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OpIv37
12-11-2009, 08:04 AM
http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2009/12/10/bills-kick-game-specialists-roughing-it/


But while the offense and defense practiced inside, Moorman and Lindell went with long snapper Garrison Sanborn out to the grass field, which was adrift with snow and driving winds.

So, everyone except our kickers practices INSIDE when we have a bad weather (or at least cold weather) game coming up? And our practice field is GRASS when our stadium has astro-turf?

Think any of this may contribute to our ****ty home record over the last few years?

How dumb can this team be?

mybills
12-11-2009, 08:18 AM
What does KC have for turf?

hydro
12-11-2009, 08:19 AM
What does KC have for turf?

Believe they have real grass.

mybills
12-11-2009, 08:21 AM
Believe they have real grass.
There ya go!

OpIv37
12-11-2009, 08:22 AM
grass, I believe.

OpIv37
12-11-2009, 08:22 AM
There ya go!

except that the O and D are practicing INSIDE ON TURF.

That doesn't exactly seem sufficient for a game that's OUTDOORS ON GRASS.

hydro
12-11-2009, 08:25 AM
except that the O and D are practicing INSIDE ON TURF.

That doesn't exactly seem sufficient for a game that's OUTDOORS ON GRASS.

Yeah unless it isn't windy in KC they aren't even close to practicing in the right conditions. But tbh, the weather is NASTY around Orchard Park. They would be practicing in weather that is WAY worse than it will be on Sunday. Don't think that is helping them all that much.

Michael82
12-11-2009, 08:26 AM
except that the O and D are practicing INSIDE ON TURF.

That doesn't exactly seem sufficient for a game that's OUTDOORS ON GRASS.

umm....the snow was too deep and it was too cold to practice outside or else they would have done it.

TedMock
12-11-2009, 08:30 AM
Not sure specifically about KC, but the midwest just got hit hard with bad weather. I don't imagine KC was spared by the weather gods. I agree with you that we have lost our winter edge & it's probably because we don't practice in it. Not that we even have to every day. At least do it for half of practice to get used to the elements when we have an outdoor game. Practice indoors when we're at a dome that week. This team has completely lost it's tough identity & it's frustrating as hell.

mybills
12-11-2009, 08:35 AM
How many of them are already on injured reserve?

The Juice Is Loose
12-11-2009, 08:37 AM
who gives a damn at this point?

i'm hoping they lose out. i'm a bills fan, don't judge that, it's just...i'm sick of this.

we need to fire everybody in orchard park that wears a shirt and tie to work. period. (and lots that wear bills polo's to work!)

RockStar36
12-11-2009, 08:42 AM
Op is 100% right.

The Bills used to own the home field advantage in the winter time, but they completely lost that edge when they started practicing indoors.

Pathetic.

BertSquirtgum
12-11-2009, 08:49 AM
partly sunny and 41 degrees for sunday. doesn't seem practical to practice in 40 mile an hour winds.

mybills
12-11-2009, 08:51 AM
who gives a damn at this point?

OpIv does. :D

Actually, I don't blame them for being careful when the seasons shot anyway. They've had so many injuries it's pathetic. There will be guaranteed punting and kicking, and this will be very important especially if the wind is a factor, so it makes sense for M&L to practice outdoors. They'll most likely use a lot of the ground game if it is windy, and rely on Lindell for his 3's. They also have different cleats for different turfs, so I'm not getting worked up over it and I HATE the Cheifs. That's my brother's *****wife's team. :evil:

THATHURMANATOR
12-11-2009, 08:52 AM
Believe they have real grass.
EXACTLY

OpIv37
12-11-2009, 09:02 AM
partly sunny and 41 degrees for sunday. doesn't seem practical to practice in 40 mile an hour winds.

it's 41 degrees and windy inside the fieldhouse? Somehow I doubt it.

Jan Reimers
12-11-2009, 09:05 AM
Don't know how it is in OP, but my Pub manager says some of the Southtowns are getting high winds and an inch of snow per hour. That would not lead to a productive practice.

madness
12-11-2009, 09:18 AM
Don't know how it is in OP, but my Pub manager says some of the Southtowns are getting high winds and an inch of snow per hour. That would not lead to a productive practice.

