Thurm alludes to something going down today

[patmoran2006]

Something is going down at OBD, and Thurman Thomas mentioned it.

I wish I could break some news, but I cant.. I dont have it. But I am very confident something else significant is going to go down..

[Michael82]

:bigwave: Tom Modrak
:bigwave: John Guy

:pray:

[Pinkerton Security]

Something is going down at OBD, and Thurman Thomas mentioned it.

I wish I could break some news, but I cant.. I dont have it. But I am very confident something else significant is going to go down..

Like what? I know you dont have the specifics but what kinda things are possible? I dont think we'd hire a coach mid-season would we?

[patmoran2006]

This is what Thurman Thomas JUST said..

"Nobody is safe at One Bills Drive, they r cleaning house and bringing in a Football guy to run the ship. Jimbo say Ralph wil spend money!!!! "

[THATHURMANATOR]

SALE OF THE BILLS TO JIM KELLY'S GROUP.... COWHER HIRED AS COACH, AND POLIAN JR. TAKING OVER AS GM!!!!!!!!

[chernobylwraiths]

Something is going down at OBD, and Thurman Thomas mentioned it.

I wish I could break some news, but I cant.. I dont have it. But I am very confident something else significant is going to go down..
This sounds like one of Patti's posts.

[The King]

I think we do start talking to coaches mid season. Fewells that's between Mr. Wilson and I remarks seem to allude to something else.

[RockStar36]

These posts are aggravating.

We can all read Thurman's Twitter. Otherwise, you're breaking no news at all.

Or do you have to wait for ESPN or someone else to break it first?

[trapezeus]

if the bills hire a real coach right now, i'm going to write Discotrish a PM asking for a wood stove salesperson because the end times really will be here. :-)

And you know what? i'm ready for the end times if it means we get a superbowl coach and a real legit level of play for the next few years.

[THATHURMANATOR]

These posts are aggravating.

We can all read Thurman's Twitter. Otherwise, you're breaking no news at all.

Or do you have to wait for ESPN or someone else to break it first?
What about those who think Twitter is gay and don't follow it... What about us Dev :(

[Michael82]

I was reading his twitter and I am so excited! Looks like we are getting exactly what we wanted, a total house cleaning. Get rid of all of them and start fresh with a young up and coming GM and a new head coach.

:jig:

[THATHURMANATOR]

if the bills hire a real coach right now, i'm going to write Discotrish a PM asking for a wood stove salesperson because the end times really will be here. :-)

And you know what? i'm ready for the end times if it means we get a superbowl coach and a real legit level of play for the next few years.
LOL!!!

[patmoran2006]

These posts are aggravating.

We can all read Thurman's Twitter. Otherwise, you're breaking no news at all.

Or do you have to wait for ESPN or someone else to break it first?

Who said anything that I was 'breaking any news"

Some people dont have twitter btw.

And I think the title was pretty self explanatory

[Michael82]

if the bills hire a real coach right now, i'm going to write Discotrish a PM asking for a wood stove salesperson because the end times really will be here. :-)

And you know what? i'm ready for the end times if it means we get a superbowl coach and a real legit level of play for the next few years.

With our luck, we make it to the Super Bowl and then the world ends right in the middle of it, as the score is tied with 5 minutes to go. :ill:

[trapezeus]

These posts are aggravating.

We can all read Thurman's Twitter. Otherwise, you're breaking no news at all.

Or do you have to wait for ESPN or someone else to break it first?

i don't read much into thurm's quote from twitter. Whenever you see Kelly talk about the team, he's a little more laid back and thoughtful. When Thurman talks about the team, he's very emotional. So if jim told him that the plan is to make changes (which Jim already said) then I'm guessing Thurman just took the news and ran with it (how very 1990's of him). I don't think he knows any more or any less.

Now if kelly says something like, "they are definitely working on it." then i'm going to assume something is going down as we speak. i think they have to take more than a week to figure out who they want, no? no one else is hiring right now. we have time on our side.

