DraftBoy Mock Draft V1.1

[DraftBoy]

Same Rules as last time;
-Only Juniors who have thus far officially declared are being included
-Picks 21-32 are decided based on NFL standings turned upside down, not on projections

1. St. Louis Rams: Ndamakong Suh DT, Nebraska
2. Detroit Lions: Gerald McCoy DT, Oklahoma
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Eric Berry S, Tennessee
4. Washington Redskins: Joe Haden CB, Florida
5. Kansas City Chiefs: Russell Okung OT, Oklahoma State
6. Seattle Seahawks: Jimmy Clausen QB, Notre Dame
7. Cleveland Browns: Dez Bryant WR, Oklahoma State
8. Oakland Raiders: Bruce Campbell OT, Maryland
9. Buffalo Bills: Brian Price DT, UCLA
10. Jacksonville Jaguars: Sam Bradford QB, Oklahoma
11. Denver Broncos (via Chicago): Golden Tate WR, Notre Dame
12. Miami Dolphins: Anthony Davis OT, Rutgers
13. San Francisco 49ers: Charles Brown OT, USC
14. Seattle Seahawks (via Denver): Brandon LaFell WR, LSU
15. New York Giants: Dan Williams DT, Tennessee
16. Tennessee Titans: Taylor Mays, FS, USC
17. San Francisco 49ers (via Carolina): Jerry Hughes DE/OLB, TCU
18. Pittsburgh Steelers: C.J Spiller RB, Clemson
19. Atlanta Falcons: Trevard Lindley CB, Kentucky
20. Houston Texans: Mike Iupati OG, Idaho
21. Baltimore Ravens: Brandon Ghee CB, Wake Forest
22. New York Jets: Brandon Spikes LB, Florida
23. Arizona Cardinals: Trent Williams OT, Oklahoma
24. Cincinnati Bengals: Terrence Cody NT, Alabama
25. New England Patriots: Everson Griffin DE, USC
26. Philadelphia Eagles: Brandon Graham DE, Michigan
27. Dallas Cowboys: Mardy Gilyard WR, Cincinnati
28. Green Bay Packers: Selvish Capers OT, West Viginia
29. Minnesota Vikings: Kyle Wilson CB, Boise State
30. San Diego Chargers: Greg Hardy OLB, Ole Miss
31. New Orleanes Saints: Donovan Warren CB, Michigan
32. Indianapolis Colts: Sean Weatherspoon LB, Missori

[billsburgh]

would the steelers really take another RB in the 1st round after drafting Mendenhall in the 1st 2 years ago?

[Slim]

You forgot who Seattle will pick at 14.

[DraftBoy]

You forgot who Seattle will pick at 14.

Fixed, thanks!

[DraftBoy]

would the steelers really take another RB in the 1st round after drafting Mendenhall in the 1st 2 years ago?


It was one of the toughest picks to decide on, because they have holes they could use to fill on both sides of the ball, but Spiller is a top 10 talent and at 18 with an aging Willie Parker...its hard not to pass up the value there.

[baalworship]

If we passed on Sam Bradford I would turn off my TV.

[RockStar36]

I could see the Steelers doing that, "Fast" Willie is about as fast as a bicycle with two flat tires.

[Ed]

Brian Price? Where did he come from? I haven't heard him mentioned before.

Passing on Bradford for a lesser known DT. Haha, I can already see people losing their minds.

[DraftBoy]

Brian Price? Where did he come from? I haven't heard him mentioned before.

Passing on Bradford for a less known DT. Haha, I can already see people losing their minds.

Brian Price is an underclassmen who declared last week. He is not an lesser known player. He is actually a very dominant DT out of the Pac-10.

Price had 48 tackles, 23.5 TFL, 7 Sacks, and 2 FF as a Senior.

[DraftBoy]

I could see the Steelers doing that, "Fast" Willie is about as fast as a bicycle with two flat tires.

The more I look at that pick, the more I could definitely see it. Outside of Holmes, Pittsburgh's offense lacks a true game breaker (not counting Big Ben), Spiller immediaitely brings that.

[PECKERWOOD]

Passing on Bradford would be silly, but I wouldn't put it past our FO.

[FlyingDutchman]

Brian Price is an underclassmen who declared last week. He is not an lesser known player. He is actually a very dominant DT out of the Pac-10.

