Saints, Vikes, Colts, and Eagles don't run a 3-4

[BuffaloBlitz83]

Some of you guys seem to believe 3-4 is far better than 4-3 or cover 2. And a 3-4 automatically makes you better. Those are arguably the top 4 teams in the NFL and they run the 4-3 and 2 of them run a lot of cover 2. It isn't the defense. It is the players and coaching. 4-3<3-4, Players can make the system, neither is better.

I think a lot of you are in for a rude awakening thinking it is a guarantee we switch and a guarantee a switch improves the team automatically.

[ddaryl]

Re: Saints, Vikes, Colts, and Eagles don't run a 3-4

Some of you guys seem to believe 3-4 is far better than 4-3 or cover 2. And a 3-4 automatically makes you better. Those are arguably the top 4 teams in the NFL and they run the 4-3 and 2 of them run a lot of cover 2. It isn't the defense. It is the players and coaching. 4-3<3-4, Players can make the system, neither is better.

I think a lot of you are in for a rude awakening thinking it is a guarantee we switch and a guarantee a switch improves the team automatically.

I justl like the 3-4 over the 4-3. I prefer the felxibility of 4 LB's over 4 DL....

[EDS]

Re: Saints, Vikes, Colts, and Eagles don't run a 3-4

Some of you guys seem to believe 3-4 is far better than 4-3 or cover 2. And a 3-4 automatically makes you better. Those are arguably the top 4 teams in the NFL and they run the 4-3 and 2 of them run a lot of cover 2. It isn't the defense. It is the players and coaching. 4-3<3-4, Players can make the system, neither is better.

I think a lot of you are in for a rude awakening thinking it is a guarantee we switch and a guarantee a switch improves the team automatically.

The cover 2 is a great defense if you have the right personnel (see super bowl Tampa Bay defense) or can play with a lead (see Indy defense in the Manning era). The Bills have neither the right personnel nor a capable offense. As such, I strongly believe the team needs to build a defense that can stop the run and dictate terms (since the offense seems light years away from doing so).

The "bend but don't break" defense the Bills currently have will only work if they have an offense that can get into the endzone.

[Mr. Pink]

Re: Saints, Vikes, Colts, and Eagles don't run a 3-4

People always seem to forget that the Steel Curtain was the "tampa 2" style of defense.

That's where Dungy learned it. And that's the defensive style he took with him to Tampa.

Any defensive scheme is only as good as the personnel.

[BuffaloBlitz83]

Re: Saints, Vikes, Colts, and Eagles don't run a 3-4

We don't have the personal for a good cover 2 4-3, I agree.

But we have even less personal for a good 3-4!

[OpIv37]

Re: Saints, Vikes, Colts, and Eagles don't run a 3-4

Some of you guys seem to believe 3-4 is far better than 4-3 or cover 2. And a 3-4 automatically makes you better. Those are arguably the top 4 teams in the NFL and they run the 4-3 and 2 of them run a lot of cover 2. It isn't the defense. It is the players and coaching. 4-3<3-4, Players can make the system, neither is better.

I think a lot of you are in for a rude awakening thinking it is a guarantee we switch and a guarantee a switch improves the team automatically.

If we switch, it's pretty much a guarantee that we WON'T improve immediately. We don't really have the right personnel for the C2, but we're much closer than we are to a traditional 4-3 or a 3-4. If we switch, we're 2-3 years away personnel wise, and the D will take a step or two back before it improves (if it improves).

[billistic]

Re: Saints, Vikes, Colts, and Eagles don't run a 3-4

When over the last five years, the only starter on the front four that your team drafted was a 5th rounder (Kyle Williams), and of your linebackers, the only ones drafted were a 2nd round pick (Posluszny) and a 6th rounder (Ellison), you've got no right to fuss over scheme.

Just suck it up. This is the Bills, here.

[TheBrownBear]

Re: Saints, Vikes, Colts, and Eagles don't run a 3-4

I like any scheme that's coached by smart coaches and manned by good players.

[baalworship]

Re: Saints, Vikes, Colts, and Eagles don't run a 3-4

The time to switch to a 3-4 was several years ago. Now that all these teams run the 3-4 the ability to get 3-4 specialists that dropped because other teams couldn't use them is also gone.

Even the Pats switched back to a 4-3.

[billistic]

Re: Saints, Vikes, Colts, and Eagles don't run a 3-4

Even the Pats switched back to a 4-3.

The Patriots couldn't close a re-up with Richard Seymour, and are probably also going to lose Vince Wilfork.

They don't really have any choice.

[BillsWin]

Re: Saints, Vikes, Colts, and Eagles don't run a 3-4

The key to the 4-3 is pass rush. At times this season the 4-3 worked well because we got pressure on the QB. But now we are so injury riddled that what had potential to be a pretty good defense turned into a "at least we try hard while we letup 200 rushing yards" defense.

We need some new d-line depth, better linebackers and a healthy secondary.

I would like to switch to the 3-4 for my own reasons. I played in it, and feel it is a better system.

I think the 4-3 can be a good defense with upgrades on the d-line and at linebacker. Everyone needs to come back healthy and this defense isn't that bad, but they could use some help.

[FlyingDutchman]

Re: Saints, Vikes, Colts, and Eagles don't run a 3-4

i dont mind the 4-3, i just want to ax the cover 2 or get players who are capable of executing it. it requires pressure from the front 4 to be effective and we've clearly shown over the past few years that we cannot get to the quarterback. derrel revis here and champ bailey and they would still get beat if were not getting to the quarterback

[trapezeus]

Re: Saints, Vikes, Colts, and Eagles don't run a 3-4

3 of the 4 listed defenses aren't all that.

[Mahdi]

Re: Saints, Vikes, Colts, and Eagles don't run a 3-4

Some of you guys seem to believe 3-4 is far better than 4-3 or cover 2. And a 3-4 automatically makes you better. Those are arguably the top 4 teams in the NFL and they run the 4-3 and 2 of them run a lot of cover 2. It isn't the defense. It is the players and coaching. 4-3<3-4, Players can make the system, neither is better.

I think a lot of you are in for a rude awakening thinking it is a guarantee we switch and a guarantee a switch improves the team automatically.

I dont care what we run as long as we bring in some pass rushers.

Its not scheme, its players and execution that make a defense great.

[Mahdi]

Re: Saints, Vikes, Colts, and Eagles don't run a 3-4

3 of the 4 listed defenses aren't all that.

All of those defenses are solid. Colts have the top pass defense, Vikings top run defense, Saints are a good unit and the Eagles are always among the best.