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http://blogblitz.nfl.com/buffalo-bills/entry/bills_week_6_quick_reading
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T-Long
10-14-2009, 09:07 PM
Add mine to the list too!
http://blogblitz.nfl.com/buffalo-bills/entry/bills_week_6_quick_reading
Demon
10-14-2009, 09:12 PM
wow, that's awesome.
Chewytie
10-14-2009, 09:18 PM
All we need is 4 letter network coverage on NFL Live or the like.
homeslice5484
10-14-2009, 09:22 PM
did u see brian moorman came to jaurons defense on the billboard?
More National Media Outlets ADDED!
Moorman and his blinders..lol
THE END OF ALL DAYS
10-14-2009, 10:34 PM
did u see brian moorman came to jaurons defense on the billboard?
punter
Hemlepp53
10-14-2009, 10:44 PM
punter
Best all around player on the team.. he has more Pr Bowls playing for the Bills than anyone on the current roster I beleive... God Bless "The Punter"
I remember he took such a nasty shot in the Pro Bowl... Thought he was dead... Anyone else remember that ...
Dying_-2-_Live
10-14-2009, 10:58 PM
Best all around player on the team.. he has more Pr Bowls playing for the Bills than anyone on the current roster I beleive... God Bless "The Punter"
I remember he took such a nasty shot in the Pro Bowl... Thought he was dead... Anyone else remember that ...
I...FELT THAT HIT :bullseye:
Novacane
10-14-2009, 11:35 PM
Moorman said. “The important thing is that inside these walls, (Jauron) has our support. We believe in him.”
:rolleyes: Makes me want to smack Moorman. I don't expect the players to bad mouth the coach publically but give me a break . Just say you don't agree with the sign or say nothing. You look like an idiot saying you believe in a proven loser. Losing has become such a way off life at 1 Bills drive that they all just accept it. It totally pisses me off.
Sure, why not support a coach who demands nothing and gives everyone an easy paycheck including himself.
more cowbell
10-14-2009, 11:45 PM
the power of mass media....god i love it
yordad
10-14-2009, 11:51 PM
Why would that sign not have Brandon's name on it?
BoyILuvLoznStupidly
10-15-2009, 12:05 AM
Why would that sign not have Brandon's name on it?
I think most think he can stay and just do marketing and that's it. He would have nothing to do with the football operations.
paladin warrior
10-15-2009, 01:20 AM
they should put the new T-Shirt said "Dont be a cheap Ralph"
Buffalogic
10-15-2009, 02:38 AM
Wow that's quite a list. This will make it to television programs shortly.
I think most think he can stay and just do marketing and that's it. He would have nothing to do with the football operations.
he's running the football operations.
Forward_Lateral
10-15-2009, 06:03 AM
The players sure aren't playing like they respect Jauron and want him to keep his job. In fact, they are playing the exact opposite of that.
I love this - I think publicly shaming Ralph is the only way to reach him.
I bet he's FURIOUS about this - probably calling us ungrateful or something too.
more links added :jig:
Let me know if anyone sees this on big news stations or ESPN/TSN
mybills
10-15-2009, 08:52 AM
That kid is only 18? Kudos for the mature interview. :bf1:
ddaryl
10-15-2009, 08:59 AM
LOVE IT
I'm super dissapointed in those who felt this idea was not a good one.
We are applying pressure to Ralph and now the media is running it.. If we did nothing the media would have run the usual stories of fan discontent.. but this one has grabbed major attention, and you can bet more will follow up wanting to gear Ralphs response... From there its up to the fans to keep sending messages to Ralphie
A better response then I would have thought...
We want a winner and we're tired of Ralphs crapola
Jan Reimers
10-15-2009, 09:32 AM
If national publicity is the goal, we've got it, good or bad. If forcing Ralph to make changes is the goal, I think the billboard supporters are seriously deluded.
If national publicity is the goal, we've got it, good or bad. If forcing Ralph to make changes is the goal, I think the billboard supporters are seriously deluded.
Negative, negative, negative... and you've yet to suggest an idea that we could implement NOW
ddaryl
10-15-2009, 10:15 AM
If national publicity is the goal, we've got it, good or bad. If forcing Ralph to make changes is the goal, I think the billboard supporters are seriously deluded.
You haven't come up with one plan to force Ralph to make changes... I have and I've supported this one. I've tried to ralley some message boards to start boycotting going into the games on Sunday. Goto the game, tailgate but do not enter. Protest outside and carry signs and making noise demanding changes.. No different then the billboard, but the billboard actually happened, It is almost impossible to get 70K fans to actually mass together... which is the real problem, and it comes from attitudes like this.. ""Oh I'm not going ot stay outside I bought my tickets and win or lose I still enjoy my Bills"" and that is a problem for Bills fans who want to win the big one..... You have to make very strong statements of dissastifaction otherwise what ???
