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Ok what's with the lovefest for Russ Grimm? I'm just curious because alot of zoners want him as our next coach. What has he done to make him the best candidate? I mean the guy is an offensive line coach! He served under Cowher, so what! I mean if I had my choice, I'd take Weis over Grimm just on the fact that he served under arguably one of the best coaches in history A. and B. he took a green Tom Brady and made him one of the best quarterbacks of all time. Say what you want about him but Tim Brady and that offense minus the one super year, hasn't been the same since he left. If he can do what he did with that rag tag team that beat the greatest show on turf, I would be excited to see what he can do with this bunch of misfits. What has Grimm done, coached a team to the leading ypg rushing average? IMO of course.
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He was a large part of the Steelers first SB run and when he went over to Arizona with Wisenhunt, the Cards immediately became a contender. -
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Well, our offensive line has been pathetic since Jimbo was still the QB, so I'd like a coach who will address our OLine problems.Comment
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Originally posted by Beastie Bills
you don't need an OL coach for HC to address that. An offensive minded coach can do that as well.
Grimm is a great OL coach. Does he know how to develop a qb? a rb? X's and O's when D's give you different looks?
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1. Grimm is an exceptional coach particularly on the OL having made both Samuels and Jansen at the Redskins into stellar players, and turned a bunch of average players at both the Steelers and the Cardinals into a decent winning line.
2. He is known as an unassuming blue collar guy with no airs and frills who gets the job done .... we don't need a press wannabe, we want someone who despises losing
3. He has 4 SuperBowl rings, three as a player, one as a coach. The guy knows how to win.
4. He learnt under not just Bill Cowher, but Joe Gibbs who he played for and who gave him his first break
5. Not only is he an OL expert but he is the running game co-ordinator at the Cardinals turning Hightower into an acceptable RB.
6. It was literally a coin toss between him and Mike Tomlin for the Steelers job - he's not good at selling himself which is good for us.
7. Brady's record post Weis 2004-07 is as good as with him
8. Grimm does not have failure on his record in the way Weis has.
Why the love-in with Weis should be the question? Grimm hasn't had to rely on cheating costing his team a R1 pick and heavy fines the way the Patriot coaches haveComment
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No but a Head Coach is rarely responsible for QB development - that is often the OCs job and hiring an OC like Hue Jackson who developed Carson Palmer could easily solve that issueOriginally posted by justasportsfanyou don't need an OL coach for HC to address that. An offensive minded coach can do that as well.
Grimm is a great OL coach. Does he know how to develop a qb? a rb? X's and O's when D's give you different looks?Comment
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I would put my faith on a proven OC than a proven OL coach running an entire offense.Originally posted by kernowboy
BTW, I am not against Grimm but just don't know what the facination is.Last edited by justasportsfan; 12-28-2009, 01:39 PM.Comment
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Weis also coached up Brady Quinn and Jimmy Clausen pretty well too, despite Cleveland's absolute slaughtering of Quinn's development. It just seems obvious to me that if we want to have consistency at QB in Buffalo for once, Weis would be a good hire in doing so.Originally posted by soapman
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I like Grimm but I don't see it as a big plus that he developed Chris Samuels. The guy was the third overall pick in the NFL draft.
But don't downplay his offensive line credentials. Just as Jauron couldn't help himself from picking DB's, Grimm would most likely be biased towards solid o and d line play.Comment
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[QUOTE=justasportsfan]I would put my faith on a proven OC than a proven OL coach running an entire offense.
because our oline sucks....and it has killed this offense. our D would be better if our offense actually scored points and controlled TOP
i don;t know much about grimm but i like what ive heard about him and his background....not my top choice but i dont want charlie **** ass weis
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That's not true, quarterbacks are like a head coaches second in command. Why do you think that whenever a timeout is called, the QB goes over to talk with the head coach?Originally posted by kernowboyComment
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we've also had a crappy qb situation and unimaginative offensive gameplan and playcalling. I don't want Weiss as HC either.Originally posted by mikemac2001Comment
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Why the fascintation with Bill Cowher?
He's won a single superbowl at one of the best run franchises in the league
Most of his coordinators have become successful head coaches, so was Cowher the cheerleader to their expertise?
He has had superb GMs providing him with exceptional rosters.
Would he sink or swim without such a surrounding cast?Last edited by Guest; 12-28-2009, 02:26 PM.Comment
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And what about the Head Coaches from a defensive background with no record in offensive play prior to being Head Coach?Originally posted by PECKERWOOD
Take the NYG - is it the defensively minded Coughlin or the OC/QB guru Chris Palmer who develops Eli Manning?Comment
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Prior to the game vs. Minnesota on MNF, Grimm's offensive line started 17 consecutive games. The man knows talent when he sees it. He played around with a few guys and took over a disaster of a line after Denny Green left them. Once he figured out who the top 5 linemen were, they kept on starting. What's Bills longest streak for starting lineman in the last decade?Impossible is Nothing.
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