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  • The King
    Without me it's just Awe so
    • Jun 2004
    • 42380
    #1

    Troy Smith

    Jeff1220 brought this up the other day and it really got me thinking. And to be honest I think this is the best idea no one is talking about.

    Smith is in his 3rd year in the league, soley in a cleanup role. He has the desire to be a starter in this league he's a hard working, good character guy.
    So he's a little short. His contract is up this year I believe, can anyone give me a good reason as to why he shouldn't be considered?

    Here are his NFL stats... Mostly garbage time, he does have two starts.

    43-80 534 yards 3TD's 0INT's 87.2 Rating through 10 appearances.

    He would come cheap and give us our draft picks to address the holes on our line.
    I would take Smith over any QB in this years draft class and he would come with a much lesser tag.

    A+ suggestion Jeff!
    Last edited by The King; 12-10-2009, 08:37 AM.
    I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
    "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
    You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
    It was all     true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
    He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can     mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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  • The Juice Is Loose
    All-Pro Zoner
    • Feb 2009
    • 1341
    #2
    Re: Troy Smith

    Stupid idea. If he was worth a damn he wouldn't be collecting dust for 3 years.
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    • mayotm
      Registered User
      • Jul 2003
      • 2333
      #3
      Re: Troy Smith

      Originally posted by The Juice Is Loose
      Stupid idea. If he was worth a damn he wouldn't be collecting dust for 3 years.
      Stupid response. Lots of good players take time to develop. Not saying I think Smith is one of them, but your logic is off. For the record, Smith was going to start over Flacco two years ago before getting very sick towards the end of the pre-season.
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      • THATHURMANATOR
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 69112
        #4
        Re: Troy Smith

        This is in the same line as my Dennis Dixon idea but Smith has even more experience!

        I do like this as well. Better than many options.

        JIL since this is such a dumb idea tell me what you want to do at QB braniac!
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        • Tatonka
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 21289
          #5
          Re: Troy Smith

          troy smith looked solid any time he played. we have nothing at all to lose to sign the guy and let him compete. we have a ton of money and no qbs.. so why not draft one.. sign him and go with braum as well.

          it really wont matter unless we get a good coaching staff.
          "All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity." ~ Gordie Howe
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          • The King
            Without me it's just Awe so
            • Jun 2004
            • 42380
            #6
            Re: Troy Smith

            If Smith was 3-4 inches taller I think the rap on him would be much different. The kid has a ton of heart... I would totally buy his jersey from China!
            I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
            "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
            You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
            It was all             true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
            He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can             mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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            • THATHURMANATOR
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 69112
              #7
              Re: Troy Smith

              Originally posted by Tatonka
              troy smith looked solid any time he played. we have nothing at all to lose to sign the guy and let him compete. we have a ton of money and no qbs.. so why not draft one.. sign him and go with braum as well.

              it really wont matter unless we get a good coaching staff.
              Exactly! If either Dixon or Smith are brought in it isn't giving them the keys to the bus. They would be brought in to compete. In a year of one of the weaker QB classes in some time and no legitimate veterans starters available what do you suggest the team does? Stick with Fitz???? NO THANK YOU.

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              • The King
                Without me it's just Awe so
                • Jun 2004
                • 42380
                #8
                Re: Troy Smith

                To draft a question mark QB just because we need one is going to throw us in another 3 year cycle of question marks... we really need to take the guessing out of the equation. And while a head coach wants nothing to do with us, a back up QB would be thrilled to come here knowing they have a good shot to win the gig.
                I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
                "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
                You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
                It was all                 true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
                He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can                 mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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                • The Juice Is Loose
                  All-Pro Zoner
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 1341
                  #9
                  Re: Troy Smith

                  Originally posted by THATHURMANATOR
                  This is in the same line as my Dennis Dixon idea but Smith has even more experience!

                  I do like this as well. Better than many options.

                  JIL since this is such a dumb idea tell me what you want to do at QB braniac!
                  Ok, my original statement about Smith collecting dust, comes from Matt Shaub. Shaub was good enough on the bench that after a year or so, a team gave up a 2nd round pick for him, and he's performed. Even still, he hasn't quite been great, and he's been injury prone.