If you joined the billboard crowd and more people joined it can be the start of something.. and what do you have to lose here Jan... the Bills.. Ralph has played that card. if anything we have 2- 5 years to right the ship and have a run after that its pretty much over with anyways. So either jump on board or remain in your passive do nothing and just complain about the Bills mode... We all have been complaining for years and then some.. where has it gotten us ??? Now we are at least doing something that is getting some attention. Even if it doesn't change a thing we will know exactly what our fate is by Ralphs responses..... and maybe that will really set people off.. and that is what I want to see. Peopel sick and tired of being taken advantage of by an Old man who is more concerned about estate taxes then the generations of fans that brought him that wealth in this team in the 1st place
I will suppport all the plans the masses agree too... and I am not deluded.. I honestly believe you passive attitude to be the epitomy of delusional in this case. Maybe nothing changes, but at least I know I tried to do something and force some change by supporting real change in this organization....
and what have you done Jan ????? Serioulsy what are you even willing to do ?
Jan Reimers
10-15-2009, 10:27 AM
You haven't come up with one plan to force Ralph to make changes... I have and I've supported this one. I've tried to ralley some message boards to start boycotting going into the games on Sunday. Goto the game, tailgate but do not enter. Protest outside and carry signs and making noise demanding changes.. No different then the billboard, but the billboard actually happened, It is almost impossible to get 70K fans to actually mass together... which is the real problem, and it comes from attitudes like this.. ""Oh I'm not going ot stay outside I bought my tickets and win or lose I still enjoy my Bills"" and that is a problem for Bills fans who want to win the big one..... You have to make very strong statements of dissastifaction otherwise what ???
If you joined the billboard crowd and more people joined it can be the start of something.. and what do you have to lose here Jan... the Bills.. Ralph has played that card. if anything we have 2- 5 years to right the ship and have a run after that its pretty much over with anyways. So either jump on board or remain in your passive do nothing and just complain about the Bills mode... We all have been complaining for years and then some.. where has it gotten us ??? Now we are at least doing something that is getting some attention. Even if it doesn't change a thing we will know exactly what our fate is by Ralphs responses..... and maybe that will really set people off.. and that is what I want to see. Peopel sick and tired of being taken advantage of by an Old man who is more concerned about estate taxes then the generations of fans that brought him that wealth in this team in the 1st place
I will suppport all the plans the masses agree too... and I am not deluded.. I honestly believe you passive attitude to be the epitomy of delusional in this case. Maybe nothing changes, but at least I know I tried to do something and force some change by supporting real change in this organization....
and what have you done Jan ????? Serioulsy what are you even willing to do ?
There is nothing any of us can do to change Ralph. I favor some of the in-game protests that have been suggested - walk-outs, late arrivals, demonstrations in the stadium lots, etc. - because they keep fan disenchantment within the realm of football. The billboards go outside that realm. But none of this will change anything.
Actually, if Jan didn't renew his season tickets next year it wouldn't be a major media story making a mockery out of WNY but it would do more to influence RW to make changes you can bet on that.
You haven't come up with one plan to force Ralph to make changes... I have and I've supported this one. I've tried to ralley some message boards to start boycotting going into the games on Sunday. Goto the game, tailgate but do not enter. Protest outside and carry signs and making noise demanding changes.. No different then the billboard, but the billboard actually happened, It is almost impossible to get 70K fans to actually mass together... which is the real problem, and it comes from attitudes like this.. ""Oh I'm not going ot stay outside I bought my tickets and win or lose I still enjoy my Bills"" and that is a problem for Bills fans who want to win the big one..... You have to make very strong statements of dissastifaction otherwise what ???
If you joined the billboard crowd and more people joined it can be the start of something.. and what do you have to lose here Jan... the Bills.. Ralph has played that card. if anything we have 2- 5 years to right the ship and have a run after that its pretty much over with anyways. So either jump on board or remain in your passive do nothing and just complain about the Bills mode... We all have been complaining for years and then some.. where has it gotten us ??? Now we are at least doing something that is getting some attention. Even if it doesn't change a thing we will know exactly what our fate is by Ralphs responses..... and maybe that will really set people off.. and that is what I want to see. Peopel sick and tired of being taken advantage of by an Old man who is more concerned about estate taxes then the generations of fans that brought him that wealth in this team in the 1st place
I will suppport all the plans the masses agree too... and I am not deluded.. I honestly believe you passive attitude to be the epitomy of delusional in this case. Maybe nothing changes, but at least I know I tried to do something and force some change by supporting real change in this organization....
and what have you done Jan ????? Serioulsy what are you even willing to do ?
DraftBoy
10-15-2009, 10:33 AM
Still think an organized black out is the best idea.
There is nothing any of us can do to change Ralph. I favor some of the in-game protests that have been suggested - walk-outs, late arrivals, demonstrations in the stadium lots, etc. - because they keep fan disenchantment within the realm of football. The billboards go outside that realm. But none of this will change anything.