Russ brandon has Ralphs ear. he has to get this right or the next one to fall will be him. So I'd think Russ will want to look at all his options and get it right.

[hydro]

These posts are aggravating.

We can all read Thurman's Twitter. Otherwise, you're breaking no news at all.

Or do you have to wait for ESPN or someone else to break it first?

I don't have twitter so we all can't read his page. I don't really understand the animosity.

[RockStar36]

What about those who think Twitter is gay and don't follow it... What about us Dev :(

Then that is your problem.

You can think Twitter is gay and all, but I don't understand how you can say that and still hang out at a message board. It's practically the same thing. Except you can get athletes/celebs/writers and read their stuff too.

[DraftBoy]

It doesnt matter for christ sakes people, calm down. Thurman Thomas can say all he wants, but it doesnt mean anything until action is taken.

This always happens, the Bills make some type of a move, then fan base gets over excited and expects everything to happen instantly.

[Pinkerton Security]

I don't have twitter so we all can't read his page. I don't really understand the animosity.

indeed, I am enjoying the posts, thanks Pat! you're getting me really fired up!!!!

[hydro]

Then that is your problem.

You can think Twitter is gay and all, but I don't understand how you can say that and still hang out at a message board. It's practically the same thing. Except you can get athletes/celebs/writers and read their stuff too.

First it was Myspace then it was Facebook and now it is twitter. When will the madness stop! I hate having to check out the lastest and greatest things on a thousand different sites. Billszone works quite well for getting all the information I crave. If people like Madness and Pat like to post from all the news they see on a certain website, all the better for the late or never adopters of new sites like Twitter.

[RockStar36]

I don't have twitter so we all can't read his page. I don't really understand the animosity.

First of all, it isn't true animosity.

It's just there is zero point to this thread. It's getting everyone worked up over nothing at all.

Second, I just don't like these threads that he is "confident" something else is going down. The next step to this is something going down, being reported by a major news outlet, then Pat reporting it. OR...nothing going down and him saying "I never said for sure".

And for the record, sites like Facebook and Twitter and things of that nature are a huge reason why message boards are dying out. Or at least this one.

[chernobylwraiths]

Then that is your problem.

You can think Twitter is gay and all, but I don't understand how you can say that and still hang out at a message board. It's practically the same thing. Except you can get athletes/celebs/writers and read their stuff too.

Thurm is a puzzle wrapped in a riddle surrounded by an enigma.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Then that is your problem.

You can think Twitter is gay and all, but I don't understand how you can say that and still hang out at a message board. It's practically the same thing. Except you can get athletes/celebs/writers and read their stuff too.
Because I am already here ANNND on Facebook. Don't need another thing with updates telling me they just brushed their teeth and took a ****.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Thurm is a puzzle wrapped in a riddle surrounded by an enigma.
Yes don't try to understand me. It won't make sense.

[RockStar36]

Because I am already here ANNND on Facebook. Don't need another thing with updates telling me they just brushed their teeth and took a ****.

Personally, I'd rather go for the source. I can sit on BZ all day and hope people post things that someone says but have to weed it out with all the spam and crackpot theories OR I can be on Twitter and just read exactly what Thurman Thomas says. I'd rather cut out the middle man.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Personally, I'd rather go for the source. I can sit on BZ all day and hope people post things that someone says but have to weed it out with all the spam and crackpot theories OR I can be on Twitter and just read exactly what Thurman Thomas says. I'd rather cut out the middle man.
Well I would rather get it through the Billszone and I am the only thing that matters to ME!

[THATHURMANATOR]

I don't have twitter so we all can't read his page. I don't really understand the animosity.
Charles I think it may be a fued between Sports websites. Moran Vs Lunn/Dev

[Forward_Lateral]

RS, who pissed in your cornflakes?

[RockStar36]

Charles I think it may be a fued between Sports websites. Moran Vs Lunn/Dev

There is no feud at all.

Our sites are completely different.

[THATHURMANATOR]

There is no feud at all.

Our sites are completely different.
And very good sites I must add!!!! I enjoy both!

