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  • Nighthawk
    Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
    • Jul 2002
    • 15437

    Great Article by Nick Bakay

    He hits the ball out of the park with this article. Oh, and he must not be a "real fan" because he actually was/is rooting for them to lose because he wants somebody to come in here and clean house and not keep the cheap alternative...Perry Fewell. I love what he had to say about getting a good football man in here to run the show and the possibility of bringing in Russ Grimm. I would not hate that at all...as long as a REAL football man is pulling the trigger on the next HC, then I can live with it.

    Memo to Ralph Wilson: Even if your Buffalo Bills win by seven touchdowns Thursday night on NFL Network, don't let that fool you. This team is in dire need of a major facelift.
  • naugem
    Registered User
    • Mar 2004
    • 164

    #2
    Re: Great Article by Nick Bakay

    Great article! I think I agree with all of it, except with the rooting to lose part, I just can't do that.
    Very funny by the way.

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    • MikeInRoch
      Registered User
      • Sep 2003
      • 10446

      #3
      Re: Great Article by Nick Bakay

      No real fan roots for their team to lose. Period.
      "'Clean up your room.', 'Stand up straight.', 'Pick up your feet.', 'Take it like a man.', 'Be nice to your sister.', 'Don't mix beer and wine, ever.'. Oh yeah, 'Don't drive on the railroad track.'"

      "Eh, Phil. That's one I happen to agree with."

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      • Nighthawk
        Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
        • Jul 2002
        • 15437

        #4
        Re: Great Article by Nick Bakay

        Originally posted by MikeInRoch
        No real fan roots for their team to lose. Period.
        Yep, you're right...a person isn't a fan if they want what's best for their team. Yep..
        Last edited by Nighthawk; 12-02-2009, 06:06 PM.

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        • Nighthawk
          Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
          • Jul 2002
          • 15437

          #5
          Re: Great Article by Nick Bakay

          Originally posted by naugem
          Great article! I think I agree with all of it, except with the rooting to lose part, I just can't do that.
          Very funny by the way.
          No true fan is rooting for their team to lose...their rooting for change!

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          • THATHURMANATOR
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 69112

            #6
            Re: Great Article by Nick Bakay

            Originally posted by Nighthawk
            Yep, you're right...a person isn't a fan if they want what's best for their team. Yep..
            I wouldn't say you wouldn't be a fan to root for losses but I want a winning culture built. I am pretty sure they will do whatever they can to bring in a real coach so I am not worried.

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            • MikeInRoch
              Registered User
              • Sep 2003
              • 10446

              #7
              Re: Great Article by Nick Bakay

              I suppose you are right. Rooting for losses when you believe it will better the team may not mean you aren't a fan. It might mean you are just a stupid fan.
              "'Clean up your room.', 'Stand up straight.', 'Pick up your feet.', 'Take it like a man.', 'Be nice to your sister.', 'Don't mix beer and wine, ever.'. Oh yeah, 'Don't drive on the railroad track.'"

              "Eh, Phil. That's one I happen to agree with."

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              • Demon
                Registered User
                • Mar 2003
                • 4047

                #8
                Re: Great Article by Nick Bakay

                Can't take this too seriously.

                First of all, Nick Bakay is a clown. He's comedy first and that's how he's managed to make his air time on ESPN. Not sure i ever took any of his serious comments seriously.

                Ron Wolf? I liked the idea several years ago when we talked to him about the GM post... i believe it was when we hired Donahoe, but not sure. Wolf is 70 years old. He's been away from football for almost a decade. The league has changed. Styles have changed. Just ask Washington how the Joe Gibbs come back worked out. Or better yet, see how the Bills are doing after a Marv Levy comeback?

                He pointed out all the obvious flaws in Bills football. Sure, i give him credit for putting it into writing for everyone to read. He didn't say anything in that article that wasn't posted on this forum.

                I like Russ Grimm and wouldn't mind him being named with the right process and get interviewed by the right guy... however, Bakay's reasoning for it is just stupid. Sign him up because he's got a connection to the Steelers and Steelers > Bills? Um ok.
                Impossible is Nothing.


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                • tampabay25690
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 9670

                  #9
                  Re: Great Article by Nick Bakay

                  Originally posted by Demon
                  Can't take this too seriously.

                  First of all, Nick Bakay is a clown. He's comedy first and that's how he's managed to make his air time on ESPN. Not sure i ever took any of his serious comments seriously.

                  Ron Wolf? I liked the idea several years ago when we talked to him about the GM post... i believe it was when we hired Donahoe, but not sure. Wolf is 70 years old. He's been away from football for almost a decade. The league has changed. Styles have changed. Just ask Washington how the Joe Gibbs come back worked out. Or better yet, see how the Bills are doing after a Marv Levy comeback?