Exactly...Perry had them practicing with pads a day earlier and even had them outside and bad weather already, something they never did under Dick. I don't there are any teams in the NFL that practice in 2 ft. of snow.

http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/cgo/lowres/cgon226l.jpg

OpIv37
12-11-2009, 09:20 AM
You can call it an overreaction all you want, but this issue has been brought up on this board before. The results on the fields speak for themselves.

madness
12-11-2009, 09:22 AM
You can call it an overreaction all you want, but this issue has been brought up on this board before. The results on the fields speak for themselves.
The results are due to bad coaching and piss poor talent. I don't think we'd be in the playoffs or even have a winning record if we practiced outside in extreme weather more.

mybills
12-11-2009, 09:23 AM
You're right, Op. Let's risk more injuries when the season is dead anyway. :up:

OpIv37
12-11-2009, 09:42 AM
You're right, Op. Let's risk more injuries when the season is dead anyway. :up:

if the season is dead, why do injuries matter?

And if we're worried about injuries, why practice at all? Any practice comes with a risk of injury, regardless of where it's held.

Griff
12-11-2009, 09:54 AM
You're right, Op. Let's risk more injuries when the season is dead anyway. :up:

rofl right because the offseason doesn't happen.

mybills
12-11-2009, 10:01 AM
rofl right because the offseason doesn't happen.
wtf does that have to do with where they practice one time?

RockStar36
12-11-2009, 10:53 AM
You're right, Op. Let's risk more injuries when the season is dead anyway. :up:

How are they going to get injured by being outside in the cold?

If that were the case, I shouldn't have come to work today because I risked injury.

LtFinFan66
12-11-2009, 11:45 AM
some folks use the injury card no matter what....because no other teams suffer injuries ya know

mybills
12-11-2009, 01:48 PM
How are they going to get injured by being outside in 2 feet of snow?

RockStar36
12-11-2009, 01:54 PM
Exactly. How the hell are they going to get injured in snow? It's soft white fluffy stuff.

I had no idea we were dealing with 10 year old kids.

FlyingDutchman
12-11-2009, 02:06 PM
http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2009/12/10/bills-kick-game-specialists-roughing-it/



So, everyone except our kickers practices INSIDE when we have a bad weather (or at least cold weather) game coming up? And our practice field is GRASS when our stadium has astro-turf?

Think any of this may contribute to our ****ty home record over the last few years?

How dumb can this team be?

I thought Perry was putting an end to practice indoors? that field house is the worst thing to happen to the bills

Ebenezer
12-11-2009, 02:14 PM
Don't know how it is in OP, but my Pub manager says some of the Southtowns are getting high winds and an inch of snow per hour. That would not lead to a productive practice.


Yeah, since I live seven minutes from the stadium I can pretty much assure you that practicing in that weather yesterday would have been as productive as practicing underwater without an airtank and with blindfolds on...

Ebenezer
12-11-2009, 02:15 PM
I thought Perry was putting an end to practice indoors? that field house is the worst thing to happen to the bills
true, but there was no way they were practicing outdoors.

FlyingDutchman
12-11-2009, 02:18 PM
true, but there was no way they were practicing outdoors.

so was yesterday a 1 time thing? or are they still practicing in there?

mybills
12-11-2009, 09:38 PM
Yeah, since I live seven minutes from the stadium I can pretty much assure you that practicing in that weather yesterday would have been as productive as practicing underwater without an airtank and with blindfolds on...
Save yourself the typing, it's just white fluffy snow. :chuckle:

jamze132
12-11-2009, 09:51 PM
umm....the snow was too deep and it was too cold to practice outside or else they would have done it.
Really? What was their excuse the last 4 years?

mybills
12-11-2009, 09:55 PM
Really? What was their excuse the last 4 years?
Jauron.

