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billistic
11-27-2009, 02:05 PM
Modrak: He got Lee Evans for the Bills in the 2004 draft, and added JP Losman, the Tims (Anderson and Euhus), topped off by Dylan McFarland and Jonathan Smith. Having traded up for Losman, Modrak used the Bills top choice (round 2, pick 55) on Roscoe Parrish in 2005. If you want to get picky, Tom Passed on Haloti Ngata for the 2006 #8 pick, and took Donte Whitner instead. That perhaps might have been a slight mistake. Only time will tell...
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John Guy: Consolidated Dick Jauron's conversion of the Bills defense to the Tampa 2 scheme by bringing in Jeff Posey, and together with Modrak's savvy trade into the 2006 1st round for John McCargo, the Bills defense has since been the terror of the AFC East.
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yordad
11-27-2009, 02:09 PM
LOL, what? Where is the nice part? You mean "Make up something fictional but nice"?

billistic
11-27-2009, 02:14 PM
John Guy has also brought in Tutan Reyes, Dominick Rhodes, LanstonWalker, Derrick Dockery and a host of other notable Bills performers.

Prov401
11-27-2009, 02:25 PM
I'm really not sure what this thread is trying to convey here. Either the title is misleading, or you have absolutley no idea how much every single player up there that you named (other than Lee and Donte), absolutley sucke(d).

billistic
11-27-2009, 02:49 PM
I'm really not sure what this thread is trying to convey here. Either the title is misleading, or you have absolutely no idea how much every single player up there that you named (other than Lee and Donte), absolutely sucke(d).

Nothing is ever black and white. We're all lost in a universe filled with shades of gray. Perhaps Aaron Maybin may become the Dwight Freeney of his time. Perhaps James Hardy may become another Vincent Jackson. Perhaps someday Chris Ellis may not become just another healthy game day scratch.

I don't have the answers, but you do...

yordad
11-27-2009, 02:52 PM
LOL, what(?)..... again? LOL, for some reason this is funny. Funny but sad. :(

billistic
11-27-2009, 03:00 PM
LOL, what(?)..... again? LOL, for some reason this is funny. Funny but sad. :(

I think it's more poignant than either funny or sad.

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malo
11-27-2009, 03:07 PM
They are good at sucking.

BADTHINGSMAN
11-27-2009, 03:07 PM
:popcorn:

Michael82
11-27-2009, 03:26 PM
Sorry, I can't. :(

Ingtar33
11-27-2009, 03:40 PM
Modrak helped TD let Winfield and Williams leave via free agency. what a great move! Our run defense has been stellar ever since! And they only combined for 8 probowls in the 5 years since they left! Overpaid, overpriced, overhyped!

Ebenezer
11-27-2009, 03:42 PM
Modrak helped TD let Winfield and Williams leave via free agency. what a great move! Our run defense has been stellar ever since! And they only combined for 8 probowls in the 5 years since they left! Overpaid, overpriced, overhyped!
the bills did not have the cap room to match the deal winfield got in minnesota

Ingtar33
11-27-2009, 03:44 PM
the bills did not have the cap room to match the deal winfield got in minnesota


in all seriousness... Winfield should never been allowed to get to FA. They should have extended him a year before (same for big pat)

billistic
11-27-2009, 03:50 PM
Pat Williams got low-balled out of town by the same sheets that brought us John McCargo and Jeff Posey. What else needs to be said?

Ebenezer
11-27-2009, 03:52 PM
in all seriousness... Winfield should never been allowed to get to FA. They should have extended him a year before (same for big pat)
that is true....but an offer may have been extended and he may have balked.

billistic
11-27-2009, 03:59 PM
that is true....but an offer may have been extended and he may have balked.

And Antoine certainly made the right choice to ditch the sucky Bills. Go Pat Williams, go Vikings!

Go Jabari Greer! Go Anthony Hargrove! Geaux Saints!

Where's the honor in going down with a sinking, stinking garbage barge?

Ingtar33
11-27-2009, 04:04 PM
that is true....but an offer may have been extended and he may have balked.


It was a matter of priorities... the bills spent money in places they never should have. I think the best example of that was one of TD's first moves when he chose Moulds over Marcellus Wiley.

Yeah... i know Wiley's career was shortened by injury. But he chose a Wr (i don't care how good) over a 10+ sack a year DE. 10+ sacks in a 34 defense. 80+ reception WRs are a dime a dozen. 10+ sack DEs in a 34 scheme are beyond rare. (name one other then Bruce Smith)

It was an emphasis on razzle dazzle over the "lines" that has killed this team over the last decade.

