Rank these former 1st round QBs

[Coach Sal]

I'm doing some research regarding the Bills potentially drafting a QB in the 1st round. But before I get to the nuts and bolts, I need some feedback.

(I know draz just started a thread about 1R QBs. Not trying to stomp on it, you should check that out too. I'm just trying to get some info, so I apologize draz)...........

Rank these former 1st round QBs in order from best (1) to worst (14), as far as their NFL careers so far.

I'M NOT CONCERNED WITH THEIR "VALUE" ACCORDING TO WHERE THEY WERE PICKED. SIMPLY RANKED FROM BEST TO WORST CAREERS SO FAR.

I did not include this last draft (not enough of a body of work yet), and went back 5 years before that, which is about enough to get some data for what I'm looking for:

2004
Eli Manning
Philip Rivers
Ben Roethlisberger
JP Losman

2005
Alex Smith
Aaron Rodgers
Jason Campbell

2006
Vince Young
Matt Leinart
Jay Cutler

2007
JaMarcus Russell
Brady Quinn

2008
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco

Thanks. I'll let this sit for a couple days and get some feedback, then use it for what I'm doing.

[Jaybird]

Re: Rank these former 1st round QBs

2004
1-Rivers
2-Big Ben
3-Eli
4-Losman

2005
1-Rodgers
2-Campbell
3-Smith

2006
1-VY
2-Cutler
3-Leinart

2007
1-Quinn
2-Russell

2008
1a-Ryan
1b-Flacco

Just realized you want them ranked from 1-14 not per year

[Forward_Lateral]

Re: Rank these former 1st round QBs

2004

Eli Manning
Philip Rivers
Ben Roethlisberger
JP Losman

I'd take any of the 3 besides Losman.

2005

Alex Smith
Aaron Rodgers
Jason Campbell

I'd take Smith and Rodgers. Campbell hasn't been horrible, Avg at best

2006

Vince Young
Matt Leinart
Jay Cutler

I still think Leinart has a shot to be a good QB, Young has proved himself to be nothing but a winner, IMO. Cutler will end up being fine in Chicago.

2007

JaMarcus Russell
Brady Quinn

Yuck

2008

Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco

I'd take either. Both are going to be NFL greats.

Here's my rankings

14. Russell
13. Losman
12. Quinn
11. Leinart
10. Smith
9. Campbell
8. Flacco
7. Cutler
6. Young
5. Ryan
4. Rodgers
3. Manning
2. Big Ben
1. Rivers

[Buckets]

Re: Rank these former 1st round QBs

2004
1-Rivers
2-Big Ben
3-Eli
4-Losman

2005
1-Rodgers
2-Campbell
3-Smith

2006
1-VY
2-Cutler
3-Leinart

2007
1-Quinn
2-Russell

2008
1a-Ryan
1b-Flacco

I like it, although Big Ben and Eli might be a toss up

[EricStratton]

Re: Rank these former 1st round QBs

1. Ben Roethlisberger
2. Philip Rivers
3. Aaron Rodgers
4. Eli Manning
5. Matt Ryan
6. Joe Flacco
7. Jay Cutler
8. Vince Young
9. Alex Smith
10. Jason Campbell
11. JP Losman
12. Matt Leinart
13. Brady Quinn
14. JaMarcus Russell

[Jaybird]

Re: Rank these former 1st round QBs

1-Rivers
2-Rodgers
3-Big Ben
4-Eli
5-VY
6-Cutler
7-Ryan
8-Flacco
9-Campbell
10-Smith
11-Quinn
12-Leinart
13-Losman
14-Russell

[Night Train]

Re: Rank these former 1st round QBs

2004 = A- ( Would be an A if Losman didn't ruin it )
Eli Manning
Philip Rivers
Ben Roethlisberger
JP Losman

2005 = B- ( Rodgers a top starter, Smith has been benched and is getting his 2nd chance,Campbell looks like a backup most games)
Alex Smith
Aaron Rodgers
Jason Campbell

2006 = B ( Cutler rocky but talented, Young reborn, Leinart had chance and blew it, one last shot if Warner quits soon)
Vince Young
Matt Leinart
Jay Cutler

2007 = D ( will be a an F if Quinn blows his next and last chance. Russell looking like a top 5 bust all time. )
JaMarcus Russell
Brady Quinn

2008 = B+ ( Both played well beyond belief as rookies. Flacco having soph. slump but the OL has issues. Both look like solid long time starters. )
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco

[Night Train]

Re: Rank these former 1st round QBs

14. Russell
13. Losman
12. Quinn
11. Leinart
10. Smith
9. Campbell
8. Young
7. Flacco
6. Cutler
5. Ryan
4. Rodgers
3. Manning
2. Big Ben
1. Rivers

[Jan Reimers]

Re: Rank these former 1st round QBs

2004
3-Eli Manning
2-Philip Rivers
1-Ben Roethlisberger
11-JP Losman

2005
10-Alex Smith
5-Aaron Rodgers
9-Jason Campbell

2006
7-Vince Young
12-Matt Leinart
4-Jay Cutler

2007
13-JaMarcus Russell
14-Brady Quinn

2008
6-Matt Ryan
8-Joe Flacco

[BuffaloBlitz83]