Price had 48 tackles, 23.5 TFL, 7 Sacks, and 2 FF as a Senior.

price is damn good, but top 10 would be a little high in my opinion. i see him goin around mid 20s...who knows though, its the bills were talking here

[DraftBoy]

price is damn good, but top 10 would be a little high in my opinion. i see him goin around mid 20s...who knows though, its the bills were talking here


Right now his stock is mid-low 20's. He blows up the combine and workouts and he will sky rocket. I expect him to end up being a top 15 pick.

[DesertFox24]

maybe I missed something but how does Seattle have two first. Denver should have two first, theirs and Chicagos.

[DraftBoy]

maybe I missed something but how does Seattle have two first. Denver should have two first, theirs and Chicagos.

Denver dealt their 2010 first last draft to Seattle for their 5th pick in the 2nd round.

[DesertFox24]

Wow I totally missed that happening last year.

Granted I was drinking Jim and Coke during the draft so that is not surprising.

[Luisito23]

I would be very disappointed if we drafted Price that high.

[T-Long]

where did my post go?

[TigerJ]

I've seen several mocks that have Buffalo taking Brian Price, but not in the first round. You must be pretty high on him, or you think Buffalo is desperate for a DT.

[EDS]

It was one of the toughest picks to decide on, because they have holes they could use to fill on both sides of the ball, but Spiller is a top 10 talent and at 18 with an aging Willie Parker...its hard not to pass up the value there.

Didn't Mendenhall just rush for 1100+ yards this season?

[dannyek71]

This looks like Hassleback/Garrad will soon be available

[BillsWin]

No way we let Sam Bradford slide past us.

[DraftBoy]

I've seen several mocks that have Buffalo taking Brian Price, but not in the first round. You must be pretty high on him, or you think Buffalo is desperate for a DT.

Price wouldnt declare if he was only going to be a 2nd Round pick, imo.

I am very high on Price and very high on Buffalo taking a DT in general.

[DraftBoy]

Didn't Mendenhall just rush for 1100+ yards this season?

Fred Jackson hit over a 1000 doesn't mean we couldnt use a a good RB to compliment him or a game breaking back.

[DraftBoy]

No way we let Sam Bradford slide past us.


I dont think Bradford would be a lock for us, especially with his injury status still very unknown.

[DraftBoy]

where did my post go?

What post? I didn't touch it.

[ddaryl]

have all underclassmen declared

when is the final call for declarations ???

[bigbub2352]

Hey DB were do u see Mt Cody DT going?
i like him as a NT in a 3-4 and how far realistically do u see jermaine greisham fall at TE?

[Yasgur's Farm]

Has Rolando McClain dropped that far in your eyes? I don't see him in your round 1... Has something happened?

[DraftBoy]

have all underclassmen declared

when is the final call for declarations ???

No they have a few more weeks still.

[Mahdi]

Same Rules as last time;
-Only Juniors who have thus far officially declared are being included
-Picks 21-32 are decided based on NFL standings turned upside down, not on projections

1. St. Louis Rams: Ndamakong Suh DT, Nebraska
2. Detroit Lions: Gerald McCoy DT, Oklahoma
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Eric Berry S, Tennessee
4. Washington Redskins: Joe Haden CB, Florida
5. Kansas City Chiefs: Russell Okung OT, Oklahoma State
6. Seattle Seahawks: Jimmy Clausen QB, Notre Dame
7. Cleveland Browns: Dez Bryant WR, Oklahoma State
8. Oakland Raiders: Bruce Campbell OT, Maryland
9. Buffalo Bills: Brian Price DT, UCLA
10. Jacksonville Jaguars: Sam Bradford QB, Oklahoma
11. Denver Broncos (via Chicago): Golden Tate WR, Notre Dame
12. Miami Dolphins: Anthony Davis OT, Rutgers
13. San Francisco 49ers: Charles Brown OT, USC
14. Seattle Seahawks (via Denver): Brandon LaFell WR, LSU
15. New York Giants: Dan Williams DT, Tennessee
16. Tennessee Titans: Taylor Mays, FS, USC
17. San Francisco 49ers (via Carolina): Jerry Hughes DE/OLB, TCU
18. Pittsburgh Steelers: C.J Spiller RB, Clemson
19. Atlanta Falcons: Trevard Lindley CB, Kentucky
20. Houston Texans: Mike Iupati OG, Idaho
21. Baltimore Ravens: Brandon Ghee CB, Wake Forest
22. New York Jets: Brandon Spikes LB, Florida
23. Arizona Cardinals: Trent Williams OT, Oklahoma
24. Cincinnati Bengals: Terrence Cody NT, Alabama
25. New England Patriots: Everson Griffin DE, USC
26. Philadelphia Eagles: Brandon Graham DE, Michigan
27. Dallas Cowboys: Mardy Gilyard WR, Cincinnati
28. Green Bay Packers: Selvish Capers OT, West Viginia
29. Minnesota Vikings: Kyle Wilson CB, Boise State
30. San Diego Chargers: Greg Hardy OLB, Ole Miss
31. New Orleanes Saints: Donovan Warren CB, Michigan
32. Indianapolis Colts: Sean Weatherspoon LB, Missori
I like your top 3.