[RockStar36]

RS, who pissed in your cornflakes?

All of the people suggesting the equivalent of Jim Haslett for the next HC.

[chernobylwraiths]

Yes don't try to understand me. It won't make sense.

When I first saw this thread, I was wondering where you got your information to allude to anything.

[DraftBoy]

All of the people suggesting the equivalent of Jim Haslett for the next HC.

I agree we don't need an experienced Head Coach for this team. Those people don't know what they are talking about.

[chernobylwraiths]

All of the people suggesting the equivalent of Jim Haslett for the next HC.

yeah, that wouldn't be good IMO

[Forward_Lateral]

All of the people suggesting the equivalent of Jim Haslett for the next HC.

OK, I forgive you then. I try not to read those ******ed threads, but I know, it's like a train wreck, sometimes you can't help but look.

[chernobylwraiths]

I agree we don't need an experienced Head Coach for this team. Those people don't know what they are talking about.

Jauron was an experienced Head Coach that had a winning season.

[THATHURMANATOR]

I agree we don't need an experienced Head Coach for this team. Those people don't know what they are talking about.
Ok man sure lets go ahead and go for another UNPROVEN guy instead of a guy WE KNOW will be good. Sure the OC/DC may turn out being good but why risk it?????

[RockStar36]

I love when people beg for information, and Pat busts his ass getting it for us and making sure we are updated and then people grill him for it.

What?

Do I beg him for it? Am I grilling him? No on both counts.

I was simply bringing up that I have yet to see him "break" any news. This thread was getting everyone all worked up and it was a simple copy/paste from Thurman's Twitter.

[BAM]

I sense a lot of jeal..animosity towards Pat from a hand full of posters. The guy's just doing his thing don't let it get to ya... or simply skip over or ignore him if it's aggrovating. I, for one, enjoy reading the guy's site... much more than some others out there.

[BuffaloBlakely14]

These posts are aggravating.

We can all read Thurman's Twitter. Otherwise, you're breaking no news at all.

Or do you have to wait for ESPN or someone else to break it first?

I love when people on this board beg for information (not saying you do), and Pat busts his ass trying to get it for us, and then people grill him for it.

[methos4ever]

Ok man sure lets go ahead and go for another UNPROVEN guy instead of a guy WE KNOW will be good. Sure the OC/DC may turn out being good but why risk it?????
Being risk averse is what got us in this situation. If you get a DeCosta and he decides a Coord like Frasier for instance is the guy we need, then you have a GM who developed in a SB-winning environment, a HC who was a coordinator of a good defense and as a player won a SB on one of the greatest defenses in NFL history. From there, trust that they can get a capable OC / DC moreso than the prior regime. Heck Jimmy Raye's kicking butt over in SF and he's like 90.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Being risk averse is what got us in this situation. If you get a DeCosta and he decides a Coord like Frasier for instance is the guy we need, then you have a GM who developed in a SB-winning environment, a HC who was a coordinator of a good defense and as a player won a SB on one of the greatest defenses in NFL history. From there, trust that they can get a capable OC / DC moreso than the prior regime. Heck Jimmy Raye's kicking butt over in SF and he's like 90.
I suppose but I am nervous. I want as close to a sure thing as possible.

[DraftBoy]

Ok man sure lets go ahead and go for another UNPROVEN guy instead of a guy WE KNOW will be good. Sure the OC/DC may turn out being good but why risk it?????


Jauron was proven.

And who do you know that will be good?

[DraftBoy]

Being risk averse is what got us in this situation. If you get a DeCosta and he decides a Coord like Frasier for instance is the guy we need, then you have a GM who developed in a SB-winning environment, a HC who was a coordinator of a good defense and as a player won a SB on one of the greatest defenses in NFL history. From there, trust that they can get a capable OC / DC moreso than the prior regime. Heck Jimmy Raye's kicking butt over in SF and he's like 90.


Perfect scenario.

[unpaid_bills]

Then that is your problem.

You can think Twitter is gay and all, but I don't understand how you can say that and still hang out at a message board. It's practically the same thing. Except you can get athletes/celebs/writers and read their stuff too.