Who are the Bills drafting next year? Could I get the lotto picks for tonight? Tell sylvia brown to hit me up, she never returns my calls :gtfo2:
ddaryl
10-15-2009, 10:46 AM
Still think an organized black out is the best idea.
I think not going into the game makes a bigger statement to the team and the media
but you try and organize that.. I bet it fails massively at least with a bilboard it only takes a few who are really dedicated to the cause to make a statement.
a team blackout maybe you get lucky and 1/3 dress in black.. then everyone will think its a halloween thing... bad timing for this time of year
empty seats after a known sell out sends a statement.. wearing black still show the fans are willing to show up fo rmore crap IMO
DraftBoy
10-15-2009, 10:47 AM
I think not going into the game makes a bigger statement to the team and the media
but you try and organize that.. I bet it fails massively at least with a bilboard it only takes a few who are really dedicated to the cause to make a statement.
a team blackout maybe you get lucky and 1/3 dress in black.. then everyone will think its a halloween thing... bad timing for this time of year
empty seats after a known sell out sends a statement.. wearing black still show the fans are willing to show up fo rmore crap IMO
Watch some college football then tell me color outs don't get national attention, fans motivated and together, and are hard to pull off.
Still think an organized black out is the best idea.
with some owners it would no doubt. But you haven't really been listening to Wilson's attitude about things if you think that in this case.
ddaryl
10-15-2009, 10:50 AM
There is nothing any of us can do to change Ralph. I favor some of the in-game protests that have been suggested - walk-outs, late arrivals, demonstrations in the stadium lots, etc. - because they keep fan disenchantment within the realm of football. The billboards go outside that realm. But none of this will change anything.
how the **** does a billboard go outside this fantasy "realm" of yours. Its a statement absolulty no different then any of the statements you support... No different not even a little bit different. Fans donated for it and it is being done all by fans...
but for some bizzare reaosn a billboard offennds you and for the love of anythign I can;t understand your reasoning.. not even a little bit.
The billboard has happened.. your fan protests are not going to happen.. Especially with all the people pushing for its support... I see nothing on any message board or any web page that is really gaining fan prtest support outside of the billboard...
so for crying out loud already support it.. Would it kill you to donate $10 friggin bucks ???? and at least make this statement
ddaryl
10-15-2009, 10:52 AM
Watch some college football then tell me color outs don't get national attention, fans motivated and together, and are hard to pull off.
impress me and organize your black out...
empty seats would be even bolder iMO....
but nothing like a bunch of people wearing black near halloween
DraftBoy
10-15-2009, 11:03 AM
impress me and organize your black out...
empty seats would be even bolder iMO....
but nothing like a bunch of people wearing black near halloween
Impress you how, I dont live in Buffalo. Is it really that complicated of an idea?
DraftBoy
10-15-2009, 11:04 AM
with some owners it would no doubt. But you haven't really been listening to Wilson's attitude about things if you think that in this case.
Exactly same affect as the billboard, but shows more unity, creativity, and generates more buzz.
tatersalad
10-15-2009, 11:07 AM
Best all around player on the team.. he has more Pr Bowls playing for the Bills than anyone on the current roster I beleive... God Bless "The Punter"
I remember he took such a nasty shot in the Pro Bowl... Thought he was dead... Anyone else remember that ...
Sean Taylor was the one that destoyed him on a fake punt.... yeah you can youtube that hit
ddaryl
10-15-2009, 11:11 AM
Impress you how, I dont live in Buffalo. Is it really that complicated of an idea?
what you can't start a campign via the internet and via message boards and facebook etc....
and your fan unity posts doens't make any sense since the media is pretty much telling the story and saying the fans have had it.. the billboard put the message through loud and clear.
Doens't mean Ralph does anything.. but do you think wearing black makes Ralph react....
Nobody willing to actually go into the game leaving seat empty on TV embarasses Ralph the most and forces him to ackowledge because the NFL doesn't like that at all. A bunch of halloweeners wearing black in October makes a a bit of a statement but hey the seats are still filled so no real embarasment to Ralph or the NFL IMO
don't go into the game is the better idea show up in the parking lock tailgate and stay outside.. IMO that would speak 1000 times louder... and that is pretty damn creative idea IMO
but as for creative.. the billboard was a great idea, for crying out loud just support it and get behind the movement.. .it starts with this billboard it is a catalyst that might grab the attention of others who want to protest, and it might be the catalyst that gives these other ideas some wings...
DraftBoy
10-15-2009, 11:18 AM
what you can't start a campign via the internet and via message boards and facebook etc....
and your fan unity posts doens't make any sense since the media is pretty much telling the story and saying the fans have had it.. the billboard put the message through loud and clear.