DraftBoy
11-27-2009, 04:14 PM
It was a matter of priorities... the bills spent money in places they never should have. I think the best example of that was one of TD's first moves when he chose Moulds over Marcellus Wiley.

Yeah... i know Wiley's career was shortened by injury. But he chose a Wr (i don't care how good) over a 10+ sack a year DE. 10+ sacks in a 34 defense. 80+ reception WRs are a dime a dozen. 10+ sack DEs in a 34 scheme are beyond rare. (name one other then Bruce Smith)

It was an emphasis on razzle dazzle over the "lines" that has killed this team over the last decade.


You could expand that to say that the razzle dazzle has been chosen over fundamental football.

ArcticWildMan
11-27-2009, 04:16 PM
You could expand that to say that the razzle dazzle has been chosen over fundamental football.


AMEN!!!

billistic
11-27-2009, 05:12 PM
Willis McGahee, anyone? That was certainly sound thinking. What's a season without a top pick in the draft here or there, when you haven't been to the playoffs in a decade. Let's not be short sighted.

Modrack and Guy have the long range, bigger picture in mind...

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YardRat
11-27-2009, 05:30 PM
Nothing is ever black and white. We're all lost in a universe filled with shades of gray. Perhaps Aaron Maybin may become the Dwight Freeney of his time. Perhaps James Hardy may become another Vincent Jackson. Perhaps someday Chris Ellis may not become just another healthy game day scratch.

I don't have the answers, but you do...

Everything is black and white.

Gray areas only exist because of lack of knowledge, mis-perception and/or deception.

Nice use of sarcasm in the OP, though.

billistic
11-27-2009, 06:28 PM
Everything is black and white.

Gray areas only exist because of lack of knowledge, mis-perception and/or deception.

Nice use of sarcasm in the OP, though.

As Bertrand Russell said: "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are (a word for the male chicken...no, not rooster)sure and the intelligent are full of doubt."

jamze132
11-27-2009, 08:40 PM
I wonder what our "talent evaluators" would look like if we had a competent coaching staff.

YardRat
11-27-2009, 09:10 PM
As Bertrand Russell said: "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are (a word for the male chicken...no, not rooster)sure and the intelligent are full of doubt."

Because the intelligent continue to search for the answers and eliminate the gray areas.

Beastie Bills
11-27-2009, 10:39 PM
Modrak: He got Lee Evans for the Bills in the 2004 draft, and added JP Losman, the Tims (Anderson and Euhus), topped off by Dylan McFarland and Jonathan Smith. Having traded up for Losman, Modrak used the Bills top choice (round 2, pick 55) on Roscoe Parrish in 2005. If you want to get picky, Tom Passed on Haloti Ngata for the 2006 #8 pick, and took Donte Whitner instead. That perhaps might have been a slight mistake. Only time will tell...

His high point was drafting Evans. Ugh...that's not saying much.


And I hope the "slight mistake" comment was sarcasm. It was a HUGE mistake. DT was our biggest need when we drafted Whitner, and Ngata is a dominant DT (he has as many career INT's as *****ner too).

billistic
11-27-2009, 10:42 PM
Because the intelligent continue to search for the answers and eliminate the gray areas.
So that's what happened...nice eliminating. What hat size do you wear now?
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billistic
11-27-2009, 10:55 PM
His high point was drafting Evans. Ugh...that's not saying much.


And I hope the "slight mistake" comment was sarcasm. It was a HUGE mistake. DT was our biggest need when we drafted Whitner, and Ngata is a dominant DT (he has as many career INT's as *****ner too).
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Jan Reimers
11-28-2009, 08:22 AM
They're not ax murderers.

yordad
11-28-2009, 09:08 AM
It was a matter of priorities... the bills spent money in places they never should have. I think the best example of that was one of TD's first moves when he chose Moulds over Marcellus Wiley.

Yeah... i know Wiley's career was shortened by injury. But he chose a Wr (i don't care how good) over a 10+ sack a year DE. 10+ sacks in a 34 defense. 80+ reception WRs are a dime a dozen. 10+ sack DEs in a 34 scheme are beyond rare. (name one other then Bruce Smith)

It was an emphasis on razzle dazzle over the "lines" that has killed this team over the last decade.Dude, Moulds was one of the most talented WRs EVER.