Maybe you are both gay and should hook up:nono:
We are not the "bickering Bills"

[RockStar36]

I sense a lot of jeal..animosity towards Pat from a hand full of posters. The guy's just doing his thing don't let it get to ya... or simply skip over or ignore him if it's aggrovating. I, for one, enjoy reading the guy's site... much more than some others out there.

Thanks for editing your post.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Jauron was proven.

Excuse me?

[THATHURMANATOR]

Jauron was proven.

And who do you know that will be good?
DB please.... I am talking Cowher, Shannahan, Holmgren here. Don't tell me Jauron was proven in comparison.

[RockStar36]

DB please.... I am talking Cowher, Shannahan, Holmgren here. Don't tell me Jauron was proven in comparison.

He's just being his typical old difficult self, trying to start a fight with everybody and keeping the fight going.

[THATHURMANATOR]

He's just being his typical old difficult self, trying to start a fight with everybody and keeping the fight going.
DB STOP IT!

I will say I could be fine with a Top DC/OC candidate but don't hate me for wanting a proven guy.

[DraftBoy]

He's just being his typical old difficult self, trying to start a fight with everybody and keeping the fight going.


Yes clearly, because I was the one who chose to resort to childish insults, as opposed to simply posting an opinion.

[DraftBoy]

DB STOP IT!

I will say I could be fine with a Top DC/OC candidate but don't hate me for wanting a proven guy.

I dont hate you, Im simply disagreeing with your opinion.

I can't control RS's dislike for me, if he doesn't want to discuss it, he doesn't have to, but that's certainly not going to stop me for posting my opinion.

[THATHURMANATOR]

I dont hate you, Im simply disagreeing with your opinion.

I can't control RS's dislike for me, if he doesn't want to discuss it, he doesn't have to, but that's certainly not going to stop me for posting my opinion.
Well would you be unhappy to get Cowher as the coach?

[RockStar36]

I dont hate you, Im simply disagreeing with your opinion.

I can't control RS's dislike for me, if he doesn't want to discuss it, he doesn't have to, but that's certainly not going to stop me for posting my opinion.

I don't dislike you, I just completely disagree with you.

You're influenced by living down in ATL and seeing the coordinator route work. After a decade of losing, I don't want to see them take that chance again. Especially when you consider that the Falcons also got Matt Ryan in the draft, what are the odds that the Bills score a new QB that good?

[Pinkerton Security]

Excuse me?

lol yeah not sure how that one slipped through the cracks here..

[Dr. Lecter]

Everybody take a midol, step back and relax.

[Bills Juggernaut]

Why is everyone hatin' on each other?

[trapezeus]

because yesterday was a day of detente since it was such exciting news. now we are all back to business as normal until they tell us one of these big name guys is our guy.

[DraftBoy]

Well would you be unhappy to get Cowher as the coach?

I wouldn't be unhappy, I just dont think its the best route.

[DraftBoy]

I don't dislike you, I just completely disagree with you.

You're influenced by living down in ATL and seeing the coordinator route work. After a decade of losing, I don't want to see them take that chance again. Especially when you consider that the Falcons also got Matt Ryan in the draft, what are the odds that the Bills score a new QB that good?


Which is fine and its not the influence of living in Atlanta. The same thing has worked countless times.

BAL, MIA, IND, ARI, PIT, PHI the coordinator to HC transition does work. Its not all about Matt Ryan or getting the right QB. Its about getting the right GM and HC into Buffalo. Its not a one or the other type of a deal.

[elltrain22]

:bigwave: Tom Modrak
:bigwave: John Guy

:pray:

Right there w/ you

[Dr. Lecter]

Which is fine and its not the influence of living in Atlanta. The same thing has worked countless times.

BAL, MIA, IND, ARI, PIT, PHI the coordinator to HC transition does work. Its not all about Matt Ryan or getting the right QB. Its about getting the right GM and HC into Buffalo. Its not a one or the other type of a deal.

Matt Ryan??

