Skins just "got around" the Rooney Rule

[X-Era]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/17/rooney-rule-should-exclude-internal-minority-candidates/

They simply interviewed an inside guy.

Again, If they have held an interview with Fewell which could include:

• Phone conversation with Ralph right after Jauron was fired

• Actually interview that was not made public

• Or maybe they argue that they have "interviewed" Fewell by giving him and on field audition the past several games

It could be very possible that there is no real reason why we cant hire a new HC now.

This article makes it seem like a forgone conclusion that it will be Shanahan. I'm not so sure. Shanahan would still have more power here, and a less meddling owner who will support his HC for a much longer period of time before pulling the plug.

[YardRat]

Re: Skins just "got around" the Rooney Rule

Until the rule is changed, the Skins complied.

I would assume that nothing the Bills have done to this point would satisfy the rule, unless they interviewed Fewell for the position between now and the time he was tagged as interim under the condition that he would be considered when the time came.

I still see Shanny ending up in Dallas.

[X-Era]

Re: Skins just "got around" the Rooney Rule

Until the rule is changed, the Skins complied.

I would assume that nothing the Bills have done to this point would satisfy the rule, unless they interviewed Fewell for the position between now and the time he was tagged as interim under the condition that he would be considered when the time came.

I still see Shanny ending up in Dallas.

I admit Im less hopeful about our chances at a big namer right now than before. However, several new Insider rumors are out there that may keep us in the mix.

1) Mort is reporting that Carolina will not blow up its GM and HC but rather keep one or both... Good news on the Cowher front

2) Bruce Allen is more closely linked with Gruden than Shanahan... good news on the Shanhan front.

3) Dallas may take too long, especially if they make it to the playoffs, in firing Wade to be able to get Cowher or Shanahan, they might be too late... good news on both those fronts as well

Im a bit unhappy about our report that were going GM shopping. Id like Parcells, or Holmgren,but I think were then stuck with a x-coord HC.

Unless its Kevin Colbert (Steelers GM) which may trigger signing Cowher as HC. I dont know why the Steelers would let Colbert leave though.

Its getting interesting and I'm praying for some real guys, with real rings, that can make us real again.

[kernowboy]

Re: Skins just "got around" the Rooney Rule

Personally I'd prefer an open competition at both competitions. We get too hung up on big names and forget that a number of these coaches were successful like Cowher having been promoted from a coordinator role.

There are a number of hungry young potential GMs like Eric DeCosta, Jimmy Raye, Marc Ross etc who can then do a proper assessment of potential prospects and get the best fit for the Buffalo Bills, not the best one for media sales..

Real guys wth real rings have never really made their subsequent teams real again as Head Coaches.

And Russ Grimm has 4 rings so knows exactly how to acquire them, both as a player and as a coach.

[Jan Reimers]

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I agree. Every big name coach and every big name GM was once promoted from a lesser position, by someone willing to give them a chance.

[Michael82]

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Agreed. I was also one who wanted a big name coach, but the more I think of it...look at the last few years who won the Super Bowl and made the playoffs...it was rookie or newer head coaches that used to be coordinators. Up and comers. We need one of those, along with a young genius at GM.

[EricStratton]

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Agreed. I was also one who wanted a big name coach, but the more I think of it...look at the last few years who won the Super Bowl and made the playoffs...it was rookie or newer head coaches that used to be coordinators. Up and comers. We need one of those, along with a young genius at GM.

I think the GM position is much more important than the HC. It's always been about the talent that has been put on the field that allows a coach to be great.

[Nighthawk]

Re: Skins just "got around" the Rooney Rule

It's becoming more obvious that the Bills weren't serious about getting a big name, but were just blowing smoke up everybody's asses. There is a report that Shanahan actually told the Bills that he and Allen were a package deal. Well, the Bills never spoke to Allen, so how serious could they have been? I'm not saying that the Redskins still don't get them over us, if that happened, but them not even pursuing Allen speaks volumes about how serious Ralphy is about turning this thing around.