-- I dont see the Skins passing on Clausen when they won't have a shot at FA QBs. Shanahan will want a QB to groom and Clausen has the type of arm he likes.

-- Although Price may be a top 15 guy by the time the draft rolls around I highly doubt Nix goes after a smallish DT to fix this defense, especially with a likely move to the 3-4, which Nix has been around his entire career almost. If it's a DT that is not McCoy or Suh it will be Cody.

-- If Bradford is healthy and falls to us at 9 then I think that will be the pick.

-- Miami has one of the best OT tandems in the league with Long and Carey. I dont see why they would need to add another linemen. They also signed Smiley and Grove so their line is pretty solid.

-- I like picks 13-21

-- Jets already have Scott and Harris unless you think the want Spikes to play OLB for them which is a possibility.

-- 23-30 are good

-- Saints have invested a ton at the CB position. Porter 2 years ago (he is coming along nicely), Malcolm Jenkins last year, and Greer in FA. I dont see why they would take another CB. I see them going DL, their run D has suffered in the last month of the season.

[TigerJ]

Walter Football does have Price ranked as a first rounder, if not a top 10 pick. However, he calls him a 4-3 under tackle (3 technique) only. What do you think, Draftboy? If Buffalo's new coaching regime announces its intention to switch to a 3-4, would you continue to slot Price to the Bills?

[THATHURMANATOR]

Brian Price is an underclassmen who declared last week. He is not an lesser known player. He is actually a very dominant DT out of the Pac-10.

Price had 48 tackles, 23.5 TFL, 7 Sacks, and 2 FF as a Senior.
Tell me more DB... What are his measurables? Who does he compare to playing currently?

I can say I haven't heard much of him but I am no College Guru

[Dr. Pepper]

if bradford is there, we take him IMO.

[k-oneputt]

Wash/Shanahan are taking a qb. No way Shanahan is going with Campbell.

[LtFinFan66]

With all the defensive needs the Dolphins have...why would they take an OT in the 1st?

[Mahdi]

Walter Football does have Price ranked as a first rounder, if not a top 10 pick. However, he calls him a 4-3 under tackle (3 technique) only. What do you think, Draftboy? If Buffalo's new coaching regime announces its intention to switch to a 3-4, would you continue to slot Price to the Bills?
No way Price plays in a 3-4. 6'2 300 does not fit any position on a 3-man line.

Price is like a Tommie Harris or Warren Sapp. So if we stick to the Cover 2 or a even a 4-3 he would fit.

[PECKERWOOD]

Tate, Bradford, Tebow and Spikes would of been better picks than Brian Price.

[Ingtar33]

wow... um... I don't know...

1) STL has spent like 3 out of 4 first round picks on their defense, and 2 of their last 3 first round picks on their D-line. They won't draft a D-linemen this year. Not unless a gun was put to their head.

Past 1st Round Picks
2005 - Barron (OT)
2006 - Tye Hill (CB)
2007 - Carriker (DT)
2008 - Long (DE)
2009 - Smith (OT)

If the Rams don't take a QB I'll be stunned. As good as Suh is, i can't see the Rams front office selling 3 out of 4 1st round picks going to the D-line of a team that's missing pretty much everything, this would be like Matt Millen drafting yet another WR for the Lions

2) Lions are in desperate need for a lot of things but I think DT/OG/DE/S all lead the list; with Safety and Guard at the most needed and DT/DE in the 2nd step down. If the Rams go QB at number 1, the Lions will probably go with Suh at number 2. If the Rams go with Suh at number 1, then the Lions will probably go with Berry at number 2, as safety is a far bigger need then DT. (not to mention Berry is probably the 2nd or even 1st best player in this draft). Even if STL doesn't go with Suh at number 1, the lions might go with Berry at number 2.