Doens't mean Ralph does anything.. but do you think wearing black makes Ralph react....
Nobody willing to actually go into the game leaving seat empty on TV embarasses Ralph the most and forces him to ackowledge because the NFL doesn't like that at all. A bunch of halloweeners wearing black in October makes a a bit of a statement but hey the seats are still filled so no real embarasment to Ralph or the NFL IMO
don't go into the game is the better idea show up in the parking lock tailgate and stay outside.. IMO that would speak 1000 times louder... and that is pretty damn creative idea IMO
but as for creative.. the billboard was a great idea, for crying out loud just support it and get behind the movement.. .it starts with this billboard it is a catalyst that might grab the attention of others who want to protest, and it might be the catalyst that gives these other ideas some wings...
I have neither the patience nor time to go over PR 101 with you. But without having a firm person in the place by which to place a protest attempting to organize and pull one off would be futile. If you can't get that I can't help you.
As for your final statememt, no I won't support it. I refuse to just blindly put my faith in something I dont agree with. Its not a crime against Bills fans to disagree with them. If you don't like my disagreements, that's fine don't respond or read them. However Im going to continue to make comments and when Jauron is still here till season's end and we dont completely clean out the FO, what will the billboard have accomplished??
Exactly same affect as the billboard.
Which is absolutely nothing to the problem it's supposed to address. Sure, RW will make some statement to the press about it to appease people and further the marketing crap they've been shoving down our throats for years. If your saying all these things are going to convince RW that putting a good product out instead of marketing crap is the proper business strategy in todays world then you are sadly mistaken. This whole thing just plays right into their game. Next they are going to make some changes and then things will be really looking up [sarcasm].
DraftBoy
10-15-2009, 11:27 AM
Which is absolutely nothing to the problem it's supposed to address. Sure, RW will make some statement to the press about it to appease people and further the marketing crap they've been shoving down our throats for years. If your saying all these things are going to convince RW that putting a good product out instead of marketing crap is the proper business strategy in todays world then you are sadly mistaken. This whole thing just plays right into their game. Next they are going to make some changes and then things will be really looking up [sarcasm].
I know nothing will happen, Im in complete agreement with you on that.
I know nothing will happen, Im in complete agreement with you on that.
However, if people who have had season tickets for decades start mailing in a no thank you it's going to make a difference. Something has to penetrate that delusional attitude of RW that no matter what he does people are going come in droves to support the team. I think that's really screwed up myself and a horrible situation for WNY.
DraftBoy
10-15-2009, 11:32 AM
However, if people who have had season tickets for decades start mailing in a no thank you it's going to make a difference. Something has to penetrate that delusional attitude of RW that no matter what he does people are going come in droves to support the team. I think that's really screwed up myself and a horrible situation for WNY.
I dont think even this will have an impact. Wilson is not going to do anything because he doesnt care anymore imo. He knows he's got what maybe 3-5 years left, then its somebody else team. He's still making money.
Mike13
10-15-2009, 11:50 AM
Ralph wont make any chnages unless ticket sales decrease dramatically,
ddaryl
10-15-2009, 11:51 AM
I have neither the patience nor time to go over PR 101 with you. But without having a firm person in the place by which to place a protest attempting to organize and pull one off would be futile. If you can't get that I can't help you.
As for your final statememt, no I won't support it. I refuse to just blindly put my faith in something I dont agree with. Its not a crime against Bills fans to disagree with them. If you don't like my disagreements, that's fine don't respond or read them. However Im going to continue to make comments and when Jauron is still here till season's end and we dont completely clean out the FO, what will the billboard have accomplished??
the same thing your black out has accomplished
sheesh... do nothing Bills fans to the rescue
DraftBoy
10-15-2009, 11:52 AM
the same thing your black out has accomplished
sheesh... do nothing Bills fans to the rescue
Exactly! Except the idea I support doesnt cost poor saps money in a tight economy.
ddaryl
10-15-2009, 12:02 PM
Exactly! Except the idea I support doesnt cost poor saps money in a tight economy.
we disagree I get it and you don't know crap about PR 101 , Seriously who the **** do yo uthink you are, some super special PR guy that has a bachelors in media...
Sorry but you should support this and help promote it because this is the start of it all... if it works yay! If it doesn't we lost nothing but a couple of $$$$ serioulsy $5, $10 heck we're supporting the economy by creating work for the Billboard man LOL!
you want your protests.. their is momentum behind this billboard and the news stories alone will attract more Bills fans. That PR101 for you and look at all those news sites carrying the story... thats what PR101 is all about momentum... and you actually don't have time to teach ME PR101...
ddaryl
10-15-2009, 12:04 PM
Ralph wont make any chnages unless ticket sales decrease dramatically,
I disagree if fan pressure is turned up hot enough he'll be forced to start acknowleding it.. Maybe he doesn't make the changes we want.. but we can force him to do some hard thinking
DraftBoy
10-15-2009, 12:05 PM
we disagree I get it and you don't know crap about PR 101 , Seriously who the **** do yo uthink you are, some super special PR guy that has a bachelors in media...
