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  • X-Era
    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
    • Feb 2005
    • 27670

    Watch this guy sling the ball!!!

    Max Hall from BYU sould be in consideration for us if were thinking QB in the offseason...

    Watch this:

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    Hes got skill.

    Im looking forward to watching his game more thoroughly.

  • Ingtar33
    Dances With Buffaloes
    • Sep 2002
    • 15475

    #2
    Re: Watch this guy sling the ball!!!

    BYU QBs are like University of Florida (both in the Spurrier and Meyer regimes) QBs. an NFL team would be mad to draft one.
    Last edited by Ingtar33; 10-20-2009, 10:07 AM.
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    • DraftBoy
      Administrator
      • Jul 2002
      • 107443

      #3
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      Size issue, age issue, and lack of reading defenses are the big three red flags so far.
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      Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
      We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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      • X-Era
        What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
        • Feb 2005
        • 27670

        #4
        Re: Watch this guy sling the ball!!!

        Originally posted by DraftBoy
        Size issue, age issue, and lack of reading defenses are the big three red flags so far.
        Its still early, I want to see more. But on his raw ability to throw the ball, he has everything you want. Size I would agree with except for guys like Brees or Steve Young (fellow BYU alumn). I dont think its a huge issue at 6' 1", provided he has throwing lanes and can see over the linemen. Age is age, a few years older (24) doesn't necessarily hurt with players playing into the late 30's.

        I want to see more from him. Numbers wise hes done more than enough, but I don't put huge stock in those... Id rather evaluate him by watching him.

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        • X-Era
          What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
          • Feb 2005
          • 27670

          #5
          Re: Watch this guy sling the ball!!!

          Originally posted by Ingtar33
          BYU QBs are like University of Florida (both in the Spurrier and Meyer regimes) QBs. an NFL team would be mad to draft one.
          Steve Young?

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          • Crisis
            Registered User
            • Aug 2004
            • 12738

            #6
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            John Beck?
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            I will not be surprised if Tebow has more success than Peyton in the NFL.

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            • X-Era
              What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
              • Feb 2005
              • 27670

              #7
              Re: Watch this guy sling the ball!!!

              Originally posted by Crisis
              John Beck?
              Is BYU able to produce NFL quality QB's or not? Better yet, is there data to suggest that they have a lower NFL success rate than other colleges?

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              • DraftBoy
                Administrator
                • Jul 2002
                • 107443

                #8
                Re: Watch this guy sling the ball!!!

                Originally posted by X-Era
                Is BYU able to produce NFL quality QB's or not? Better yet, is there data to suggest that they have a lower NFL success rate than other colleges?

                Non Traditional Offense programs do produce NFL caliber QB's at a lower percentage. How many awesome QB's has Texas Tech produced since they went to the throw it 90 times a game method?
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                • X-Era
                  What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 27670

                  #9
                  Re: Watch this guy sling the ball!!!

                  Originally posted by DraftBoy
                  Non Traditional Offense programs do produce NFL caliber QB's at a lower percentage. How many awesome QB's has Texas Tech produced since they went to the throw it 90 times a game method?
                  Come on, we cant hen pick.

                  Hawaii, Texas Tech, there's plenty like that I agree.

                  There's also plenty of pro style offensive teams that dont always put out starting quality QB's.

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                  • DraftBoy
                    Administrator
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 107443

                    #10
                    Re: Watch this guy sling the ball!!!

                    Originally posted by X-Era
                    Come on, we cant hen pick.

                    Hawaii, Texas Tech, there's plenty like that I agree.

                    There's also plenty of pro style offensive teams dont always put out starting quality QB's.
                    Data doesn't lie, look at the top successful NFL QB's;

                    Brady
                    Manning
                    Brees

                    All played in Pro Style Offenses in College. That's only three, I could go on, but I think you get my point.
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                    Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                    We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                    • X-Era
                      What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 27670

                      #11
                      Re: Watch this guy sling the ball!!!

                      Originally posted by DraftBoy
                      Data doesn't lie, look at the top successful NFL QB's;

                      Brady
                      Manning
                      Brees

                      All played in Pro Style Offenses in College. That's only three, I could go on, but I think you get my point.
                      Ok, Brady played at Michigan, who else was so great from there?
                      How about Tenessee? and Purdue?

                      Notre Dame? Nebraska?

                      Take your pick.

                      And this says Michigan and Purdue use the spread offense???

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                      Did they always?
                      Last edited by X-Era; 10-20-2009, 06:23 PM.

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                      • DraftBoy
                        Administrator
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 107443

                        #12
                        Re: Watch this guy sling the ball!!!

                        Originally posted by X-Era
                        Ok, Brady played at Michigan, who else was so great from there?
                        How about Tenessee? and Purdue?

                        Notre Dame? Nebraska?

                        Take your pick.

                        The ability of one specific program to produce an NFL QB isn't the question though. Its what system best produces NFL QB's and that data is clear. NFL style offenses produce NFL ready QB's.

                        Matt Ryan in Boston College is another great example.
                        COMING SOON...
                        Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                        We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                        • DraftBoy
                          Administrator
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 107443

                          #13
                          Re: Watch this guy sling the ball!!!

                          Originally posted by X-Era
                          Ok, Brady played at Michigan, who else was so great from there?
                          How about Tenessee? and Purdue?

                          Notre Dame? Nebraska?

                          Take your pick.

                          And this says Michigan and Purdue use the spread offense???

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                          Did they always?
                          Michigan and Purdue just recently turned to spread offenses.
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                          Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                          We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                          • X-Era
                            What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 27670

                            #14
                            Re: Watch this guy sling the ball!!!

                            Originally posted by DraftBoy
                            The ability of one specific program to produce an NFL QB isn't the question though. Its what system best produces NFL QB's and that data is clear. NFL style offenses produce NFL ready QB's.

                            Matt Ryan in Boston College is another great example.
                            This talks about this exact issue and points to Flacco as being a guy who ran a lot from the shotgun:

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                            I like this comment "That's why you have to watch each player individually before you make a projection"

                            Its something to consider and like anything else, you would rather stack the deck for you instead of against you, but I don't think you can automatically discard someone just because they play in a pass happy offense.

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                            • X-Era
                              What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 27670

                              #15
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                              Here's another one that says Miami of Ohio ran a spread offense when Roeth played there.


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