3) Tampa Bay - Needs an DE more then a DT... and needs OL pretty badly as well. If Suh is off the Board and no OTs are gone i could see TB going OT. I could also see TB trading back at this point with a team with 2 first round picks; dark-horse at this pick would be Dez Bryant, as WR is also a need.

4) Redskins - Need a QB/WR/OT/S more then any other position in the Draft. This one will come down to what Shanahan wants. I think QB is the most likely choice unless Shanahan thinks he can work with the Disaster known as Campbell; at which point if Dez Bryant isn't off the board i could see Shanny going there. If Berry isn't off the board yet, he won't make it past Washington unless Shanahan has other plans for safety.

5) Chiefs - need a lot, but this one comes down to if Pioli thinks he's got the answer at QB. If he does he'll go OT or WR (if Bryant isn't off the board), if he thinks his QB is the problem he'll go QB.

6) Seahawks - needs QB/G/DE/OLB, probably need all 4 equally, with OT/DT a distant 2nd option... since i don't see a guard going this high, if no DEs are off the board or only one QB is off the board that's where they'll go with this pick. If STL goes with a QB first this would be an ideal trading partner with TB, to trade up and get Bradford.

7) Browns - needs a lot... though i think WR, QB, and all over on their defense are the biggest needs. The Browns came on toward the end of this year with Quinn under center but he was only "Trent Dilfer" good, and if only 1 QB is off the board at this point QB is a strong option for them. That said i think WR is their strongest need. That team has a horrible receiving corps, and if Bryant is still on the board he's gone here. With both Bryant and the top 2 QBs gone Cleveland will have to go with OT or anywhere on the Defense... that said WR is such a pressing need they might go with a WR even if Bryant is gone.

8) Raiders - This is the team that had Charley Frey closing out the year under center for them, while JaMarcus Russell watched from the sidelines. I highly suspect that there is zero chance of them passing on one of the top 2 QBs if he's left on the board at this point. They might even take a shot at the 3rd best QB if the top 2 are gone, their need is that big here. Russell is so bad they probably will cut him this off season rather then bring him back; and no team willingly goes into camp with Charely Frey, Brad Gradkowski and JP Losman as your top three options, that would be like going into camp with Edwards, Fitzpatrick and Hamdan. If for some reason the Raiders are hit with a wave of insanity and forgo QB, their next biggest needs are WR and OT. All bets are off if some WR/RB/DB runs a 4.2 as Al Davis will likely ignore his pressing needs and draft the speed.

9) Depends who's off the board. but if i was drafting for the team QB and OT would be the top 2 needs, with DT, DE and LB being slightly bellow them.... If the board above buffalo goes like i suggest.. the first wound will go something like this.

1) Clausen (QB, ND)
2) Suh (NT, NEB)
3) Okung (OT, OK)
4) Bradford (QB, OK)
5) Bryant (WR, OKSt)
6) McCoy (DT, OK)
7) Tate (WR, ND)
8) McCoy (QB, TEX) ~ (no combine star to pick yet, i could see McCoy wowing Davis with his measurables enough to reach for him, especially if he runs a good 40 and shows some good arm strength)
9) Williams (OT, OK)

Williams i think is probably the next best OT in the draft... I think he's good to play either Left or Right Tackle, though i think he could be special at both. Just an all round talent who'd improve our line a lot.

[Ingtar33]

i'm sorry draftboy. looks like i killed the thread.

It's been a while since i did that (i used to kill them all the time back in 2002-2003). Might not be a bad idea to swap this into the draft forum.

[jaycorp51]

If Anthony Davis is there when we pick and we pass on him (under the assumption that we don't pick up a LT in free agency) then I won't be happy. Hopefully we can get a DT like Arthur Jones in rd 2....I'd be extremely happy with that. I would address LB by signing Derrick Johnson.

[New Ro's Greatest]

The Bills are Going Anthony Davis if the draft looks like that. GO BILLS!!!!!!!

