Maybin the wasted pick!

[HHURRICANE]

Orakpo:

Tackles: 20 Sacks: 3.5

Maybin:

Tackles: 3 Sacks: 0


I don't think the Bills could have used Orakpo in the end.

[Raptor]

Wheres the playing time stat?

[Dr. Lecter]

Well, here we go again.

[justasportsfan]

At least Maybin is healthy. I think our trainers are doing a fabulous job in conditioning.

[HHURRICANE]

Wheres the playing time stat?


If he isn't good enough to play than don't draft him.

[BuffaloBlitz83]

OMG he hasn't STARTED!!! Not all rookies start out of the gate. If he started and you compared the 2 players, i'd tip my hat and agree. HH, you sure love jumping the gun. I honestly feel, you want the pick to FAIL. Deep down inside that evil, dirty, dark heart.

[Goobylal]

He's being wasted by the coaching staff. With every other team playing their rookie DE's at LB, and with the Bills' injuries at LB'er, Maybin SHOULD be playing LB'er. WTF!

[Raptor]

If he isn't good enough to play than don't draft him.


Yes because all teams have already figured that out on draft day


and how do we know he's not ready to play, how long did it take them to figure out to get Greer on the field? How long did it take them to figure out FJax was waaaay better than A-Train?

These threads are really just ridicules at best

[OpIv37]

I didn't like the Maybin pick from the beginning, and so far he hasn't proven me wrong.

But give the kid a chance- no one is a wasted pick after 6 games, and he was projected to be a 2-3 year project anyway. I would have preferred getting someone who could play immediately, but unfortunately our FO is always building for a future that never arrives.

[HHURRICANE]

OMG he hasn't STARTED!!! Not all rookies start out of the gate. If he started and you compared the 2 players, i'd tip my hat and agree. HH, you sure love jumping the gun. I honestly feel, you want the pick to FAIL. Deep down inside that evil, dirty, dark heart.


You drafted a guy at #11 in the entire draft and his impact has been 3 tackles. Sorry but this is the league of win now so WTF?

Even Maybin doesn't understand why he isn't being at LB.

[The Juice Is Loose]

it was a wasted pick. you had a choice between a guy who could play right away and was pro ready, or a 235lb one year college starter who bulked up but never played at 250.

maybin will only be decent if we switch to a 3-4.

[Goobylal]

You drafted a guy at #11 in the entire draft and his impact has been 3 tackles. Sorry but this is the league of win now so WTF?

Even Maybin doesn't understand why he isn't being at LB.
Take a look at what 3rd overall pick DE Tyson Jackson has done, in 5 starts and 6 games. And he was picked by Scott Pioli.

[psubills62]

I didn't like the Maybin pick from the beginning, and so far he hasn't proven me wrong.

But give the kid a chance- no one is a wasted pick after 6 games, and he was projected to be a 2-3 year project anyway. I would have preferred getting someone who could play immediately, but unfortunately our FO is always building for a future that never arrives.

I completely agree. Has he been disappointing? Of course he has. I thought for sure Buffalo would pass on Maybin because he couldn't help them right away.

But whether you're a wasted pick or not does NOT change on a weekly basis. My goodness, the kid is barely old enough to drink.

[bigbub2352]

This is a classic case of horrible roster management and scouting, we drafted a kid with all the athletism in the world and he is undersized and inexperianced
He is more suited for a 3-4OLB than a 4-3 and does not fit the scheme at all to play 4-3 DE in a ****ty Cover 2 Scheme
He is way to young to call him a wasted pick, but get him out of this scheme and get him some real game experiance and then u see what you got
Maybin right now is a victim of horrible coaching and also terrible judgement on the part of Fewell on not finding ways to make sure he is on the feild at least as a pass rush specialist

THis comes down to Coaching and Front Office decisions
i feel bad for Maybin

[Goobylal]

it was a wasted pick. you had a choice between a guy who could play right away and was pro ready, or a 235lb one year college starter who bulked up but never played at 250.
If Orakpo had been playing DE, your argument might hold water. But Orakpo's playing LB'er, which is where Maybin should be playing as well, this year.

[BuffaloBlitz83]

Look at BJ Rajji in GB. He is also not starting and had huge value heading into the draft. He went even before us. Not every pick starts.

