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  • Bmax
    Registered User
    • Aug 2003
    • 1711
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    Just A thought when do you forgive

    I was just wondering by the posts of some of you when do you forgive someone for anything...In the case of Mike Vick....

    1. He did his time
    2. He is by all reports doing what he needs to do to stay in the league
    3. He has a right to make a living like any other person who has come back into society

    Tony Dungy-a Devout Christian is his adviser...Dungy is simply following his principles .. Second chances are an example of what we who believe should give our fellow men.. Vick has earned it ..

    The talk about him coming to Buffalo should be about his abilty to play football.

    Which is in question...

    If he comes to Buffalo it won't be via trade

    The Eagles are not going to pay him all that money next year so i expect him to be released..

    So the question should be do we pay a guy starter money to come here when he has not shown anything since his return ?

    If signed wherever he goes it will have to be a bonus based deal for two years with a thrid year option. The contract will be based on him starting ,winning games , making the playoffs and being named to the pro bowl.


    It would great if we could have a football conversation..

    That's were i'm at ...As a life long dog owner.. I was appalled by what he did ...He did however do his time and i believe he has started to make the changes in his life to be a better man...

    Tony Dungy a man with great integrity belief in him is enough for me.

    Should he come to Buffalo i am not sure about that .. But it won't be because of his past mistakes off the field. It will be because of his curent shortcomings on it.

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    Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.



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  • djjimkelly
    Registered User
    • Apr 2003
    • 7045
    #2
    Re: Just A thought when do you forgive

    i dont care about any off the field issues when it comes to vick

    i care that he isnt a very good qb great athlete but not a qb
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    • MassEffect218435
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      • Apr 2009
      • 493
      #3
      Re: Just A thought when do you forgive

      Honestly, I'm over what Vick did. He served his time to society and he appears to be sincere in his attempt to start his life over. I honestly hope he gets his life back in order, I don't think he's a bad guy, just not very smart.

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      • Bmax
        Registered User
        • Aug 2003
        • 1711
        #4
        Re: Just A thought when do you forgive

        Originally posted by Masseffect218345
        Honestly, I'm over what Vick did. He served his time to society and he appears to be sincere in his attempt to start his life over. I honestly hope he gets his life back in order, I don't think he's a bad guy, just not very smart.
        I would agree..He made some really bad choices...that doesn't even include his criminal acts...which he served time for....


        Let's hope he gets to play in some mop up situations so we can see if he has anything left....

        Bmax

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        • ddaryl
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          • Jan 2005
          • 10714
          #5
          Re: Just A thought when do you forgive

          I have no love for Mr. Vick, and I probably will never let what he did go. No different then any other violent felon out there for me.

          I loathe him as a human, and that will never change. He did what he did, and really hasn't done anything to amend for that.

          As for Dungy... it's his christian bible thumping crap that turns me off from him as a coach or caring about anything he says.
          Last edited by ddaryl; 11-09-2009, 11:15 AM.

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          • OpIv37
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            • Sep 2002
            • 101230
            #6
            Re: Just A thought when do you forgive

            1. I think Vick is a dirtbag for what he did.
            2. That being said, he did his time and he has the right to make a living, so it's time to let it go.
            3. I still don't want him on the Bills because he's just not a very good qb. All style, no substance.
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            • TheBrownBear
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              • Dec 2004
              • 1877
              #7
              Re: Just A thought when do you forgive

              I don't think Vick is a good guy who did a bad thing. I think he's just a bad seed. And worse, a bad seed with poor judgment. Dogs, drugs, Ron Mexico, flippin the bird to his own fans, jeez the list goes on and on. Why even get involved with a player like this? All he can do is drag this organization into the mud.

              Yes, he did his time and he's rightly a free man. But if I'm an employer, there's no way in hell I touch this guy.
              Last edited by TheBrownBear; 11-09-2009, 11:44 AM.
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              • Hemlepp53
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                • Jul 2004
                • 1455
                #8
                Re: Just A thought when do you forgive

                If we were able to 12-4 and get a Super Bowl win with Dante Stallworth, Mike Vick and OJ Simpson ... BRING EM ON... I am ready to WIN.... Whatever it takes to win

                With that said Vick isnt the answer.. but if he was I would be game with him being a Bill....
                @Hemlepp53

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                • justasportsfan
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 71579
                  #9
                  Re: Just A thought when do you forgive

                  we usually forgive them when we hire them.See TO.

                  When they leave they become idiots.
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                  • kernowboy
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                    Re: Just A thought when do you forgive

                    If he's not intelligent enough to realise that dog fighting is seriously illegal, he's not bright enough to be a starting QB

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                    • DMBcrew36
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 5096
                      #11
                      Re: Just A thought when do you forgive

                      Vick did his time and that is all you can ask, really. Let the man live his life.

                      That said, you can take a man out of the hood, but you can't take the hood out of a man. You can't change that he's a ghetto black man. He can only do his best to stay out of trouble and focus on his career.

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                      • Bmax
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 1711
                        #12
                        Re: Just A thought when do you forgive

                        Originally posted by ddaryl
                        I have no love for Mr. Vick, and I probably will never let what he did go. No different then any other violent felon out there for me.

                        I loathe him as a human, and that will never change. He did what he did, and really hasn't done anything to amend for that.

                        As for Dungy... it's his christian bible thumping crap that turns me off from him as a coach or caring about anything he says.

                        Well i have never known Dungy to force his his faith on anyone...We are free to express our beliefs...It's each person choice to accept and believe what he or she wants... That's what free will is all about...

                        I would rather have a man of principle like Dungy..a guy who gets the best out of people than Jauron who is clueless when it comes to leadership..



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                        • BillsWin
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                          • Oct 2008
                          • 6025
                          #13
                          Re: Just A thought when do you forgive

                          He sucks. Getting Vick would be another move strictly to sell tickets.
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                          • sdbillsfan2
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                            • Apr 2005
                            • 1164
                            #14
                            Re: Just A thought when do you forgive

                            Originally posted by justasportsfan
                            we usually forgive them when we hire them.See TO.

                            When they leave they become idiots.

                            What were TO's crimes against society ? An over blown ego is no where close to what Vick did time for !
                            Last edited by sdbillsfan2; 11-09-2009, 12:35 PM.

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                            • Luisito23
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                              • Apr 2003
                              • 7433
                              #15
                              Re: Just A thought when do you forgive

                              Originally posted by justasportsfan
                              we usually forgive them when we hire them.See TO.

                              When they leave they become idiots.

                              LOL, so true!
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