[SeatownBillsFan21]

Glad you wont be Drafting any players this year

[The Slave]

Same Rules as last time;
-Only Juniors who have thus far officially declared are being included
-Picks 21-32 are decided based on NFL standings turned upside down, not on projections

1. St. Louis Rams: Ndamakong Suh DT, Nebraska
2. Detroit Lions: Gerald McCoy DT, Oklahoma
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Eric Berry S, Tennessee
4. Washington Redskins: Joe Haden CB, Florida
5. Kansas City Chiefs: Russell Okung OT, Oklahoma State
6. Seattle Seahawks: Jimmy Clausen QB, Notre Dame
7. Cleveland Browns: Dez Bryant WR, Oklahoma State
8. Oakland Raiders: Bruce Campbell OT, Maryland
9. Buffalo Bills: Brian Price DT, UCLA
10. Jacksonville Jaguars: Sam Bradford QB, Oklahoma
11. Denver Broncos (via Chicago): Golden Tate WR, Notre Dame
12. Miami Dolphins: Anthony Davis OT, Rutgers
13. San Francisco 49ers: Charles Brown OT, USC
14. Seattle Seahawks (via Denver): Brandon LaFell WR, LSU
15. New York Giants: Dan Williams DT, Tennessee
16. Tennessee Titans: Taylor Mays, FS, USC
17. San Francisco 49ers (via Carolina): Jerry Hughes DE/OLB, TCU
18. Pittsburgh Steelers: C.J Spiller RB, Clemson
19. Atlanta Falcons: Trevard Lindley CB, Kentucky
20. Houston Texans: Mike Iupati OG, Idaho
21. Baltimore Ravens: Brandon Ghee CB, Wake Forest
22. New York Jets: Brandon Spikes LB, Florida
23. Arizona Cardinals: Trent Williams OT, Oklahoma
24. Cincinnati Bengals: Terrence Cody NT, Alabama
25. New England Patriots: Everson Griffin DE, USC
26. Philadelphia Eagles: Brandon Graham DE, Michigan
27. Dallas Cowboys: Mardy Gilyard WR, Cincinnati
28. Green Bay Packers: Selvish Capers OT, West Viginia
29. Minnesota Vikings: Kyle Wilson CB, Boise State
30. San Diego Chargers: Greg Hardy OLB, Ole Miss
31. New Orleanes Saints: Donovan Warren CB, Michigan
32. Indianapolis Colts: Sean Weatherspoon LB, Missori

I have a hard time believing the Bills will pass on Bradford, man. His abilities and character could make him a franchise QB.

[DraftBoy]

I like your top 3.

-- I dont see the Skins passing on Clausen when they won't have a shot at FA QBs. Shanahan will want a QB to groom and Clausen has the type of arm he likes.

-- Although Price may be a top 15 guy by the time the draft rolls around I highly doubt Nix goes after a smallish DT to fix this defense, especially with a likely move to the 3-4, which Nix has been around his entire career almost. If it's a DT that is not McCoy or Suh it will be Cody.

-- If Bradford is healthy and falls to us at 9 then I think that will be the pick.

-- Miami has one of the best OT tandems in the league with Long and Carey. I dont see why they would need to add another linemen. They also signed Smiley and Grove so their line is pretty solid.

-- I like picks 13-21

-- Jets already have Scott and Harris unless you think the want Spikes to play OLB for them which is a possibility.

-- 23-30 are good

-- Saints have invested a ton at the CB position. Porter 2 years ago (he is coming along nicely), Malcolm Jenkins last year, and Greer in FA. I dont see why they would take another CB. I see them going DL, their run D has suffered in the last month of the season.

Campbell may not be gone in Washington, if its an uncapped year he may just be an RFA ( I think). And Shanny may keep him around for a year just to use as a stabilizer while he changes other things.

I dont see how Price is small...he is 6'2, 300. Its not like he is 285 or so.

Bradford could be the pick but personally I dont like any of the QB's in this class that much. Id rather stick with Brohm at this point for next season.

Miami pick was an oversight.

I think Spikes is an OLB in th 3-4 system.

New Orleans CB's were ravaged with injuries and they needed depth so bad they signed two guys who had been out of football in Chris McAllister and Mike McKenzie. They need more CB's, plus Jenkins could be moved to S where he may be better suited anyways. They do need help at LB as well, but they've spent 4 first round picks on DL in the past 7 years (Sullivan, Ellis, Grant, Smith).

[DraftBoy]

Walter Football does have Price ranked as a first rounder, if not a top 10 pick. However, he calls him a 4-3 under tackle (3 technique) only. What do you think, Draftboy? If Buffalo's new coaching regime announces its intention to switch to a 3-4, would you continue to slot Price to the Bills?