Atlanta didn't draft Ryan, did they?

[Nighthawk]

Anybody else think it's weird that Jim Kelly seems to have a direct link to what is going on in that organization? I don't know, but it seems like he is way more connected then a person who isn't really involved should be. Could this be a sign that he actually has a bigger role then we might know of right now? I hope so...

[Dr. Lecter]

Anybody else think it's weird that Jim Kelly seems to have a direct link to what is going on in that organization? I don't know, but it seems like he is way more connected then a person who isn't really involved should be. Could this be a sign that he actually has a bigger role then we might know of right now? I hope so...

Jim Kelly is on the payroll as a "consultant".

I heard this somewhere a month or so ago. Can't remember where though. Maybe 97 Rock's pre-game show?

[THATHURMANATOR]

Matt Ryan??

Atlanta didn't draft Ryan, did they?
They didnt?

[Dr. Lecter]

They didnt?

Ask DraftBoy.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Ask DraftBoy.
What?

[Novacane]

Jauron was proven.

And who do you know that will be good?



Good point. He was a proven loser. And he continued losing. Now lets go get a proven winner who will continue winning :up:

[Demon]

It doesnt matter for christ sakes people, calm down. Thurman Thomas can say all he wants, but it doesnt mean anything until action is taken.

This always happens, the Bills make some type of a move, then fan base gets over excited and expects everything to happen instantly.

But, Thomas isn't stating his opinion. He said, from what he's heard, something big is going to happen today. Then later he said, they are cleaning house, nobody is safe, and Jimbo says Ralph will spend $$$. Those are not his words, his opinions... it's what he's been told. That is more credibility to those tweets then any person on this forum. If you don't want to believe it, sure. Obviously it's all rumors until they actually do something.

But, they did fire Dick Jauron so it's not like their not doing anything and just waiting til the season ends.

[trapezeus]

Anybody else think it's weird that Jim Kelly seems to have a direct link to what is going on in that organization? I don't know, but it seems like he is way more connected then a person who isn't really involved should be. Could this be a sign that he actually has a bigger role then we might know of right now? I hope so...

Well he has his article that he does on their site. I'm sure he knows the majority of the people there and gets good information.

I think you are right. if he does have a bigger role it totally adds credence to his purchaser plans.

[Nighthawk]

Jim Kelly is on the payroll as a "consultant".

I heard this somewhere a month or so ago. Can't remember where though. Maybe 97 Rock's pre-game show?

Hmmm, didn't hear that...but that could explain it. However, what is he consulting about...the sale of the franchise? :D

[THATHURMANATOR]

Hmmm, didn't hear that...but that could explain it. However, what is he consulting about...the sale of the franchise? :D
Yes.

[Mr. Pink]

So Thurm, what's going down today man?

What's the scoop?

:rofl:

[mybills]

post # 74..well?

[THATHURMANATOR]

So Thurm, what's going down today man?

What's the scoop?

:rofl:
You will have to check my twitter.

[jimbohastle51]

Marty shottenhiemer i will bet anything. About the only good football mind out there who wilson would be comfortable giving control to as he has played here before and has ties to mr wilson and the area

[tampabay25690]

SALE OF THE BILLS TO JIM KELLY'S GROUP.... COWHER HIRED AS COACH, AND POLIAN JR. TAKING OVER AS GM!!!!!!!!

Thurm was that during your WET DREAM!!!!!
Sounds great though..

[BuffaloBlitz83]

DB, the majority of those Coordinator to HC moves are made by solid teams that are not bottom tier teams. Teams that already are proven teams, switching at the guard. Philly, Pitt, Balt, Indy

[Mr. Pink]

You will have to check my twitter.


I do not do lame crap like twitter sir!

[split71]

Marty shottenhiemer i will bet anything. About the only good football mind out there who wilson would be comfortable giving control to as he has played here before and has ties to mr wilson and the area

That's my pick...

[THATHURMANATOR]

So Thurm, what's going down today man?

What's the scoop?

:rofl:
RS is going to be PPIIIIIIISSSSED.