                  He pointed out all the obvious flaws in Bills football. Sure, i give him credit for putting it into writing for everyone to read. He didn't say anything in that article that wasn't posted on this forum.

                  I like Russ Grimm and wouldn't mind him being named with the right process and get interviewed by the right guy... however, Bakay's reasoning for it is just stupid. Sign him up because he's got a connection to the Steelers and Steelers > Bills? Um ok.
                  He is a Buffalo guy
                  GO Gators!!!!!!
                  GO GATORS!!

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                  • Joe Fo Sho
                    Making Spirits Bright
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 6194

                    #10
                    Re: Great Article by Nick Bakay

                    The f*** is a "real" fan?

                    I understand as much as anybody that the Bills are potentially better off losing and getting a better coach and a better draft pick. In the days coming up to the game, I am hoping that they lose.

                    Come gametime, I can't root for the Bills to lose. I can't hope Jackson fumbles, I can't hope Fitzel throws a pick six, I can't hope Lindell misses a game winning kick, I can't root for the opposition, no matter who they are.

                    What kind of fan does that make me?

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                    • Demon
                      Registered User
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 4047

                      #11
                      Re: Great Article by Nick Bakay

                      Originally posted by tampabay25690
                      He is a Buffalo guy
                      Yeah, i know who he is. He's a clown.
                      Impossible is Nothing.


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                      • Meathead
                        Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 21349

                        #12
                        Re: Great Article by Nick Bakay

                        very talented writer thats for sure. nice work

                        hes as comfortable with his unfanness as i am
                        One set of rules for all in the beloved community

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                        • psubills62
                          Legendary Zoner
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 11295

                          #13
                          Re: Great Article by Nick Bakay

                          Originally posted by Nighthawk
                          Yep, you're right...a person isn't a fan if they want what's best for their team. Yep..
                          I don't think your point (i.e. rooting for them to lose means you want them to get better) is valid for a couple reasons.

                          First of all, Fewell might turn out to be a decent coach. I'm not in any way advocating him as a permanent hire, but he might end up being a decent HC one day.

                          Secondly, Wilson specifically went out and made waves with big names right after firing Jauron. Unless Fewell runs the table, I don't see Wilson being satisfied with just hiring Fewell.

                          Thirdly, how exactly does rooting for the team to lose actually help them lose? Your rooting either way has ZERO effect on the outcome of the games. Why not just root for them to win, but then if they lose, you have reason to be happy about it?
                          Last edited by psubills62; 12-02-2009, 10:10 PM.
                          "Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
                          - Nicholas Cummings

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                          • psubills62
                            Legendary Zoner
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 11295

                            #14
                            Re: Great Article by Nick Bakay

                            Originally posted by Joe Fo Sho
                            The f*** is a "real" fan?

                            I understand as much as anybody that the Bills are potentially better off losing and getting a better coach and a better draft pick. In the days coming up to the game, I am hoping that they lose.

                            Come gametime, I can't root for the Bills to lose. I can't hope Jackson fumbles, I can't hope Fitzel throws a pick six, I can't hope Lindell misses a game winning kick, I can't root for the opposition, no matter who they are.

                            What kind of fan does that make me?
                            First of all, why would losing necessarily get us a better coach? If we go 3-2 from here on out, why on earth would Wilson keep Fewell on?

                            Second, a "better" draft pick would also be exponentially more costly, and not necessarily that much better. I'd much rather draft in the 8-10 range. Can still get a top position player at a much better cost.

                            Third, Jauron has been grinding his losing ways into the players. I'd much, much, much rather see Fewell at least chip away at that mentality for the rest of the season than watch them continue to lose. Losing is not acceptable, and all of the players have to learn that.

                            Fourth, in an SI player's poll, they asked "which team would you NOT want to go to as a free agent," and guess which team came in second? The Bills. Oakland was the only team ahead of us. That means players would rather go to the Lions, Browns, etc. than us. How pathetic is that? I'd want to win and create a better image for our team than that after ten years we only sink lower and lower.
                            "Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
                            - Nicholas Cummings

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                            • BertSquirtgum
                              Legendary Zoner
                              • May 2009
                              • 13379

                              #15
                              Re: Great Article by Nick Bakay

                              IMO, "real fans" do not root against their team. that's all there is to it. you can hope for change but for god sakes man how can you root against your team? i just don't get it. i wholeheartedly agree with what psu said.
                              Last edited by BertSquirtgum; 12-02-2009, 10:49 PM.

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