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it is pretty stunning though that 2005 has 0 full time help. that has to be a very unique situation.

the bills drafts would be ok, if we already had bonafide players in those positions and needed them for depth. Like Kyle williams is a good player....but he's not a starter. He's mike lodish. Lodish was great because there were a handful of better players infront of him. he made the drop off less killer. Butler was looking good this yera, but again, if we had dominant tackles and used him as a back up, that'd be great. the team needs to find some stars in key positions in the draft. and we aren't doing that at all.

**justasportsfan** · 10-09-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by trapezeus

the team needs to find some stars in key positions in the draft. and we aren't doing that at all.

So you expect college players to play like stars from the start?

**HHURRICANE** · 10-09-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by trapezeus

Jauron couldn't coach an all star NFL team versus a powderpuff team. He truly is a bad in game decision maker. He got these teams to 7-9 despite himself, not because of himself.

I would make the case that another coach might have had 4-6 winning seasons here. For the games Jauron has blown I've seen games that he won us as well. The denver game on the road, which was a must win for Denver comes to mind.

I'm not saying that we don't need a coaching change but the problem isn't just, coach, or QB. It starts at the top.

You draft crappy, you get rid of starting LTs, Winfield, Pat Williams, and Fletcher are all playing at high levels. The FO should be fired first.

Hey Dick we just replace Peters Dockery, Preston, Butler and Walker

with Bell, Levitre, Hangartner, Wood, Scott. Go get them Tiger!!!!!!!!!