Sorry but you should support this and help promote it because this is the start of it all... if it works yay! If it doesn't we lost nothing but a couple of $$$$ serioulsy $5, $10 heck we're supporting the economy by creating work for the Billboard man LOL!
you want your protests.. their is momentum behind this billboard and the news stories alone will attract more Bills fans. That PR101 for you and look at all those news sites carrying the story... thats what PR101 is all about momentum... and you actually don't have time to teach ME PR101...
Actually my profession is Public Relations but that's not really important.
What is $5, or $10 in this kind of an economy? I dont know go ask somebody who lost their job what $5, or $10 is.
No I dont want protests, I just know that typical fan reaction is irrational and emotional, so you cant stop that, but I think it can be focused in a better direction.
Nobody said the news wouldn't cover this...so your last point its kinda pointless since nobody disagreed with it.
ddaryl
10-15-2009, 12:53 PM
Actually my profession is Public Relations but that's not really important.
What is $5, or $10 in this kind of an economy? I dont know go ask somebody who lost their job what $5, or $10 is.
No I dont want protests, I just know that typical fan reaction is irrational and emotional, so you cant stop that, but I think it can be focused in a better direction.
Nobody said the news wouldn't cover this...so your last point its kinda pointless since nobody disagreed with it.
obvioulsy the people who cannot afford $5 or $10 bucks are not donating $5 or $10 bucks ... but a lot of us can and alot of us have... that's all anyone involved on this has asked... So that point is moot
the fans have been calm and patient for along time.. This is what happens when they get blatantly ignored and rightfully so.. Last years DJ extension was a slap in the face to football let alone Bills fans... why should we continue to accept this..
Everyone here wants the house cleaned.. a billboard that is getting national media attention is something to move forward with...
So now you say you don't want protests... that is the only option ... Wether you protest the game, wear black, not renew your season tickets.. protests are the only avenue anyone here has. Nothing else sends a message to Ralph, maybe Ralph takes the message and stews on it for awhile and decides he has made many bad choices and gives a proven coach a chance here and brings in a real football guy for a GM just maybe... but the fans HAVE to do something.. Our time is running out ... tick tock
For the record, irrational is making dolls of Ralph and putting them in nooses while posting signs that say "Die Ralph ... DIE!!!!. There is absolutly nothing irrational about this. Fans want change and the billboard asks for change...... The news media is reporting change is needed, and now Bills fans are making a statement we have all pretty much made here on this message board... And it is one we want.. so why is a billboard making this exact same statement irriational ????????????
It is not... its a simple statement that costs a few Bills fans a $5, $10, $20 or in my case $25 to fund. I love the Bills and I will do anything rational at this point to try and force change.
FRONT PAGE OF NFL.COM
THIS THING JUST BLEW UP!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8136dce7&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
BertSquirtgum
10-15-2009, 01:34 PM
best thing ever. whoever said this was a bad idea, i would boo you.
Front page of Yahoo! now ...
Billz_fan
10-15-2009, 03:04 PM
Front page of Yahoo! now ...
add MSN.com to the list of front pages :up:
Jan Reimers
10-16-2009, 07:13 AM
how the **** does a billboard go outside this fantasy "realm" of yours. Its a statement absolulty no different then any of the statements you support... No different not even a little bit different. Fans donated for it and it is being done all by fans...
but for some bizzare reaosn a billboard offennds you and for the love of anythign I can;t understand your reasoning.. not even a little bit.
The billboard has happened.. your fan protests are not going to happen.. Especially with all the people pushing for its support... I see nothing on any message board or any web page that is really gaining fan prtest support outside of the billboard...
so for crying out loud already support it.. Would it kill you to donate $10 friggin bucks ???? and at least make this statement
Sorry I disagree with you, dd. But do you have to yell at me over a difference of opinion?
ddaryl
10-16-2009, 07:27 AM
Sorry I disagree with you, dd. But do you have to yell at me over a difference of opinion?
Dude I am pissed off at people who sit around here and complain about the obvious problems, and then when something is actually starting to happen and fans are coming together and making a statement a bunch of ya's put your tail between your legs and come up with the lamest reasons I have ever heard for not supporting it.
I have yet to see you offer any such advice or even pursue making something happen and I knbow your as upset with the last decade of this crap as everyone else....
and yes I am still pissed off at those who have put their tails betwen their legs on this one
Dude I am pissed off at people who sit around here and complain about the obvious problems, and then when something is actually starting to happen and fans are coming together and making a statement a bunch of ya's put your tail between your legs and come up with the lamest reasons I have ever heard for not supporting it.
