Holmgren to Browns

[X-Era]

Shefter said he is going to take the Browns offer but wont be the HC. Just on NFL Live.

[Night Train]

Re: Holmgren to Browns

He'll be the new "Czar " of losing in Cleveland.

He had his GM responsibilities stripped in Seattle with good reason. Better them than us.

He seems to have Tom Donahoe's " I know better than the scouts " philosophy.

Coaching is his only talent.

[BillsWin]

Re: Holmgren to Browns

I didn't want him anyway. Cowher and Shanahan are better in my opinion and Grimm is growing on me.

[WeAreArthurMoates]

Re: Holmgren to Browns

Give me Grimm or Zimmer with a great GM. Much better than a figure head.

[Ebenezer]

Re: Holmgren to Browns

$50 mil for 10 years with an option to coach...holy cow.

[Nighthawk]

Re: Holmgren to Browns

I just don't know about Grimm. I'm up in the air about him. He doesn't have any coordinator experience and has only been an OL coach...I believe?

[X-Era]

Re: Holmgren to Browns

I just don't know about Grimm. I'm up in the air about him. He doesn't have any coordinator experience and has only been an OL coach...I believe?

To me:

Unproven = up in the air

Just that easy.

[patmoran2006]

Re: Holmgren to Browns

I could care less about Holmgrem either.

But what I'd like someone to explain to me is exactly what is the love fest with Grimm all about?

[Nighthawk]

Re: Holmgren to Browns

I could care less about Holmgrem either.

But what I'd like someone to explain to me is exactly what is the love fest with Grimm all about?

I just posted the same thing...I don't see it. That being said, I'm more then willing to have somebody pursuade me as to why he is the right choice and would change things here.

[X-Era]

Re: Holmgren to Browns

I could care less about Holmgrem either.

But what I'd like someone to explain to me is exactly what is the love fest with Grimm all about?

I think its a love fest for one of the top guys who isn't proven.

Thats not adequate for me to get excited, but thats just MO.

[Demon]

Re: Holmgren to Browns

I could care less about Holmgrem either.

But what I'd like someone to explain to me is exactly what is the love fest with Grimm all about?

His work with the Arizona offensive line has been special. He's been Cowher's right hand man for years so he needs to know a thing or two about how to run an offense, he wasn't just a offensive line coach. He was going to be the Steelers head coach after Cowher, so they all saw something in him, then i forget what happened but they shocked everyone and hired Tomlin. If he was good enough for Pittsburgh, how could he not be for us?

Also, heard a stat on radio that offensive lineman in coaching is like a catcher going to manage in baseball, they usually always work out.

I wouldn't mind Grimm but they would need to have a good GM with him and also bring in good assistants for him .

[Ebenezer]

Re: Holmgren to Browns

the last five Bills coaches:

Wade Philips - Coordinator and HC experience
Gregg Williams - Coordinator
Mike Mularkey - Coordinator
Dick Jauron - Coordinator and HC experience
Perry Fewell - Coordinator

none of the five a proven winner. Stop getting retreads that never won anywhere and stop looking for the next super coach that nobody has tabbed yet. Get me a winner. Throw the house at Cowher.

[Nighthawk]

Re: Holmgren to Browns

Done deal...NFL Network is reporting Holmgren is the new President of the Cleveland Browns.

[X-Era]

Re: Holmgren to Browns

the last five Bills coaches:

Wade Philips - Coordinator and HC experience
Gregg Williams - Coordinator
Mike Mularkey - Coordinator
Dick Jauron - Coordinator and HC experience
Perry Fewell - Coordinator

none of the five a proven winner. Stop getting retreads that never won anywhere and stop looking for the next super coach that nobody has tabbed yet. Get me a winner. Throw the house at Cowher.

Exactly!

Fantastic post!

[Nighthawk]

Re: Holmgren to Browns

the last five Bills coaches:

Wade Philips - Coordinator and HC experience
Gregg Williams - Coordinator
Mike Mularkey - Coordinator
Dick Jauron - Coordinator and HC experience
Perry Fewell - Coordinator

none of the five a proven winner. Stop getting retreads that never won anywhere and stop looking for the next super coach that nobody has tabbed yet. Get me a winner. Throw the house at Cowher.

I second that!!!