[EricStratton]

Re: Skins just "got around" the Rooney Rule

If I remember right the Redskins had issues with the Rooney Rule when they hired their current and soon to former head coach as well as when they hired Gibbs back.

They have skirted the edges of the rule each time.

[RockStar36]

Re: Skins just "got around" the Rooney Rule

If I remember right the Redskins had issues with the Rooney Rule when they hired their current and soon to former head coach as well as when they hired Gibbs back.

They have skirted the edges of the rule each time.

Probably because it's a ridiculous rule.

[The Juice Is Loose]

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If I was black I'd be offended by the Rooney rule.

They've won super bowls, they have tons of jobs in the NFL. Fact is, if you prove that your a winner, you'll get the job regardless of what color you are. Look at NFL rosters for crying out loud. If these owners had any issues of the color of players they paid, the NFL would look a lot different.

I'd be insulted that I was being interviewed simply so the team could conform to a rule.

[TigerJ]

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I would would be delighted with a "big name coach" but a big name is certainly not a guarantee of great coaching, nor does the lack of a big name mean the coaching won't be great. We've become enamored of the thought of a big name because the last several coaches hired by the Bills did not have a big name and have flopped. We tend to fall into the pattern of thinking, the approach we tried hasn't worked, so let's do the opposite. It wasn't the strategy that failed. It was the individuals the Bills hired.

The Bills are going to hire a GM and coach. I don't know who they will be. The coach may be someone like Russ Grimm. He's got decent credentials but he's not a guarantee for success. Not even Shanahan is a guarantee for success. I wouldn't put it past Dan Snyder to be able to screw up the situation in Washington even if he does land Shanahan. All I can really do is hope Ralph Wilson and Russ Brandon get it right.

[trapezeus]

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the issue is that it's thepairing of players and coaches. the bills took undersized players that didn't even fit jauron's scheme all that well and put him with a coach and assist coaches who couldn't make them better. That's the failure.

if you keep drafting poorly and giving the coaches little to work with, we'll fail.

The problems go both ways. Gregg williams is doing well in DC and in NO. mularkey is doing well in atlanta. he has redman playing capably.

You can't draft players who don't want to be here, aren't big enough to play the game, and then put them into systems that don't match their skill set. the bills have been guilty for all three.

coaches can't run a system because they like it despite not having the right personnel. Coaches have to have good game day instincts. we don't need good interview coaches. we need good game day coaches.

[PromoTheRobot]

Re: Skins just "got around" the Rooney Rule

It's becoming more obvious that the Bills weren't serious about getting a big name, but were just blowing smoke up everybody's asses. There is a report that Shanahan actually told the Bills that he and Allen were a package deal. Well, the Bills never spoke to Allen, so how serious could they have been? I'm not saying that the Redskins still don't get them over us, if that happened, but them not even pursuing Allen speaks volumes about how serious Ralphy is about turning this thing around.

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[Typ0]

Re: Skins just "got around" the Rooney Rule

Why do people insist on twisting crap around like this? Fewell did not interview for the HC job here. He has not said he would interview if it was available to him. There has been no interviews that meet the RR requirements to my knowledge but there could have been one that we don't know about. But to stretch things and try and skate around it is silly. This article clearly states that a minority candidate interviewed for the job and it wasn't a sham interview. You can't have sham interviews.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ty-candidates/

They simply interviewed an inside guy.

Again, If they have held an interview with Fewell which could include:

• Phone conversation with Ralph right after Jauron was fired

• Actually interview that was not made public

• Or maybe they argue that they have "interviewed" Fewell by giving him and on field audition the past several games

It could be very possible that there is no real reason why we cant hire a new HC now.

This article makes it seem like a forgone conclusion that it will be Shanahan. I'm not so sure. Shanahan would still have more power here, and a less meddling owner who will support his HC for a much longer period of time before pulling the plug.