What does the Free agency market look like for our key position of need?

[THATHURMANATOR]

Are any of these positions strong in the free agency market?

I would advocate addressing as many of our needs through free agency so we can focus on getting the best player available in our early round picks.

[Typ0]

Quarterbacks are very hard to find. We should have been aggressive about getting a QB for the last six years of FA and have had it in the hands of incompetence instead. Without changes in our FO we'll see more of the same. And the FA QB market isn't that good but there are some guys available like Orton and Vick. Maybe we should go after Jeff George.

[Jan Reimers]

I'd be very happy with Orton as a stop gap until we find our franchise guy. He has performed well in Chicago and Denver.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Quarterbacks are very hard to find. We should have been aggressive about getting a QB for the last six years of FA and have had it in the hands of incompetence instead. Without changes in our FO we'll see more of the same. And the FA QB market isn't that good but there are some guys available like Orton and Vick. Maybe we should go after Jeff George.
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[Typ0]

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too bad we've been aiming at the wrong target all this time.

[Dr. Lecter]

It is hard to tell until we know if the CBA will be renewed or extended or if there will be the temporary rules in place.

[ddaryl]

It is hard to tell until we know if the CBA will be renewed or extended or if there will be the temporary rules in place.

My money says no it will not be extended

So the temp rules will be in place

6 years to be a UFA, all teams get 2 tags to use


and 2011 will suck because this is going to be a very ugly fight IMO :fit:

[Ebenezer]

It is hard to tell until we know if the CBA will be renewed or extended or if there will be the temporary rules in place.
...and who will be in the FO...and who will be the coach...and what juniors declare...

[THATHURMANATOR]

too bad we've been aiming at the wrong target all this time.
Those who dwell in the past get left behind....

[THATHURMANATOR]

...and who will be in the FO...and who will be the coach...and what juniors declare...
HOLY **** PEOPLE

I AM NOT ASKING ABOUT THIS.

If you want to discuss those topics start your own thread. WTF

[THATHURMANATOR]

It is hard to tell until we know if the CBA will be renewed or extended or if there will be the temporary rules in place.
So it is hard to tell who's contract ends after this season??? :idunno:

[methos4ever]

So it is hard to tell who's contract ends after this season??? :idunno:
Here you go Thurm...no neg comments either!

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/11/25/2010-afc-free-agent-preview

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/11/25/2010-nfc-free-agent-preview

Each conference broken down by team and further by true fa, restricted fa and possible rfa under no cba.

[RockStar36]

Try this Thurm...

http://www.footballsfuture.com/freeagents.html

[Ebenezer]

HOLY **** PEOPLE

I AM NOT ASKING ABOUT THIS.

If you want to discuss those topics start your own thread. WTF
Then why start this thread?? This team has more holes than 50 year old socks. Obviously OL is the first target.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Here you go Thurm...no neg comments either!

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/11/25/2010-afc-free-agent-preview

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/11/25/2010-nfc-free-agent-preview

Each conference broken down by team and further by true fa, restricted fa and possible rfa under no cba.
Thank you sir!!! :hi5:

[THATHURMANATOR]

Try this Thurm...

http://www.footballsfuture.com/freeagents.html
Thank you sir!

[jdbillsfan]

I could be wrong on these guys being free agents, but I would be interested in the following:

QB - Tavaris Jackson
OG - Jahari Evans, David Baas
OT - Marcus McNeil, Jared Gaither
DL - Johnny Jolly, Ray Edwards, Mark Anderson, Darryl Tapp, Barry Cofield
LB - Thomas Davis, Barrett Ruud, Demeco Ryans

[THATHURMANATOR]

Then why start this thread?? This team has more holes than 50 year old socks. Obviously OL is the first target.
Hmm Very simple because I wanted to know the available Free Agents for next season. Anyone who has the ability to read could have understood that...

[THATHURMANATOR]

I could be wrong on these guys being free agents, but I would be interested in the following:

QB - Tavaris Jackson
OG - Jahari Evans, David Baas
OT - Marcus McNeil, Jared Gaither
DL - Johnny Jolly, Ray Edwards, Mark Anderson, Darryl Tapp, Barry Cofield
LB - Thomas Davis, Barrett Ruud, Demeco Ryans
McNeil would be nice but I think I heard he will be franchised? :idunno:

[RockStar36]

I'd be happier with Fitzpatrick starting next season than Tavaris Jackson.

