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Think about it. Orton sucked last year and now is with a former coach under Billicheck in McDaniels and is doing great. Cassell had a good season with NE last year and now is average for KC. Bleadsoe did great for NE left and had 1 good season for Buffalo and after that he sucked. It makes you wonder how Brady would be in a different team.
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Re: Is it just me or is it looking more like Bradys only good because of coaching
Brady blows.
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He'd probably be the nobody that he really is.Originally posted by Mitchell55Comment
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Originally posted by Joe Fo Sho
I dont know how to say it. Its basically like a coach that learns from the HC for years to finally become a coach. They use the term alot when dealing with Caldwell and Dungy.Comment
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it's prodigy
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Re: Is it just me or is it looking more like Bradys only good because of coaching
Orton is riding the waves of a solid defense and mistake free play by the players around him. His offensive line is holding up when he really needs it to. Orton is garbage, but his team is making him look good.I am The Batman.Comment
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Kyle Orton is actually playing nearly mistake-free football and throwing very nicely.Originally posted by BillsWinComment
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Re: Is it just me or is it looking more like Bradys only good because of coaching
I don't think Orton is garbage, but he's definitely more of a game-manager than a game-winner for the most part. He's a 2-TD, 1-INT per game guy that shouldn't be the focal point of an offense.Originally posted by BillsWin"Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
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Its just you. Brady is a great QB and would likely suceed in a number of situations.Originally posted by Mitchell55Comment
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Brady is a phenom... All the coaching in the world doesn't produce the type of passes Brady makes on a regular basis, nor does it assure a guy like Brady can read D's as fast as he does....
BUT mix in a high quality coach to Brady's talent and you have a great QB who is a shoe in as a future HOF QB
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Brady is good. Very good
now I will go puke and shower...I feel sick and dirtyLast edited by LtFinFan66; 10-21-2009, 08:28 AM.
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Re: Is it just me or is it looking more like Bradys only good because of coaching
Originally posted by Mitchell55
I watched Bledsoes comeback game against the Chiefs last week. That guy has a top 10 arm in NFL history. His arm belongs in the same sentence with Peyton Manning and Marino... West Coast QB's like Brady, Cassell and Orton need a balanced attack and solid system. Although they can all read a defense better than Bledsoe. The flaw in your argument though is they all played for different Co-ordinators.I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
"Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.
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Re: Is it just me or is it looking more like Bradys only good because of coaching
There is little doubt that Brady has benefitted from a good situation. Just like Montana did. Just like Peyton Manning did (and his father didn't).
However, consider this:
Bill Belichick's record without Brady at QB is 52-62 (0.456). He made the playoffs once, going 1-1.
Bill Belichick's record with Brady at QB is 90-26 (0.776). He made the playoffs 6 times, going 14-3 with 3 Superbowl victories.
I would say both sides are better for the relationship.Last edited by Ickybaluky; 10-21-2009, 08:36 AM.Comment
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Bledsoe did have a great arm, better than anyone you mentioned other than Marino. You are wrong about Manning, who has a live arm but more along the lines of Brady. Actually, arm strength was one of the knocks on Manning coming out of college, believe it or not. It certainly isn't top-10 all time. That list would have a lot of crappy QBs on it.Originally posted by MBBedard
However, Bledsoe couldn't play QB nearly as well as Marino, Brady or Manning. The "arm" is only one aspect of QB play, and not even the most important one. Bledsoe wasn't really great in any other area of QB play. Comparing him to those others is laughable.Comment
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you don't play mistake free if you're garbage.Originally posted by BillsWinComment
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