[ddaryl]

I didn't like the Maybin pick from the beginning, and so far he hasn't proven me wrong.

But give the kid a chance- no one is a wasted pick after 6 games, and he was projected to be a 2-3 year project anyway. I would have preferred getting someone who could play immediately, but unfortunately our FO is always building for a future that never arrives.


Pretty much my thoughts as well... We needed an immediate impact player not a project who came out of college as a sophmore.. but he is a Bill now so we grin and bare it and hope he developes.


I however think he should be used as a OLB some. Especially since we are decimated at the position. We drafted him in the 1st rd early therefore he should be good enough to be able to find creative ways to get him on the field.... he is being paid million, all the more reasons we should be finding ways to get him on the field. We should be able ot depend on him to make some sort of impact NOW....

I fail to see why we are not trying to get him some playing time OLB, I guess the Bills don't feel he is capable of it.. which then brings us back to why reach for the guy at #11

[justasportsfan]

you guys got fooled into believing the hype that he was just going to come in an get one sack after another. He wasn't an every down DE and he had problems vs. the run at the college level.

[ddaryl]

you guys got fooled into believing the hype that he was just going to come in an get one sack after another. He wasn't an every down DE and he had problems vs. the run at the college level.


I think you need to narrow that down some.. many of us weren't on the Maybin at #11 train

in fact I thought Orakpo or Oher / trade back to draft Oher was the way to go

[bigbub2352]

Wasted picks
Whitner
McCargo
McGahee
M.Williams
Ryan Denney
Chris Kelsay
Roscoe Parrish
Kevin Everett
J.Hardy (so far)
Leodis McKelvin (so far)
Poz (so far)
im not ready to call them all busts but so far to date not so good
and Modrak has a job
hilarious

[Mahdi]

He's being wasted by the coaching staff. With every other team playing their rookie DE's at LB, and with the Bills' injuries at LB'er, Maybin SHOULD be playing LB'er. WTF!
Playing LB in a cover 2 and in any other defense is completely different. You have to be a coverage LB to play in the cover 2 Maybin is not a LB let alone one that excels in coverage.

[Jan Reimers]

Simply too early to say, particularly with this coaching staff. You can't tell very much after 6 games.

But you know, if you do want to make judgments this quickly - and even if we whiffed on Maybin - this looks like a great draft. Wood, Byrd, Levitre and Nelson look like long term starters, and maybe stars, while Harris and Langster show some promise. If Maybin comes around, this could be one of the Bills' legendary drafts.

[Historian]

Oye vey!

[psubills62]

Orakpo:

Tackles: 20 Sacks: 3.5

Maybin:

Tackles: 3 Sacks: 0


I don't think the Bills could have used Orakpo in the end.

I don't understand the point of threads like this, anyway. You offer ZERO insight into anything the Bills are currently doing. Yes, we get it, we should have drafted Orakpo. But why the heck are you trying it pound it into our heads? We're not the ones who drafted him.

I hate these stupid threads where people just pick out random players and say "this person sucks," or "we should never have picked this person," etc. You offer no insight, no new information, no solutions, nothing.

These threads have no value. If all you're looking for are zonebucks, I'll donate 100 to you just to stop your whining.

[DraftBoy]

Im put this as simply as I can. You have absolutely no idea what the hell you are talking about.

[SquishDaFish]

Wasted picks
Whitner
McCargo
McGahee
M.Williams
Ryan Denney
Chris Kelsay
Roscoe Parrish
Kevin Everett
J.Hardy (so far)
Leodis McKelvin (so far)
Poz (so far)
im not ready to call them all busts but so far to date not so good
and Modrak has a job
hilarious

I agree with all you listed except Everett (how you put him here I dont know) and then McKelvin, Poz have been very good seeing they are young.

[SquishDaFish]

HH you are becoming that annoying poster you just have to put on ignore. You say some of the dumbest crap.

[justasportsfan]

they all look like wastes because the coaches don't know how to use them properly.

[MikeInRoch]

I'm surprised anyone reads his crap any more.

[Billz_fan]

Personally I don't like the way the Bills have handled this whole thing with Maybin, from drafting him untill now. I wasn't crazy about the pick to begin with.

