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Pretty interesting to see how all the rookies are doing thus far, we are at the halfway mark for the season, so I figured now would be an appropriate time for midterm grades.
Pretty interesting to see how all the rookies are doing thus far, we are at the halfway mark for the season, so I figured now would be an appropriate time for midterm grades.
Defensive linemen rookies take longer to develop then others. Orakpo has a benefit of the doubt because he fits in at OLB for them and he can play every down. And has Hansworth double teamed helps each play helps. Besides him, nobody else has made an impact. Maybin doesn't play much and thus doesn't make plays. The system isn't right for him and Jauron refuses to use him at Linebacker.
Orakpo or anyone else having a slightly better rookie season doesn't determine a career. I want to see Maybin with new coaches.... i just don't trust bozo's.
Connor Barwin-DE-Cincinnati
Height:6'4
Weight:255
40:4.64
Pros:
-Speed
-Size
-Motor
-Athletic
Cons:
-Raw
-Technique
-Run Support
-Hybrid
Overall:
Barwin is an interesting prospect because he is a former Bearcats basketball player along with also being a former TE on the football team. His athleticism
Re: Scouting Report: DE Connor Barwin He is probably my 3rd rated DE in the draft, if he falls to us in the 2nd I really hope we take him. I've seen him make plays in run support because he shoots into the backfield so fast, it forces the RB to make an extra cut.. Very similar player to Brown.
Matt Shaughnessy-DE-Wisconsin
Height: 6'5
Weight: 253
40: 4.74
Pros:
-Size
-Hold Ground
-Disciplined
-Arm Length
Cons:
-Dominance
-Athletic
-Injury History
-Strength
Overall:
Shaughnessy has that classic DE size that you really like. He has more than enough room on his frame to add 15-20 pounds and he
Re: Scouting Report: DE Matt Shaughnessy I wouldn't mind adding him in the 3rd round. God forbid we have a DE that can stop the run, lmao. Would take him over Kelsay any day of the week.
Not to brag, but I picked some pretty good choices. =P
Peckerwood - not sure what you're "bragging" about? Many people, including in the media and fanbase thought (and still think) Maybin will be a terror to opposing QBs for years to come. Once they landed him, not sure why they would go for another DE.
I don't care how much we hate the front offices and coaches but Bryd > Barwin and Levitre > Shaughnessy. We can argue the 11th pick all night long, but Wood, Bryd and Levitre were great picks.
That wasn't my entire mock draft, I had several, however, we were in need of a defensive end and my picks thus were clearly better than a front office whom is being paid big money for a job that an arm chair fan could do better at. Byrd was a spectacular pick, but every dog has his day, really. If you put you or I in the front office for 5 years, we'd both likely land a steal like that too. Btw, remember that we had to trade Peters away for Wood, I NEVER supported trading Peters, so that's the difference between me and them.
That wasn't my entire mock draft, I had several, however, we were in need of a defensive end and my picks thus were clearly better than a front office whom is being paid big money for a job that an arm chair fan could do better at. Byrd was a spectacular pick, but every dog has his day, really. If you put you or I in the front office for 5 years, we'd both likely land a steal like that too. Btw, remember that we had to trade Peters away for Wood, I NEVER supported trading Peters, so that's the difference between me and them.
Yeah, but you're basing it off on half a season. Half-season or even one full year doesn't make for a career. Didn't Peyton Manning get near the INT record is rookie year? If Maybin does work out for the Bills as they hoped and still hope, there would be no need for the other guys.
As for Peters, i was with you. I was against trading him... until i saw Wood play. The hard working farm boy kind of player is what we've desperately needed on our line and now can build off him.
Don't see it, he hasn't even flashed potential on the field, yet. The whole notion of waiting 32 games before judging a player is a myth, even players who took a long time to develop at least showed flashes along the way. Maybin has been no dimensional at this stage, he isn't good in the pass rush and he is an abomination against the run. He can't shed blockers and his only pass rush is a speed rush off the edge, in which case teams keep capitalizing on his speed rush and over pursuit by running off the tackles leaving tremendous lanes you could practically drive a truck through for the running back. Maybin has been a complete joke thus far, he is on the path to being a bust.
I'm not worried one bit. I guarantee Maybin will be a good player in this league. He is young and inexperienced and the intelligent posters on this board already knew that he wouldn't contribute much as a rookie. We picked him because there is potential that he is the better long term solution to our pass rushing ineptitude. Luckily Schobel and Kelsay have stepped it up this season.
Maybin also missed the entire camp. He's way behind. He's looked better the last few weeks, I think. Both games he would have had a sack had Schobel not beat him to it.
Originally posted by BillsZone Mod
cas,
I'm just letting you know that you have been given 2 points for telling Wys AKA Mark to kill himself.
I'll wait a while longer to make any sort of judgment.
Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?
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