[THATHURMANATOR]

I'd be happier with Fitzpatrick starting next season than Tavaris Jackson.
I don't know about that but I agree he doesn't excite me all that much.

[methos4ever]

OT - Jared Gaither (LT / RT) is a good option, depends on his RFA tender. Same with Marcus McNeil. Tauscher could be comp for Butler at RT, OR we can sign him and move Butler back to guard until Wood gets better. Jammal Brown's a RFA as well.

QB - Campbell, Orton, Carr (UFA), Culpepper, nothing to blow up your skirt, though I'm partial to either Campbell or Orton.

DT - Tank Johnson. Gun jokes aside, he's playing well in the Bengals one gap d.
Also, consider looking at Burgess (formerly of Oakland now of NE by trade) as an option as a vet DE pass rusher.

Casey Hampton. Regardless of scheme (don't want to jump into that argument) he can be a 2-down pat williams for us.

LB - Derrick Johnson doesn't fit in the 3-4 the Chiefs run but would be a great olb in a 4-3 again. He's an RFA, but if there's a good deal on the table KC would get rid of him gladly. To us, I don't know, just because of Pioli's love of Belly and Tuna.

Any of the Raider LBs (Sam Williams, Kirk Morrison or Thomas Howard) would be great adds.

Merriman could be a Will and be blitzed liberally in a 4-3.

Kampmann was a bad fit in a 3-4 and would be a Schobel De replacement option should he retire.

[Typ0]

Those who dwell in the past get left behind....

those who ignore the past are condemned to relive it. Welcome to Buffalo Bills football. Now come back with some anti-realism crap and buy your tickets to another losing season.

[Ingtar33]

So it is hard to tell who's contract ends after this season??? :idunno:


the basic problem is if the CBO ends, the people who normally would be FAs (after 4 years in the league) will be restricted FAs up till 6 years... furthermore every team will have 3 franchise tags, so the market will be sevierly restricted.

guys like Orton won't be available, frankly, probably all A class FAs and most if not all B class FAs won't be available.

[THATHURMANATOR]

those who ignore the past are condemned to relive it. Welcome to Buffalo Bills football. Now come back with some anti-realism crap and buy your tickets to another losing season.
Ok I will because I love football and have a great time going regardless.

Have fun being a miserable grump....

[THATHURMANATOR]

the basic problem is if the CBO ends, the people who normally would be FAs (after 4 years in the league) will be restricted FAs up till 6 years... furthermore every team will have 3 franchise tags, so the market will be sevierly restricted.

guys like Orton won't be available, frankly, probably all A class FAs and most if not all B class FAs won't be available.
Ok that makes sense.

Sorry Dr.

[RockStar36]

I don't know about that but I agree he doesn't excite me all that much.

I may have been exaggerating a little bit, but Jackson is just another Losman. There is a reason Minnesota was on their knees begging Favre to come back.

[ChristopherWalken]

Why does this list get longer each year?

I'm not a defeatist in any sense of the word, but I can't help but feel that rebuilding this team is utterly hopeless.

Thus far, most of the big name coaches have turned the opportunity down to take complete control of this team. Quite scary if you think about it. Things must be much worse then all of us are capable of comprehending.

IMO, the one man that is up for the task, and that can succeed, will become a legend in Buffalo. He will far exceed the reputation of Marv Levy.

Seems almost impossible a task.

[THATHURMANATOR]

I may have been exaggerating a little bit, but Jackson is just another Losman. There is a reason Minnesota was on their knees begging Favre to come back.
Oh I agree with you there.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Why does this list get longer each year?

I'm not a defeatist in any sense of the word, but I can't help but feel that rebuilding this team is utterly hopeless.

Thus far, most of the big name coaches have turned the opportunity down to take complete control of this team. Quite scary if you think about it. Things must be much worse then all of us are capable of comprehending.

IMO, the one man that is up for the task, and that can succeed, will become a legend in Buffalo. He will far exceed the reputation of Marv Levy.

Seems almost impossible a task.
I was asking who would be available.

[ChristopherWalken]

I was asking who would be available.

...and? I was commenting on how this list of necessity grows each year.

Relax Thurm. You seem up tight today. Do I need to buy you a shot?