Re: Rank these former 1st round QBs

Philip Rivers
Aaron Rodgers
Eli Manning
Ben Roethlisberger
Matt Ryan
Jay Cutler
Vince Young
Joe Flacco
Jason Campbell
Alex Smith
Brady Quinn
JP Losman
Matt Leinart
Jamarcus Russell

[T-Long]

Re: Rank these former 1st round QBs

1. Ben Roethlisberger
2. Eli Manning
3. Phillip Rivers
4. Aaron Rodgers
5. Matt Ryan
6. Joe Flacco
7. Jay Cutler
8. Vince Young
9. Alex Smith
10. Jason Campbell
11. JP Losman
12. Matt Leinart
13. Brady Quinn
14. JaMarcus Russell

[Demon]

Re: Rank these former 1st round QBs

1. Ben Roethlisberger
2. Philip Rivers
3. Aaron Rodgers
4. Eli Manning
5. Matt Ryan
6. Joe Flacco
7. Jay Cutler
8. Vince Young
9. Jason Campbell
10. Alex Smith
11. JP Losman
12. Matt Leinart
13. Brady Quinn
14. JaMarcus Russell

[Prov401]

Re: Rank these former 1st round QBs

I'm doing some research regarding the Bills potentially drafting a QB in the 1st round. But before I get to the nuts and bolts, I need some feedback.

(I know draz just started a thread about 1R QBs. Not trying to stomp on it, you should check that out too. I'm just trying to get some info, so I apologize draz)...........

Rank these former 1st round QBs in order from best (1) to worst (14), as far as their NFL careers so far.

I'M NOT CONCERNED WITH THEIR "VALUE" ACCORDING TO WHERE THEY WERE PICKED. SIMPLY RANKED FROM BEST TO WORST CAREERS SO FAR.

I did not include this last draft (not enough of a body of work yet), and went back 5 years before that, which is about enough to get some data for what I'm looking for:

2004
Eli Manning
Philip Rivers
Ben Roethlisberger
JP Losman

2005
Alex Smith
Aaron Rodgers
Jason Campbell

2006
Vince Young
Matt Leinart
Jay Cutler

2007
JaMarcus Russell
Brady Quinn

2008
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco

Thanks. I'll let this sit for a couple days and get some feedback, then use it for what I'm doing.

From worst to best.

14.Russell
13.Losman
12.Quinn
11.Smith
10.Leinart
9.Cambell
8.Flacco
7.Ryan
6.Young
5.Cutler
4.Manning
3.Rivers
2.Rodgers
1.Roethlisberger

[bigbub2352]

Re: Rank these former 1st round QBs

Big Ben
Eli Manning
Aaron Rodgers
Phillop Rivers
Jay Cutler
Matt Ryan
Vince Young
Joe Flacco
Jason Campbell
Alex Smith
Brady Quinn
Matt Leinart
Jamarcus Russell
JP Losman

We really screwed the pootch not trading up for Big Ben when we had the chance

[trapezeus]

Re: Rank these former 1st round QBs

From best to worst with comments!!!
Ben Roethlisberger - 2 superbowls. Until this year has been consistent and has great pocket presence.
Eli Manning - Superbowl winner. Handles the NY media well. rose from what looked to be a possible bust label to win a great superbowl.
Philip Rivers - Consistent winner. no superbowl, but he looks to be in the kelly/marino mold until he wins where he gets credit for playing through pain and constantly getting the team to the playoffs despite bad early starts.
Aaron Rodgers - huge burden to carry as favre's successor. Plays well with a bad line. No real superstars on the offense, yet they are competitive in a cushy division. if he beats favre in the playoffs this year, he'll really find a groove of his own.
Matt Ryan - Falcons do better with him. He's a second year pro having to work through things, but he looks good.
Joe Flacco - gets help from a very balanced o and d, but he looks good from his work as a whole.
Vince Young - was everything everyone wanted, then totally sucked, and then shook off the knocks and raised himself up by the bootstraps. however, inconsistency is his problem. he needs to keep improving.
Jay Cutler - Kind of spiralling downward. but was very good early. perhaps he doesn't have enough tools in chicago. but the INTs at that number is very telling.
Alex Smith - Maybe alex smith and cutler are reversable. cutler keeps falling and alex smith is slowly rising. he is winning games and making good throws. If he keeps this pace, he'd be higher on the list.
Jason Campbell - still a starter on a bad redskins team. they seem to be finding a groove. he takes a beating each and every game. very inconsistent. Brady Quinn - on a pathetically run team. hasn't shown very much. a couple decent games here and there, but a lot of losses.
JP Losman - look at the guys ahead of him. a lot of them didn't have great situations, but found ways to get better. losman didn't do that. he's back from the UFL on the worst run team in football. If he sees the field again, there is no reason to believe he's learned anything. he'll continue to be a big armed qb with a small brain.
Matt Leinart - has no competitive drive at all. how many other first round qb's would let a 35+year old man keep him off the field for nearly 5 years? When he does see the field, there is a huge drop off in play.
JaMarcus Russell - I don't know crap about russell, i've never seen him play. but as a #1 pick, shouldn't he have some highlights that sportscenter, nfl network or cbs/fox/nbc could show? he'll be the new loco's QB in about 5 weeks.


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