                  The cream rises. If a guy is on a team for a few years and can't crack the lineup, then he probably isn't going to go to some other team and light it up.

                  With the acception of Steve Young, I can't think of a guy who rode the pine for more than a year behind a guy coming out and making a serious impact, can you?

                  I'll tell you what I would do if it were up to me. First, I wouldn't draft a QB this year. Period. Not Bradford, Tebow, Pike, nobody. They all look average at best. I've been watching football for 25 years now and I can at least ballpark range predict a guys potential in the NFL from watching him in college.

                  I would bolster our lines, offense and defense. I'd address the WR situation by either bringing in 2 new guys or extending TO and drafting 1 more.

                  Depending on if anything happens with a proven vet ala Chad Pennington 2 years ago, I'd go with the 3 we have on our roster, let them compete, and then if we decide none of them are the guy, we find our QB.

                  I just dont' think we should go out and force the QB issue. Buy once, buy right.
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                  • The Juice Is Loose
                    All-Pro Zoner
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 1341
                    #10
                    Re: Troy Smith

                    We would have to trade to acquire Dixon. he signed a 3 year deal in 2008.

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                    • The Juice Is Loose
                      All-Pro Zoner
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 1341
                      #11
                      Re: Troy Smith

                      Troy Smith signed a 3 year contract in 07, so he won't be available in free agency either.

                      So its not like we're just getting these guys off the market, we'd have to trade, probably a 3rd or 2nd rounder, which would not be worth it.

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                      • The King
                        Without me it's just Awe so
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 42380
                        #12
                        Re: Troy Smith

                        Juice, I believe Smith is a FA after this year so he wouldn't cost us a thing. And I agree 100% about locking down the line and putting the pieces in place to help a QB succeed.

                        I don't think Smith is on the same wave length as Schaub in terms of talent but I think he's a smart guy who can protect the football, much like Pennington that is the stop gap we need right now, the difference is Smith has upside, Pennington has none.

                        I thought Smith was under contract for 07, 08 and 09? That would be a three year deal no?
                        Last edited by The King; 12-10-2009, 09:23 AM.
                        I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
                        "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
                        You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
                        It was all                         true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
                        He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can                         mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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                        • The Juice Is Loose
                          All-Pro Zoner
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 1341
                          #13
                          Re: Troy Smith

                          Originally posted by King Bedard
                          Juice, I believe Smith is a FA after this year so he wouldn't cost us a thing. And I agree 100% about locking down the line and putting the pieces in place to help a QB succeed.

                          I don't think Smith is on the same wave length as Schaub in terms of talent but I think he's a smart guy who can protect the football, much like Pennington that is the stop gap we need right now, the difference is Smith has upside, Pennington has none.

                          I thought Smith was under contract for 07, 08 and 09? That would be a three year deal no?
                          your right about the contract, it should be up this year.

                          basically, between brohm and smith all we really have to go on is their college career. neither has had a chance in the pros to even show anything.

                          and based on the college career, how could you not choose brohm?

                          maybe i'm creating something in my mind based on wishful thinking, but i personally think brohm could really easily be the best qb we have, and could easily be better than smith or dixon or whoever.

                          so i think we should give a brohm a chance without clouding the competition with a bunch of new qb's.

                          i think we should have the 3 we have no compete for the job. we haven't had competition here at the position in a long while and traditionally a qb competition ends up yielding a better starter, because they are forced to be their best day in and day out.

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                          • Jeff1220
                            H to the 12:20
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 6137
                            #14
                            Re: Troy Smith

                            To clarify - Smith will be a RFA at season's end.

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                            • BuffaloBlitz83
                              We play to win the game!
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 5754
                              #15
                              Re: Troy Smith

                              No thx. Go with Brohm and draft one of the QB's this year. I don't trust Troy Smith. I rather draft Locker, Pike, or Bradford. The rookie or Brohm will more likely work out than Brohm and Smith. I don't like Smith.

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