I have yet to see you offer any such advice or even pursue making something happen and I knbow your as upset with the last decade of this crap as everyone else....
and yes I am still pissed off at those who have put their tails betwen their legs on this one
I'd say you have a problem. If you are going to be involved in any form of social activism you can't expect everyone on earth to believe in your cause or your methods. Go ahead and get pissed off at people who see your methods as inappropriate. Waste your energy on being pissed at people then. I suggest you take a step outside yourself for a second though and stop being so arrogant to believe you have perfect solutions to things or other people are so diametrically wrong.
mybills
10-16-2009, 07:55 AM
Then again Typ0, if you're against it, why not make your own thread about being against it?
Jan Reimers
10-16-2009, 08:13 AM
I'm against publicly embarrassing someone on a billboard over football-related issues, plain and simple. It's not my style. Demonstrations, walk-outs, black-outs, silence, etc. at the Ralph are fine. It keeps the protest where it belongs, in our football venue.
I also have the option of canceling my 4 club level season tickets, which I might do.
That's the last thing I'm going to say on this issue, because I'm sick of being called names as if this is some sort of 3rd grade fight.
ddaryl
10-16-2009, 08:39 AM
I'd say you have a problem. If you are going to be involved in any form of social activism you can't expect everyone on earth to believe in your cause or your methods. Go ahead and get pissed off at people who see your methods as inappropriate. Waste your energy on being pissed at people then. I suggest you take a step outside yourself for a second though and stop being so arrogant to believe you have perfect solutions to things or other people are so diametrically wrong.
I don't believe i have the perfect solutions..
I am not arrogant either. I have yet to hear a single plausible reason for anyone to be against the billboard.
I have the right to voice my opinions on this one as strong as they are because I have sat on this forum with all of you and listened to the dialy whines and cries and pissed off hatred posts towards the franchises' keepers. Nobody has to reply to anything I say either.. that would be the best way to stop me from replying back
There has been so much whining on this board by every one of us... there has been pages of sarcastic and vile hatred posts for the way this organization is run... but we are worried about embarassing the people who have embarassed the entire city of Buffalo for years ???????????????????????
I am pissed off, and that's not going to change because I witness the same crap everyone else here has, and I want it to stop NOW.. All I want is for the tail between there legs crowd to get on board with it, and stop with the unbelievable silly notion that we are hurting someones feelings.... What about the way we all feel after the majority of Sundays for the last 9 or so years.... Why do we have to spare Jaurons feelings when we all want to strangle him on game day ???????
Organize protests, blackouts, or no shows.. I have tried some.. but without more peopel jumping on board and getting behind this beginning movement of a simple billboard I fail to see how any other protests are actually going to happen... and that's what I find un-firikkin believeable
Nobody here who has challenged me on this issue has lifted a single finger to make a statement.... they mention they would be ok with this or that.. but then they know they won't ever have to really do anything ever about it because they say it will never happen and lets face it we can't do anything anyway ... that's been posted on this board to
are we really going to watch the last 5 or so years of the Bills life just be completely flushed down the toilet by a man who has more then enough money on hand to do what needs to be done ????
or can we as fans apply some strong pressures on him and let him know exactly how sick and tired we are with the same old crap being shoveld to us ???
JAN DRAFTBOY TYPO... organize th eprotest you feel is appropriate, and least the billboard actually is happening.... and wehter it has an effect on Ralph will only be re-assured by more people jumping on board and adding more pressure
otehrwise you all know exactly what is coming.. We can do nothing and get ****, or we can do something and possibly get the old man to react, or we still get ****, but when the Bills finally up and move we wil all now it wasn;t because we didn't exhaust our resources
I just want to actually enjoy this team once again so my passion for it is what is making me upset with those who just cannot open their minds to what we may be able to start here
I think JAN just made a single plausible reason and you failed to hear it because it doesn't meet your needs to admit he's right. What JAN said was football is entertainment and putting that billboard up makes it personal. The billboard is perpetuating people doing unconstructive things with their passion like target the people whose names appeared on the billboard in unreasonable ways. For example, their kid goes to school and gets beat up and teased because he's the kid of one of the coaches. I know that is not your mission but it does get involved with all this stuff. That's JANS point it wasn't really mine but at least I listened to him and didn't just thrash out...
I don't believe i have the perfect solutions..
I am not arrogant either. I have yet to hear a single plausible reason for anyone to be against the billboard.
I have the right to voice my opinions on this one as strong as they are because I have sat on this forum with all of you and listened to the dialy whines and cries and pissed off hatred posts towards the franchises' keepers. Nobody has to reply to anything I say either.. that would be the best way to stop me from replying back
There has been so much whining on this board by every one of us... there has been pages of sarcastic and vile hatred posts for the way this organization is run... but we are worried about embarassing the people who have embarassed the entire city of Buffalo for years ???????????????????????