Now he doesn't see much playing time. Call me crazy but other than a QB (whom I give some more time) I expect my first round picks to have an impact and contribute. They however don't give him much of a chance to play so.........whats the point ? We could have traded away our #1 pick for later round picks who won't see the field much in year 1 and you got the same thing. No production.

[trapezeus]

what is worrying is that the team should be playing these guys because they are worried about their jobs. the fact jauron still doesn't use him makes me afraid that he's coming back next year.

[ddaryl]

Playing LB in a cover 2 and in any other defense is completely different. You have to be a coverage LB to play in the cover 2 Maybin is not a LB let alone one that excels in coverage.


I agree he is not a cover LB... but I do believe that he can spy a RB in the back field on running downs or be able to stay with a RB if he bounces out into a pass play.... or for that matter defend a zone... That might take some adjustments by our DC but if maybin is one of our better capable players we should be creating opportunity for him...

he can also rush the passer from the OLB spot on occasion ...

the bottom line is we ended up signing FA scrubs well into the season as a better option ??? I would have liked to beleive Maybin is the better option.. and the fact that I just want to see him play

[bigbub2352]

I agree with all you listed except Everett (how you put him here I dont know) and then McKelvin, Poz have been very good seeing they are young.
Everett was a bum before his injury
McKelvin had 1 good game against KC last yr and a couple of KO returns besides that has been torched regularly
Poz is again injury prone and hasnt made many plays
but hence why i put (so far) next to there names
i mean we have done nothing but lose and these guys were all hi draft picks and on the roster

[yordad]

Even Maybin doesn't understand why he isn't being at LB.:link:

[PECKERWOOD]

Should have been Oher, he is doing a great job in Baltimore right now, our line would be fuggin nasty.

[BillsOwnAll]

I dont get how the same people get mad we try to fill in holes with rookies.

Then they go on and complain when our rookies doesnt have probowl years.

[Mitchell55]

Orakpo is a LB

[kelly2reed4six]

Maybin was ROBBED by the Bills IF ANYTHING! He could probably be an impact player NOW on another team, but unfortunately for him he was taken by a *****hole team with a coach who won't play a rookie because he's a rookie! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I HATE JAURON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Dam*nit Ralph needs to die!! Now!

[TacklingDummy]

Maybin was the wrong pick. He had bust written all over him. Typical Bills.

[elltrain22]

I didn't like the Maybin pick from the beginning, and so far he hasn't proven me wrong.

But give the kid a chance- no one is a wasted pick after 6 games, and he was projected to be a 2-3 year project anyway. I would have preferred getting someone who could play immediately, but unfortunately our FO is always building for a future that never arrives.

well said OP

[PECKERWOOD]

You could dig up my mock drafts here, Orakpo was one of the guys I took with the 11th pick quite consistently.. Although I'm sure I had different mocks, Maybin was never the 11th pick in any of them.

[Mr. Pink]

You cannot diss Buffalo Bill personnel moves, ever.

If you do, you're jumping the gun, not a fan, overly critical.

Problem is Maybin flat out doesn't fit the system. He's too small to play DE and not smart enough to play LB. Even on passing downs he's too small to play DE because OTs in this league are huge, athletic and have good footwork. He excelled in college on raw athleticism alone against lesser talent. At this level everyone is high talent.

To be frankly honest, I think he'd struggle in a 3-4 environment as the pass rushing OLB because of his size.

You can point out all the other smallish ends you want who have succeeded in this league, but they're the exception not the rule.

The problem is, we as Bills have to constantly try to use the exception to base our expectations on what a player is going to be here. And as you should be able to tell by now, our front office hasn't done that good of a job in draft picks.

[Commissioner]

You drafted a guy at #11 in the entire draft and his impact has been 3 tackles. Sorry but this is the league of win now so WTF?

Even Maybin doesn't understand why he isn't being at LB.

I agree.... the #11 pick should be better than Kelsay...

That fact that he can get playing time over Kelsay doesn't say a whole lot about his potential.

[DraftBoy]

I agree.... the #11 pick should be better than Kelsay...

That fact that he can get playing time over Kelsay doesn't say a whole lot about his potential.


How does a raw rookie not getting playing time over a veteran whose having arguable a career year say anything about potential?