Jan Reimers
12-12-2009, 08:13 AM
You can call it an overreaction all you want, but this issue has been brought up on this board before. The results on the fields speak for themselves.
OP, you have to look at specific circumstances. You cannot practice effectively in blizzard conditions. Period. I believe this team has been practicing outdoors for the most part, but driving wind and blinding snow will not allow any sort of preparation - especially when KC is not expecting bad weather.

OpIv37
12-12-2009, 12:23 PM
OP, you have to look at specific circumstances. You cannot practice effectively in blizzard conditions. Period. I believe this team has been practicing outdoors for the most part, but driving wind and blinding snow will not allow any sort of preparation - especially when KC is not expecting bad weather.
if the conditions are too bad for the other players, why are the kickers allowed out there? That's what I don't get.

Also, why is the outdoor field grass when our playing surface is turf? I don't get that either.

Oaf
12-12-2009, 12:48 PM
OpIv does. :D

Actually, I don't blame them for being careful when the seasons shot anyway. They've had so many injuries it's pathetic. There will be guaranteed punting

Definitely. I actually am wondering why they let Lindell outside as well.

Buddo
12-12-2009, 04:31 PM
So the situation seems to be that the weather outside was appalling. The kicker wanted to practise in it with the long snapper and holder. Good for him.
The kicking 'crew' have to make minimal movements to execute their task. Dangers are minimal.
Trying to practise as a team in atrocious conditions, doesn't actually serve much of a purpose. Note the word 'atrocious'.
Guys are unable to hear, see or react to, instructions and teaching easily. To give themselves the best opportunity to do so, they practised indoors. Common sense has to be applied. It is also likely that they are not going to be facing 'atrocious' conditions at the weekend, when they are playing in a different state.
Next week, if things are bad again, and are expected to remain so for the game, I would expect to see them outside for as much of the time as possible. This week, it doesn't really matter.

madness
12-17-2009, 11:02 AM
You can call it an overreaction all you want, but this issue has been brought up on this board before. The results on the fields speak for themselves.

Okay....overreaction!


Terrell Owens seemed like he still was shivering when he addressed the media immediately after the Bills finished practicing. The Bills' receivers, running backs and quarterbacks spent the first 20 minutes or so of practice outside on the grass field behind the fieldhouse. It was bitter cold due to strong winds. Then they spent the bulk of preparations inside the fieldhouse with the doors open, so it was a bit cold in there, too. Coach Perry Fewell said he hopes to practice fully outside on Friday. Owens did not like the cold, and was in a playful mood about it afterward.
Asked what he thought of the weather, he said: "I can't remember. I'm still frozen. I'm trying to thaw out right about now. Brutal."
Was it good to get outside a little and get acclimated?
"Absolutely not," Owens said. "This was by far the coldest practice I've ever been a part of. I don't know if it's going to get us ready or not, but it was brutal today."
Bills assistant Nate Hackett, who serves as an extra passer during some individual drills, was struggling to hit receivers in the wind. Asked what he thought of Hackett's day, Owens joked: "Oh my God. Thank goodness we've got Fitz and Trent. If he was our third-team quarterback I think I'd just quit. We'd be handing the ball off to Marshawn and Fred all day long."


http://www.buffalonews.com/452/story/896820.html

madness
12-17-2009, 11:07 AM
Just calling it like I see it...

Practice is inside and out

Chris Brown
Posted December 16th, 2009
Tags: practice update (http://blogs.buffalobills.com/tag/practice-update/)
In an effort to have the players ready for the elements interim head coach Perry Fewell has his players spending portions of practice inside the Fieldhouse with all the doors open to let in the freezing cold air, and outside on the team’s grass field.
The players spending time outside were the receivers, backs, tight ends and quarterbacks, the players who will be most affected by the weather in terms of executing plays on Sunday. It’s a windy day here in Buffalo with a forecast high of 20. The real feel is about 10.
It’s good to see the players having to adjust to the elements. Hopefully it pays off on Sunday when the forecast high is 27 with 12-15 mph winds and a 40 percent chance of snow.

OpIv37
12-17-2009, 11:09 AM
Glad they decided to be men for once.

mybills
12-17-2009, 12:48 PM
Glad it wasn't blizzard conditions this time.