Price is a 4-3 DT, or could be a 3-4 DE. He would need to get stronger to play in the 3-4 DE position and his height would be a little bit of an issue, but he could do it and has the quickness to play it well.

I dont know that Id slot Price to the Bills though at that point, I think he's a better 4-3 DT prospect.

[DraftBoy]

wow... um... I don't know...

1) STL has spent like 3 out of 4 first round picks on their defense, and 2 of their last 3 first round picks on their D-line. They won't draft a D-linemen this year. Not unless a gun was put to their head.

Past 1st Round Picks
2005 - Barron (OT)
2006 - Tye Hill (CB)
2007 - Carriker (DT)
2008 - Long (DE)
2009 - Smith (OT)

If the Rams don't take a QB I'll be stunned. As good as Suh is, i can't see the Rams front office selling 3 out of 4 1st round picks going to the D-line of a team that's missing pretty much everything, this would be like Matt Millen drafting yet another WR for the Lions

2) Lions are in desperate need for a lot of things but I think DT/OG/DE/S all lead the list; with Safety and Guard at the most needed and DT/DE in the 2nd step down. If the Rams go QB at number 1, the Lions will probably go with Suh at number 2. If the Rams go with Suh at number 1, then the Lions will probably go with Berry at number 2, as safety is a far bigger need then DT. (not to mention Berry is probably the 2nd or even 1st best player in this draft). Even if STL doesn't go with Suh at number 1, the lions might go with Berry at number 2.

3) Tampa Bay - Needs an DE more then a DT... and needs OL pretty badly as well. If Suh is off the Board and no OTs are gone i could see TB going OT. I could also see TB trading back at this point with a team with 2 first round picks; dark-horse at this pick would be Dez Bryant, as WR is also a need.

4) Redskins - Need a QB/WR/OT/S more then any other position in the Draft. This one will come down to what Shanahan wants. I think QB is the most likely choice unless Shanahan thinks he can work with the Disaster known as Campbell; at which point if Dez Bryant isn't off the board i could see Shanny going there. If Berry isn't off the board yet, he won't make it past Washington unless Shanahan has other plans for safety.

5) Chiefs - need a lot, but this one comes down to if Pioli thinks he's got the answer at QB. If he does he'll go OT or WR (if Bryant isn't off the board), if he thinks his QB is the problem he'll go QB.

6) Seahawks - needs QB/G/DE/OLB, probably need all 4 equally, with OT/DT a distant 2nd option... since i don't see a guard going this high, if no DEs are off the board or only one QB is off the board that's where they'll go with this pick. If STL goes with a QB first this would be an ideal trading partner with TB, to trade up and get Bradford.

7) Browns - needs a lot... though i think WR, QB, and all over on their defense are the biggest needs. The Browns came on toward the end of this year with Quinn under center but he was only "Trent Dilfer" good, and if only 1 QB is off the board at this point QB is a strong option for them. That said i think WR is their strongest need. That team has a horrible receiving corps, and if Bryant is still on the board he's gone here. With both Bryant and the top 2 QBs gone Cleveland will have to go with OT or anywhere on the Defense... that said WR is such a pressing need they might go with a WR even if Bryant is gone.

8) Raiders - This is the team that had Charley Frey closing out the year under center for them, while JaMarcus Russell watched from the sidelines. I highly suspect that there is zero chance of them passing on one of the top 2 QBs if he's left on the board at this point. They might even take a shot at the 3rd best QB if the top 2 are gone, their need is that big here. Russell is so bad they probably will cut him this off season rather then bring him back; and no team willingly goes into camp with Charely Frey, Brad Gradkowski and JP Losman as your top three options, that would be like going into camp with Edwards, Fitzpatrick and Hamdan. If for some reason the Raiders are hit with a wave of insanity and forgo QB, their next biggest needs are WR and OT. All bets are off if some WR/RB/DB runs a 4.2 as Al Davis will likely ignore his pressing needs and draft the speed.

9) Depends who's off the board. but if i was drafting for the team QB and OT would be the top 2 needs, with DT, DE and LB being slightly bellow them.... If the board above buffalo goes like i suggest.. the first wound will go something like this.

