Canadian'eh!
10-18-2009, 10:13 AM
Forked from: Sullivan rips Jauron with some stats that are sickening. (http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showpost.php?postid=3023016)
I always tell my students that I view my role as a professor as that of a coach. I deliver to them the material, teach them how to learn it and understand it and be able to discuss it with some smarts. I have taught some rather average students, who are more than willing and wanting to get better and learn, to get some some pretty decent grades.......for the semester that I am teaching them. I can talk them up the day of the test and "motivate" them but if they are ill prepared it doesn't matter what method of "motivation" I choose they won't do well. After that they have to step up and keep it going and there is no guarantee that they will understand other aspects of their education. In sports we have this belief that somebody can get in a player's grill and scream at them and they will perform. You have to have the teaching aspect before you can succeed at the screaming issue. If Ryan succeeds it is because his staff can teach not because he "motivates" on Sunday.
I wanted to fork this thread to be sure you see it Eb. My message is important to me, and demonstrates WHY Jauron is and always will be a failure as a coach.
Eb. I feel as though you left out something here.
Do you have to get in their faces and yell and scream constantly? No. It gets tuned out when overused. But can that be affective as a kick in the ass when someone with potential is screwing up? absolutely.
But even more importantly. I've had many many teachers and professors over the years. Some give the info and teach them to use it as you stated. But the TRULY GREAT ones were the ones who inspired you to WANT to know it. TO WANT to excel. That made you look forward to learning what they had to teach you, and were passionate about teaching it to you. That passion is infectious. When the teacher is passionate about teaching and what they are doing, you become motivated to learn. You want to see what they are so interested in for yourself.
So yes. "coaching" is in large part, giving you the correct information, and showing you how to use it. But if you want to be great at it, you also have to make them WANT to learn it, and do that by being passionate enough about it for them to see that this is a great thing.
There will be some students that the message doesn't get through too no matter what you do, just as there are some players that can't be motivated to be the best they can be. In the NFL it's your job to weed those guys out. They are never gonna make it. There will be some guys who are so self motivated they don't need it as well. But the ones in the middle are the ones you need to help to in both life and the NFL.
Dick is incapable of doing that. I don't know if he's giving the right information or not. But I KNOW he's not inspiring anyone. I hope for your students sake you do. If not there is a lot of potential out there that you are letting slip away. Sometimes it only takes 1 professor to inspire that, and sadly there aren't a lot of them who do.
I always tell my students that I view my role as a professor as that of a coach. I deliver to them the material, teach them how to learn it and understand it and be able to discuss it with some smarts. I have taught some rather average students, who are more than willing and wanting to get better and learn, to get some some pretty decent grades.......for the semester that I am teaching them. I can talk them up the day of the test and "motivate" them but if they are ill prepared it doesn't matter what method of "motivation" I choose they won't do well. After that they have to step up and keep it going and there is no guarantee that they will understand other aspects of their education. In sports we have this belief that somebody can get in a player's grill and scream at them and they will perform. You have to have the teaching aspect before you can succeed at the screaming issue. If Ryan succeeds it is because his staff can teach not because he "motivates" on Sunday.
I wanted to fork this thread to be sure you see it Eb. My message is important to me, and demonstrates WHY Jauron is and always will be a failure as a coach.
Eb. I feel as though you left out something here.
Do you have to get in their faces and yell and scream constantly? No. It gets tuned out when overused. But can that be affective as a kick in the ass when someone with potential is screwing up? absolutely.
But even more importantly. I've had many many teachers and professors over the years. Some give the info and teach them to use it as you stated. But the TRULY GREAT ones were the ones who inspired you to WANT to know it. TO WANT to excel. That made you look forward to learning what they had to teach you, and were passionate about teaching it to you. That passion is infectious. When the teacher is passionate about teaching and what they are doing, you become motivated to learn. You want to see what they are so interested in for yourself.
So yes. "coaching" is in large part, giving you the correct information, and showing you how to use it. But if you want to be great at it, you also have to make them WANT to learn it, and do that by being passionate enough about it for them to see that this is a great thing.
There will be some students that the message doesn't get through too no matter what you do, just as there are some players that can't be motivated to be the best they can be. In the NFL it's your job to weed those guys out. They are never gonna make it. There will be some guys who are so self motivated they don't need it as well. But the ones in the middle are the ones you need to help to in both life and the NFL.
Dick is incapable of doing that. I don't know if he's giving the right information or not. But I KNOW he's not inspiring anyone. I hope for your students sake you do. If not there is a lot of potential out there that you are letting slip away. Sometimes it only takes 1 professor to inspire that, and sadly there aren't a lot of them who do.