I am pissed off, and that's not going to change because I witness the same crap everyone else here has, and I want it to stop NOW.. All I want is for the tail between there legs crowd to get on board with it, and stop with the unbelievable silly notion that we are hurting someones feelings.... What about the way we all feel after the majority of Sundays for the last 9 or so years.... Why do we have to spare Jaurons feelings when we all want to strangle him on game day ???????
Organize protests, blackouts, or no shows.. I have tried some.. but without more peopel jumping on board and getting behind this beginning movement of a simple billboard I fail to see how any other protests are actually going to happen... and that's what I find un-firikkin believeable
Nobody here who has challenged me on this issue has lifted a single finger to make a statement.... they mention they would be ok with this or that.. but then they know they won't ever have to really do anything ever about it because they say it will never happen and lets face it we can't do anything anyway ... that's been posted on this board to
are we really going to watch the last 5 or so years of the Bills life just be completely flushed down the toilet by a man who has more then enough money on hand to do what needs to be done ????
or can we as fans apply some strong pressures on him and let him know exactly how sick and tired we are with the same old crap being shoveld to us ???
JAN DRAFTBOY TYPO... organize th eprotest you feel is appropriate, and least the billboard actually is happening.... and wehter it has an effect on Ralph will only be re-assured by more people jumping on board and adding more pressure
otehrwise you all know exactly what is coming.. We can do nothing and get ****, or we can do something and possibly get the old man to react, or we still get ****, but when the Bills finally up and move we wil all now it wasn;t because we didn't exhaust our resources
I just want to actually enjoy this team once again so my passion for it is what is making me upset with those who just cannot open their minds to what we may be able to start here
ddaryl
10-16-2009, 11:21 AM
it is personal for me... I wear my pride for this team on my sleeves.
but I listened to Jans post but I strongly disagree with it.. obviously..
there is nothing wrong with the billboard as a way to grab Ralphs attention and hopefully it makes him address the issue publicly...
the next step is for ticket holders to refuse to walk into the next home game that sends the ultimate message IMO, and that's the one that will really grab headlines
a blackout is a decent call but I think it actually would be looked at more as a halloween thing....
Empty seats to a soldout game would scream fans are pissed off enough to not even want to watch the crap put forward
but that momentum starts with this billboard.. but it already looks to me like the momentum is dying
buying tickets and not going just looks like a bunch of complete tools to me. Why would you bother purchasing a ticket to something you weren't going to attend other than you really want to support the cause but just couldn't get there?
it is personal for me... I wear my pride for this team on my sleeves.
but I listened to Jans post but I strongly disagree with it.. obviously..
there is nothing wrong with the billboard as a way to grab Ralphs attention and hopefully it makes him address the issue publicly...
the next step is for ticket holders to refuse to walk into the next home game that sends the ultimate message IMO, and that's the one that will really grab headlines
a blackout is a decent call but I think it actually would be looked at more as a halloween thing....
Empty seats to a soldout game would scream fans are pissed off enough to not even want to watch the crap put forward
but that momentum starts with this billboard.. but it already looks to me like the momentum is dying
buying tickets and not going just looks like a bunch of complete tools to me. Why would you bother purchasing a ticket to something you weren't going to attend other than you really want to support the cause but just couldn't get there?
WE DIDNT WANT TO DO NO-SHOWS AND FIRINGS AFTER THE PATRIOTS GAME. WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A POSITIVE FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON. SADLY WE WERE ALL WRONG.
TICKETS FOR THE NOVEMBER 1ST GAME HAVE BEEN SOLD OUT FOR WEEKS, SO WHAT...THE...****...SHOULD WE AS FANS DO TO PROTEST ASIDE FROM A BILLBOARD?
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Demon
10-16-2009, 01:22 PM
Colin Cowherd was talking about the billboard today on ESPN radio. He said this problem will always be there as long as ownership is cheap. He said you get what you pay for and if Bills want to be winners and applauded the fans for standing up. He said the ball is in ownerships court to get the $5-7 million/per year guy and fix the problems.
sdbillsfan2
10-16-2009, 01:57 PM
A billboard , protest, dumping Buffalo manure in front of Ralph's gate ( my personal favorite) may not accomplish anything as far as changing this team. But....what it will do is allow a large number of us to vent, stand up and say "we're not happy with the BS any more" .
RW and the front office have to be smart enough to know , see and realize that this doesn't bode well for the future sale of tickets. Fans are getting wise to the tactic of signing an occasional start here or there just to fill the seats.
I honest believe all of us as fans are just as guilty for this situation for supporting a second class circus. We let them get away with this Ship
We don't tolerate second class service at restaurants, second class products at stores etc .. So why not speak up and let them know we're mad as hell and won't take it any more.
For those die hard fans...want season tickets next year ? Hold off until the last minute next year. let them sweat.
