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  • patmoran2006
    Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
    • Dec 2005
    • 19840

    The case for Billick

    I wrote this on Saturday night.



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  • Prov401
    President of WADL (Whitner Anti-Defamation League)
    • Aug 2008
    • 1651

    #2
    Re: The case for Billick

    I wouldn't be happy with Billick. He was lucky enough to have Ozzie upstairs, drafting and providing him with some of the best prospects out of college. The guy is supposed to be known for his offense. His offense. Offense. When was anybody EVER scared of facing the unbelievably high scoring Ravens during his tenure? He's mediocre, and was lucky to have people like Marvin Lewis, and Rex Ryan running his D. He is bad at developing QB's, and I'd actually be f'n pissed if we get this guy. The ring is a smokescreen. Hey, the Bears had a great D in 1985. Ditka got his ring. But when he came back to coaching, he did squat. Some people in this world get lucky. Billick and Dilfer are two of em'.
    Last edited by Prov401; 01-04-2010, 12:39 PM.

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    • Nighthawk
      Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
      • Jul 2002
      • 15437

      #3
      Re: The case for Billick

      Originally posted by TE2Hard-E81
      I wouldn't be happy with Billick. He was lucky enough to have Ozzie upstairs, drafting and providing him with some of the best prospects out of college. The guy is supposed to be known for his offense. His offense. Offense. When was anybody EVER scared of facing the unbelievably high scoring Ravens during his tenure? He's mediocre, and was lucky to have people like Marvin Lewis, and Rex Ryan running his D. He is bad at developing QB's, and I'd actually be f'n pissed if we get this guy. The ring is a smokescreen. Hey, the Bears had a great D in 1985. Ditka got his ring. But when he came back to coaching, he did squat. Some people in this world get lucky. Billick and Dilfer are two of em'.
      You may not like him, but he wasn't mediocre.

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      • patmoran2006
        Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
        • Dec 2005
        • 19840

        #4
        Re: The case for Billick

        one thing you cant take away from him is he's been impeccable and hiring great assistants and coordinators


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        • homeslice5484
          Registered User
          • Jul 2008
          • 1042

          #5
          Re: The case for Billick

          we need good coordinators, not the ones we have had under Jauron



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          • Nighthawk
            Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
            • Jul 2002
            • 15437

            #6
            Re: The case for Billick

            Originally posted by patmoran2006
            one thing you cant take away from him is he's been impeccable and hiring great assistants and coordinators
            And that is a HUGE factor in picking a new HC. A guy with a reputation for being successful in the NFL will most likely be able to get better assistant coaches then a new guy who's never had to do it. I'm not ready to watch a new guy "try" to put together a good staff. I want a guy who "has" a good staff ready to go!

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            • Michael82
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 82328

              #7
              Re: The case for Billick

              I wouldn't mind Billick! I still prefer Cowher or Marty Schottenheimer. But Billick is definitely up there.

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              • Demon
                Registered User
                • Mar 2003
                • 4047

                #8
                Re: The case for Billick

                Originally posted by Nighthawk
                And that is a HUGE factor in picking a new HC. A guy with a reputation for being successful in the NFL will most likely be able to get better assistant coaches then a new guy who's never had to do it. I'm not ready to watch a new guy "try" to put together a good staff. I want a guy who "has" a good staff ready to go!
                That's the thing right there. He has tons of connections and people will want to be on a staff with him. Hiring guys like Zimmer or Grimm will probably mean we'll hire unproven coordinators like Alex Van Pelt or something. We need guys who know what their doing.
                Impossible is Nothing.


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                • WeAreArthurMoates
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 1642

                  #9
                  Re: The case for Billick

                  Originally posted by Demon
                  That's the thing right there. He has tons of connections and people will want to be on a staff with him. Hiring guys like Zimmer or Grimm will probably mean we'll hire unproven coordinators like Alex Van Pelt or something. We need guys who know what their doing.
                  That's the biggest reason I want Billick. He knows you have to have good experienced coordinators to make it work. Wonder who he has in mind.

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                  • madness
                    Registered User
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 13690

                    #10
                    Re: The case for Billick

                    Game show contestant

                    Shortly before beginning his coaching career, Billick appeared as a contestant on Match Game PM in 1977, losing to Marla Marshall.[13] Panelist Richard Dawson remarked after Billick's loss: "Failed at football. Failed at Match Game. Where will you go now?" [14]


                    Answer: The Buffalo Bills

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                    • B-DON
                      hi
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 1985

                      #11
                      Re: The case for Billick

                      Originally posted by TE2Hard-E81
                      I wouldn't be happy with Billick. He was lucky enough to have Ozzie upstairs, drafting and providing him with some of the best prospects out of college. The guy is supposed to be known for his offense. His offense. Offense. When was anybody EVER scared of facing the unbelievably high scoring Ravens during his tenure? He's mediocre, and was lucky to have people like Marvin Lewis, and Rex Ryan running his D. He is bad at developing QB's, and I'd actually be f'n pissed if we get this guy. The ring is a smokescreen. Hey, the Bears had a great D in 1985. Ditka got his ring. But when he came back to coaching, he did squat. Some people in this world get lucky. Billick and Dilfer are two of em'.
                      when he had the talent he tore it up with the vikings. not his fault boller is never gonna make it anywhere in this league

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                      • Prov401
                        President of WADL (Whitner Anti-Defamation League)
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 1651

                        #12
                        Re: The case for Billick

                        Originally posted by B-DON
                        when he had the talent he tore it up with the vikings. not his fault boller is never gonna make it anywhere in this league
                        I'm not talking about his tenure with the Vikings. I'm talking about his tenure with the Ravens. The one where he was at the bottom of every offensive category in the NFL for nearly a decade.

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                        • Jeff1220
                          H to the 12:20
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 6137

                          #13
                          Re: The case for Billick

                          Originally posted by B-DON
                          when he had the talent he tore it up with the vikings. not his fault boller is never gonna make it anywhere in this league
                          Actually, it is his fault - Boller was his pick.

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                          • Philagape
                            WIN NOW
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 19432

                            #14
                            Re: The case for Billick

                            Originally posted by Jeff1220
                            Actually, it is his fault - Boller was his pick.
                            Can you back this up please? Not that I don't believe you, but it's unusual for a coach to overrule a GM.
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                            • ParanoidAndroid
                              My battery is low and it's getting dark.
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 16855

                              #15
                              Re: The case for Billick

                              If he has some say in player acquisition, he'll put together a better offense than he had in Baltimore. They gave him a great O-line and zero at the skill positions. The talent was all on the defensive side of the ball.

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