[Ingtar33]

Why does this list get longer each year?

I'm not a defeatist in any sense of the word, but I can't help but feel that rebuilding this team is utterly hopeless.

Thus far, most of the big name coaches have turned the opportunity down to take complete control of this team. Quite scary if you think about it. Things must be much worse then all of us are capable of comprehending.

IMO, the one man that is up for the task, and that can succeed, will become a legend in Buffalo. He will far exceed the reputation of Marv Levy.

Seems almost impossible a task.


because management is incompetent.

we've needed at least one guard and a center for most if not all of the last decade, we finally fill that hole (not well mind you, Hangartner has been owned by every serious NT we've faced this year) but completely decimate our OT position in the same off season.

Since Pat Williams left we've needed 2 DTs, at most we have 1 on this roster now... (i can't decide if it's Kyle Williams or Marcus Stroud)... other then Schobel our DE position has been a weakness this whole decade, we've still not improved it.

We've had at times a functioning LBing corps, but injuries and FA has broken it up... the best corp we had was probably Fletcher, Spikes and Crowell, but that unit was only together for like 3 games before both spikes and crowell went down with injuries.

We've needed a QB every year of the decade except for the two Bledsoe was here... our WR corps has been good, though since Moulds left we've lacked a solid 2nd option for our QBs (including this season, where Owens stone hands and laziness on the field has not made him a reliable 2nd option)

Our TEs have been unremarkable... though i think we might have found a winner in Nelson, we'll have to wait to see how big of a winner because it's hard to tell with the QB unit this team has.


In short when your front office sucks with the draft, you're probably going to miss with FAs too, and that's exactly what's happened. As a result we never really improve... just tread water or get slowly worse.

[THATHURMANATOR]

...and? I was commenting on how this list of necessity grows each year.

Relax Thurm. You seem up tight today. Do I need to buy you a shot?
Why yes you do!!! Jager please!!! :hi5:

[kernowboy]

We need to have someone to build effectively through the draft.

If you look at teams like the Pats they save up the draft picks and develop their own. Same with the Steelers and the Colts.

When someone is allowed to become a free agent the concern must be because their team doesn't think their worth the money.

We need to have sensible drafts when the last day brings the team starters. Other teams are capable of doing this and so should we.

With a minimum of 9 picks this year, 7 picks next plus a host of young players still on their rookie contracts we should be able to engineer a considerable makeover of the roster without needing to worry about Free Agency.

[THATHURMANATOR]

We need to have someone to build effectively through the draft.

If you look at teams like the Pats they save up the draft picks and develop their own. Same with the Steelers and the Colts.

When someone is allowed to become a free agent the concern must be because their team doesn't think their worth the money.

We need to have sensible drafts when the last day brings the team starters. Other teams are capable of doing this and so should we.

With a minimum of 9 picks this year, 7 picks next plus a host of young players still on their rookie contracts we should be able to engineer a considerable makeover of the roster without needing to worry about Free Agency.
I agree with you 100% but you can fill a hole or 2 in Free agency is all I am saying.

[ChristopherWalken]

I agree with you 100% but you can fill a hole or 2 in Free agency is all I am saying.

Agreed. As crappy as that QB list is, the Bills are going to have to consider it a viable option because the draft is almost worse. Although, I'd almost rather gamble on a fresh out of college guy than an FA like Croyle. I don't know...**** in one hand crap in another

[THATHURMANATOR]

Agreed. As crappy as that QB list is, the Bills are going to have to consider it a viable option because the draft is almost worse. Although, I'd almost rather gamble on a fresh out of college guy than an FA like Croyle. I don't know...**** in one hand crap in another
Yep..... :doh:

[DraftBoy]

Ill start with our team;

Resign-
Scott
Reed
Wilson

Target-
Ben Watson
Dwan Edwards
Casey Hampton
Richard Seymour
Sean Jones
Ryan Pickett
Jermaine Phillips
Karlos Dansby

[THATHURMANATOR]

Ill start with our team;

Resign-
Scott
Reed
Wilson

Target-
Ben Watson
Dwan Edwards
Casey Hampton
Richard Seymour
Sean Jones
Ryan Pickett
Jermaine Phillips
Karlos Dansby

I like this list.

[DraftBoy]

I like this list.

Keep in mind most if not all those targets could or will be franchised.