[BertSquirtgum]

These posts are aggravating.

We can all read Thurman's Twitter. Otherwise, you're breaking no news at all.

Or do you have to wait for ESPN or someone else to break it first?

i don't read twitter so it was news to me. thanks pat.

[jimbohastle51]

That's my pick...
He is really the only pick. No way shanahan or holmgren are coming. Ralph pay be willing to pay but i doubt the 8 million a year those 2 will ask for and marty has ties here and hasnt had a ton of opportunities since he left SD

[User Manuel]

SALE OF THE BILLS TO JIM KELLY'S GROUP.... COWHER HIRED AS COACH, AND POLIAN JR. TAKING OVER AS GM!!!!!!!!

Have you seen Brian Polians special teams at ND, I'll pass on anyone named Polian that is not THEEEE Bill Polian.

[RockStar36]

Which is fine and its not the influence of living in Atlanta. The same thing has worked countless times.

BAL, MIA, IND, ARI, PIT, PHI the coordinator to HC transition does work. Its not all about Matt Ryan or getting the right QB. Its about getting the right GM and HC into Buffalo. Its not a one or the other type of a deal.

What is the key thing with all of the teams listed above?

[realdealryan]

SALE OF THE BILLS TO JIM KELLY'S GROUP.... COWHER HIRED AS COACH, AND POLIAN JR. TAKING OVER AS GM!!!!!!!!


/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\

I'll have one of what he's having!

[Forward_Lateral]

You can't count Indy and Pittsburgh, IMO. Both were co-ordinators with that team before they became head coaches, and both stepped into an already established, elite team.

[realdealryan]

What is the key thing with all of the teams listed above?

Success at varied levels with varied systems?

decent young qb with a great d last year, no qb with a great run game, best qb ever, great vet qb, above average qb with a great d, randomly good qb with a solid d until this year

[Canadian'eh!]

Tomlin was an assistant with Minny before he got the Pitt job.


Caldwell was the assistant head coach in Indy though

[DraftBoy]

What is the key thing with all of the teams listed above?

Great Front Offices

[DraftBoy]

You can't count Indy and Pittsburgh, IMO. Both were co-ordinators with that team before they became head coaches, and both stepped into an already established, elite team.

Neither had prior HC coaching experience. Just because you walk into an elite team doesn't mean you will automatically win.

[realdealryan]

surprise surprise, Thurm is hooked up

[RockStar36]

Great Front Offices

Thank you.

Something Buffalo is currently lacking.

[DraftBoy]

Thank you.

Something Buffalo is currently lacking.


You won't find somebody in more agreement with you than me on that. I can't stand our FO, and haven't been able to since Butler left.

I don't want a HC who also wants Personnel power, I dont think that's a good idea at all.

[dannyek71]

Why would Thurman Thomas be privy to this information? When did he start working for the Bills?

[realdealryan]

Why would Thurman Thomas be privy to this information? When did he start working for the Bills?

Living. Buffalo. Legend.

[ParanoidAndroid]

With our luck, we make it to the Super Bowl and then the world ends right in the middle of it, as the score is tied with 5 minutes to go. :ill:

I was thinking the same thing... kinda... except we are up by 10 with 30 seconds to go and everything stops moving.

[ParanoidAndroid]

You won't find somebody in more agreement with you than me on that. I can't stand our FO, and haven't been able to since Butler left.

I don't want a HC who also wants Personnel power, I dont think that's a good idea at all.

Holmgren

[Mr. Pink]

Neither had prior HC coaching experience. Just because you walk into an elite team doesn't mean you will automatically win.


Name a coach who walked into an elite team that didn't win right away.

[Ed]

Name a coach who walked into an elite team that didn't win right away.
Norv Turner?

[DraftBoy]

So was this the big something going down? A whole bunch of nothing??

Thanks Thurman and Twitter!

[RockStar36]

So was this the big something going down? A whole bunch of nothing??

Thanks Thurman and Twitter!

Actually...

This is REALLY big. Especially one day later and in the middle of the season.