Bills fans might be the worst poker players , OBD can read the tell on your faces and take us for all we are worth ever year.
Demon
10-16-2009, 05:01 PM
PTI just mentioned the billboard on espn.... wow.
sdbillsfan2
10-16-2009, 05:19 PM
PTI just mentioned the billboard on espn.... wow.
Okay Ralph....Is this really the publicity you wanted for the Bills? A few hundred thousands die hard, loyal and knowledgeable fans can't be wrong! Act like a HoF owner , step up and dump DJ now! Spend a few more bucks and sent quality football players on the field. Have some BUFFALO pride old man ...This ain't Detroit!
BADTHINGSMAN
10-16-2009, 05:30 PM
PTI just mentioned the billboard on espn.... wow.
Was only a quick thing but still was mentioned.
Was only a quick thing but still was mentioned.
video?
BoyILuvLoznStupidly
10-17-2009, 07:38 PM
video?
its at the very end, the last minute of the show here is the link http://sports.espn.go.com/espnradio/player?context=podcast&id=4566643
Do you keep going to a restaurant with crappy food just to complain every time?
A billboard , protest, dumping Buffalo manure in front of Ralph's gate ( my personal favorite) may not accomplish anything as far as changing this team. But....what it will do is allow a large number of us to vent, stand up and say "we're not happy with the BS any more" .
RW and the front office have to be smart enough to know , see and realize that this doesn't bode well for the future sale of tickets. Fans are getting wise to the tactic of signing an occasional start here or there just to fill the seats.
I honest believe all of us as fans are just as guilty for this situation for supporting a second class circus. We let them get away with this Ship
We don't tolerate second class service at restaurants, second class products at stores etc .. So why not speak up and let them know we're mad as hell and won't take it any more.
For those die hard fans...want season tickets next year ? Hold off until the last minute next year. let them sweat.
Bills fans might be the worst poker players , OBD can read the tell on your faces and take us for all we are worth ever year.
don137
10-18-2009, 07:43 AM
I see where Jan an ddaryl are coming from. I am pretty sure everyone knew Ralph would not see the billboard. I don't think having Ralph see it was the goal.
The goal was to create pressure on Ralph that says we love this team and are sick of ownership not doing anything about it. Now Ralph may not see it but the goal was to have all areas of the sports world have talk about it puts pressure on Ralph to do something.
I think everyone knows the Bills are a joke of a franchise. The good affect of this I feel this shows is Bills fans care dearly for their team. However, I also feel this potentially hurts Buffalo in landing a decent coach because it brings in the spotlight what a bad owner Ralph really is and makes a potential coach wonder if the Bills have a bad owner will he have the resources to win in Buffalo or be set up to fail like his predecessors.
Ralph wilson understands this. He knows the insiders are on to him and for the last decade has been running scarred desperately trying to hire SOMEONE to do the job because he can't stand long enough to do it himself.
I see where Jan an ddaryl are coming from. I am pretty sure everyone knew Ralph would not see the billboard. I don't think having Ralph see it was the goal.
The goal was to create pressure on Ralph that says we love this team and are sick of ownership not doing anything about it. Now Ralph may not see it but the goal was to have all areas of the sports world have talk about it puts pressure on Ralph to do something.
I think everyone knows the Bills are a joke of a franchise. The good affect of this I feel this shows is Bills fans care dearly for their team. However, I also feel this potentially hurts Buffalo in landing a decent coach because it brings in the spotlight what a bad owner Ralph really is and makes a potential coach wonder if the Bills have a bad owner will he have the resources to win in Buffalo or be set up to fail like his predecessors.
sdbillsfan2
10-19-2009, 09:22 PM
Do you keep going to a restaurant with crappy food just to complain every time?
I go to eat, and don't have much choice if it's the only place in town. I also except and deserve to get my monies worth. I won't let some old fart try to convince me me he's serving steak and find meatloaf on my plate. I paid for steak , why shouldn't I get it?
If people got a decent product for their money , do you thing they would really complain.
Worked in media for twenty years .. i could see this coming a mile away Good Job Guys...
Bmax...
Worked in media for twenty years .. i could see this coming a mile away Good Job Guys...
Bmax...
Now what's your opinion on a 1st quarter hold out by Bills fans? The team kicks off to complete SILENCE like its an exhibition game on mars. That would spread like wild fire over airwaves no?
I don't understand. Which is it? You keep going to the only crappy place in town that calls their hamburger steak or not? Not me. I go get a steak at the store and cook it myself. No way I'm going to be taken advantage of over and over again. That kind of crap is reserved for thruway restaurants where people on go by once in a great while.
I go to eat, and don't have much choice if it's the only place in town. I also except and deserve to get my monies worth. I won't let some old fart try to convince me me he's serving steak and find meatloaf on my plate. I paid for steak , why shouldn't I get it?
If people got a decent product for their money , do you thing they would really complain.
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