1) Clausen (QB, ND)
2) Suh (NT, NEB)
3) Okung (OT, OK)
4) Bradford (QB, OK)
5) Bryant (WR, OKSt)
6) McCoy (DT, OK)
7) Tate (WR, ND)
8) McCoy (QB, TEX) ~ (no combine star to pick yet, i could see McCoy wowing Davis with his measurables enough to reach for him, especially if he runs a good 40 and shows some good arm strength)
9) Williams (OT, OK)

Williams i think is probably the next best OT in the draft... I think he's good to play either Left or Right Tackle, though i think he could be special at both. Just an all round talent who'd improve our line a lot.

1. St. Louis-New Coach, New Regime, I tend to hope that they don't care where other picks were spent and they just want to get better. They have a million and one holes to fill, if they choose to take a QB who isn't even a top 5 talent in the draft at #1, then that proves they still have no idea what the hell they are doing. Im hoping with Spags defensive minded approach there is no way they can pass on Suh.

2. It was between Berry and McCoy here. People don't like safeties this high, which is why it went to McCoy. It was basically down to that.

3. Tampa also needs DB help as well, which is why I think the top three at this point will be, Suh, McCoy, Berry. Berry would help build a stable defensive backfield with Talib, and allow them to build the line starting in Round 2 where there are plenty of DE prospects available.

4. Washington very well could go QB, I just dont see any QB as a worth a top 5 pick.

5. I hope the Cheifs go QB, and I think they may, right now its 50/50

I dont disagree with many of the rest of your assesments, except in regards to Trent Williams. He has fallen completely out of my first round now after a less than stellar year that has left me wondering if he is even a LT prospect in the NFL anymore. His stock has taken a hit similar to Phil Loadholt's stock last year. I really hope he is not the pick at 9.

[DraftBoy]

i'm sorry draftboy. looks like i killed the thread.

It's been a while since i did that (i used to kill them all the time back in 2002-2003). Might not be a bad idea to swap this into the draft forum.

No need to apologize, just good things to discuss. I have no power to move them and they seem to get more replies here anyways.

[k-oneputt]

The knock on Spikes is his speed. If he doesn't run well at the combine he is 2-3rd rounder. Spikes will be a inside lb in the 3-4.

[DraftBoy]

The knock on Spikes is his speed. If he doesn't run well at the combine he is 2-3rd rounder. Spikes will be a inside lb in the 3-4.

Everything for almost every player depends on their combine. If he doesnt run well though you are right he could fall to round 2. I dont see him dropping all the way to 3 though.

[Mahdi]

Price is a 4-3 DT, or could be a 3-4 DE. He would need to get stronger to play in the 3-4 DE position and his height would be a little bit of an issue, but he could do it and has the quickness to play it well.

I dont know that Id slot Price to the Bills though at that point, I think he's a better 4-3 DT prospect.
That's what I mean when I say Price is too small for a 3-4 DL position. He is too light to be a NT and too short to play DE (5-technique).

This guy is a penetrator like Sapp and Harris. Plus I really don't agree with drafting 5-technique guys too high because IMO they are a dime a dozen. You can easily grab a guy in the 3rd or 4th that can play 5-tech.

Pioli drafting Tyson Jackson at #5 last year was a big mistake IMO. The only exception to that is drafting a guy like Seymour or if you trust Dunlap then those are guys that can be difference makers at the 5- tech which is rare.

[DraftBoy]

That's what I mean when I say Price is too small for a 3-4 DL position. He is too light to be a NT and too short to play DE (5-technique).

This guy is a penetrator like Sapp and Harris. Plus I really don't agree with drafting 5-technique guys too high because IMO they are a dime a dozen. You can easily grab a guy in the 3rd or 4th that can play 5-tech.

Pioli drafting Tyson Jackson at #5 last year was a big mistake IMO. The only exception to that is drafting a guy like Seymour or if you trust Dunlap then those are guys that can be difference makers at the 5- tech which is rare.

He has all the physical tools to play the 5 technique imo, an I really hate using height as a factor in deciding against drafting a guy, especially along the lines. I still love him a 4-3 DT prospect.

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He has all the physical tools to play the 5 technique imo, an I really hate using height as a factor in deciding against drafting a guy, especially along the lines. I still love him a 4-3 DT prospect.
Normally height shouldn't be a consideration, but when you're drafting for the 3-4 it is a requirement.

You need those 5-tech guys to be tall for leverage and for screening the QBs vision and batting down passes.

Price could succeed at it, but he is not ideal so if we are moving to the 3-4 the pick wouldn't make much sense.

We could definitely use a guy of his skill set for the Cover 2 though. Since Fewell has been here he never found that guy to get in the backfield from the DT position.