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  • HAMMER
    I'm right, Miyagi is wrong.
    • Jul 2003
    • 8132
    #1

    Careful what you wish for....

    Good tidbit from Peter King, scroll down a little.
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/12/15/niners/index.html?eref=sihp


    I for one am not a fan of paying huge bucks for a "proven" coach. I would prefer someone that has been well groomed, hungry, lots of energy, and that is looking to make their mark.

    The most important thing is to have a great talent evaluator to come in as a GM and start making some good decisions. I don't see how anyone can support our latest first round pick. Taking a kid that started all of 8 games in college and came out after his sophmore year? Especially when we needed a LT so badly. That pick alone was simply mind blowing to me, mind blowing.
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  • ddaryl
    Everything I post is sexual inuendo
    • Jan 2005
    • 10714
    #2
    Re: Careful what you wish for....

    our drafting the last 10 years has been horrible we miss on way to many early round picks


    "Be Careful with that ax Eugene"
    Last edited by ddaryl; 12-15-2009, 03:18 PM.

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    • Beastie Bills
      Senior Zoner
      • Mar 2009
      • 548
      #3
      Re: Careful what you wish for....

      I actually did that research last week, and posted it in another thread.

      Scary that a superbowl-winning coach has never won a superbowl with a 2nd team. I don't know what to think of that.

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      • madness
        Registered User
        • Apr 2003
        • 13690
        #4
        Re: Careful what you wish for....

        1. Don "Donnie Brasco'' Banks had one of the great observations of this football season the other day. With seven former Super Bowl-winning coaches (Shanahan, Cowher, Holmgren, Billick, Dungy, Gruden, Martz) on the sidelines, and at least three of them serious contenders to get back in the game in January, Banks researched Super Bowl-winning coaches who left the team they won a title with and went to another team. In their NFL reincarnations, those coaches went 0-for-11 in winning a championship at their next stop or stops. In other words, be careful what you wish for when you're praying for one of these guys to come run your team.
        He had to do research? Wow, I'd consider that common knowledge.
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        • Philagape
          WIN NOW
          • Jul 2002
          • 19432
          #5
          Re: Careful what you wish for....

          Originally posted by Beastie Bills
          I actually did that research last week, and posted it in another thread.

          Scary that a superbowl-winning coach has never won a superbowl with a 2nd team. I don't know what to think of that.
          That even the greatest coaches and players don't win the Super Bowl in most of their years?
          "It is better to be divided by truth than to be united by error." -- Martin Luther

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          • Philagape
            WIN NOW
            • Jul 2002
            • 19432
            #6
            Re: Careful what you wish for....

            This is a numbers geek stat that means nothing.
            "It is better to be divided by truth than to be united by error." -- Martin Luther

            "Those who appease the crocodile will simply be eaten last." -- Winston Churchill

            2003 BZ Pick Em Champion
            2004 BZ Big Money League Champion

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            • Mudflap1
              Next Question!
              • Nov 2004
              • 3281
              #7
              Re: Careful what you wish for....

              Yes, it is common knowledge. However, let's call it like it is. The Bills are not aiming to win the Super Bowl at this point. They are aiming to be competitive and get back to the playoffs. A former Super Bowl winning coach could make that happen.

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              • WeAreArthurMoates
                Registered User
                • Feb 2009
                • 1642
                #8
                Re: Careful what you wish for....

                I want Russ Grimm with a good GM. Reese, Ron Hughes, Eric Decosta.
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                • The Juice Is Loose
                  All-Pro Zoner
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 1341
                  #9
                  Re: Careful what you wish for....

                  What would you guys think about Mangini as a DC?? Just wondering.

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                  • Mudflap1
                    Next Question!
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 3281
                    #10
                    Re: Careful what you wish for....

                    Originally posted by The Juice Is Loose
                    What would you guys think about Mangini as a DC?? Just wondering.
                    Other than the fact that pretty much every player on the Browns and Jets hates his guts, I think it's a good choice!

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                    • Bill Cody
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 11905
                      #11
                      Re: Careful what you wish for....

                      Originally posted by HAMMER
                      Good tidbit from Peter King, scroll down a little.
                      http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/12/15/niners/index.html?eref=sihp


                      I for one am not a fan of paying huge bucks for a "proven" coach. I would prefer someone that has been well groomed, hungry, lots of energy, and that is looking to make their mark.
                      Someone with color coded charts for the interview maybe? (manboobs) Or someone from a winning team? (Mularkey)

                      What the hell do we care if Ralph pays huge bucks? It's his money and he's got one foot in the grave. Personally I think NFL head coaching experience is very helpful. But that doesn't mean hiring Jauron II.

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                      • Oaf
                        Do you read what you write?
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 6151
                        #12
                        Re: Careful what you wish for....

                        I don't really care- we've hired 3 straight unproven so I say we give proven a shot.

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                        • Jeff1220
                          H to the 12:20
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 6137
                          #13
                          Re: Careful what you wish for....

                          Originally posted by Mudflap1
                          Yes, it is common knowledge. However, let's call it like it is. The Bills are not aiming to win the Super Bowl at this point. They are aiming to be competitive and get back to the playoffs. A former Super Bowl winning coach could make that happen.
                          That's why Marty would be the perfect choice (if he would do it). He has always made his teams strong and competitive, but has had playoff trouble. I'd be happy with giving Marty the chance to fix the Bills, and the chance to cast aside his own playoff demons.

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