Ok, FlyingDoutchman, please don't yell at me for starting another thread.
The other Maybin threads are getting congested, so I just want to post some REALITY for all of you guys as to just how bad Maybin is doing.
I raised the question "How many d-ends did NOTHING their rookie year and went on to have good careers"
People threw these names at me, citing that they didn't have good rookie years. Now, these are guys who I wouldn't even necessarily expect Maybin to be better than.
I'm posting this because people have cited that these guys took as long as Maybin to produce, which is not the case. Here are the facts:
Mario Williams - 1st overall, 35 tackles, 4.5 sacks
Dwight Freeney - 11th overall pick, 40 tackles, 13 sacks
Gaines Adams - 5th overall pick, 38 tackles, 6 sacks
Chris Long - 2nd overall pick, 32 tackles, 4 sacks
I would also like to add that NONE of these players held out for a better contract. And, another fun fact is that Freeney has been billed as a "small" "speed" defensive end, in a 4-3, and he weighs 268lbs. That is up to 30lbs more than Maybin.
Now, just to be thorough, I am going to compare him to some other defensive ends from this draft, players that we could have drafted, but didn't.
Tyson Jackson - 13 tackles, 0 sacks (he plays DE in a 3-4, not a sack position)(still almost double the tackles)
Brian Orakpo - 29 tackles, 7 sacks
Everette Brown - 12 tackles, 1.5 sacks (not great but still way more than Maybin)
And lastly, I'm going to compare him to some of our horrible d-ends over the past 10 years.
Erik Flowers - 2 sacks rookie year
Chris Kelsay - 12 tackles, 0 sacks
Ryan Denney - 6 tackles, 0 sacks.
So, now can we stop throwing names like Mario Williams and Dwight Freeney at me as comparison? I think this shows that if your ever going to do anything, you'll find your way on the field and do SOMETHING your rookie year.
We basically have spent 25 million on a skinnier Ryan Denney with a mohawk.
Who held out for more $.
History shows, if anybody expects anything better than Denney (unless we switch to 3-4) your going to be sorely dissapointed.
As we all already are.
The other Maybin threads are getting congested, so I just want to post some REALITY for all of you guys as to just how bad Maybin is doing.
I raised the question "How many d-ends did NOTHING their rookie year and went on to have good careers"
People threw these names at me, citing that they didn't have good rookie years. Now, these are guys who I wouldn't even necessarily expect Maybin to be better than.
I'm posting this because people have cited that these guys took as long as Maybin to produce, which is not the case. Here are the facts:
Mario Williams - 1st overall, 35 tackles, 4.5 sacks
Dwight Freeney - 11th overall pick, 40 tackles, 13 sacks
Gaines Adams - 5th overall pick, 38 tackles, 6 sacks
Chris Long - 2nd overall pick, 32 tackles, 4 sacks
I would also like to add that NONE of these players held out for a better contract. And, another fun fact is that Freeney has been billed as a "small" "speed" defensive end, in a 4-3, and he weighs 268lbs. That is up to 30lbs more than Maybin.
Now, just to be thorough, I am going to compare him to some other defensive ends from this draft, players that we could have drafted, but didn't.
Tyson Jackson - 13 tackles, 0 sacks (he plays DE in a 3-4, not a sack position)(still almost double the tackles)
Brian Orakpo - 29 tackles, 7 sacks
Everette Brown - 12 tackles, 1.5 sacks (not great but still way more than Maybin)
And lastly, I'm going to compare him to some of our horrible d-ends over the past 10 years.
Erik Flowers - 2 sacks rookie year
Chris Kelsay - 12 tackles, 0 sacks
Ryan Denney - 6 tackles, 0 sacks.
So, now can we stop throwing names like Mario Williams and Dwight Freeney at me as comparison? I think this shows that if your ever going to do anything, you'll find your way on the field and do SOMETHING your rookie year.
We basically have spent 25 million on a skinnier Ryan Denney with a mohawk.
Who held out for more $.
History shows, if anybody expects anything better than Denney (unless we switch to 3-4) your going to be sorely dissapointed.
As we all already are.
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