Bills fans doing us proud again!!!!

[Dr. Lecter]

An Olean man passed out and collapsed into a snowbank with his two children and a third child standing around him crying after Sunday's Buffalo Bills game in Orchard Park, authorities said.

Jeffrey A. Miles, 34, was charged with three counts of endangering the welfare of a child, Orchard Park police said.

Miles was transferred to an emergency medical station at Ralph Wilson Stadium for treatment.

Officers called the children's mothers in Olean and made arrangements for the women to pick them up, police said.

The harsh weather at Sunday's game did not curtail rowdy and drunken behavior on the part of other fans.

Orchard Park police also arrested a Toronto man on charges of reckless endangerment and assault after he threw two propane cylinders into a bonfire. Two people sustained burns and required treatment at Erie County Medical Center.

John Musikka, 40, was charged in that incident and later released on $300 bail.


http://www.buffalonews.com/258/story/912027.html

There are way too many *******s at games. This is embarrassing.

[LtFinFan66]

figures a canuck would throw propane tanks onto a bonfire...natural selection failed yesterday in that case

[Beastie Bills]

LOL. My cousins were at the game yesterday, and one tackled the other. The one who got tackled got the wind knocked out of him, so some woman bystander called 911! He got forced to go the hospital and missed the game!

laugh out loud!

[justasportsfan]

lock him up , take his licencse away.

[THRILLHO]

LOL. My cousins were at the game yesterday, and one tackled the other. The one who got tackled got the wind knocked out of him, so some woman bystander called 911! He got forced to go the hospital and missed the game!

laugh out loud!

Haha, that sucks. That woman sounds like a :dink:

[Jan Reimers]

I've been to games in a number of cities. Idiotic, rude, drunken, and nasty behavior is not confined to Bills' fans.

[THRILLHO]

I've been to games in a number of cities. Idiotic, rude, drunken, and nasty behavior is not confined to Bills' fans.

But, are we the best at it?

[justasportsfan]

I've been to games in a number of cities. Idiotic, rude, drunken, and nasty behavior is not confined to Bills' fans.


I agree. We have THE BEST fans but unfortunately ,we also have the dumbest fans as well.

[shelby]

As cold as it was, i'm not surprised people were drinking to excess. Unfortunately, that tends to cloud your judgement.

[THATHURMANATOR]

I had a sober perspective walking through the parking lot for once. Sunday was super tame.

[Jan Reimers]

As cold as it was, i'm not surprised people were drinking to excess. Unfortunately, that tends to cloud your judgement.
Makes me smrater!

[Forward_Lateral]

figures a canuck would throw propane tanks onto a bonfire...natural selection failed yesterday in that case

Dick!

[LtFinFan66]

Dick!:rofl: sorry

[Forward_Lateral]

It's ok, I know you didn't mean it .

[JD]

Wah wah wahhh 78,000 people and a handful of *******s, stfu go watch curling

[THATHURMANATOR]

Wah wah wahhh 78,000 people and a handful of *******s, stfu go watch curling
Seriously.

[Dr. Lecter]

Wah wah wahhh 78,000 people and a handful of *******s, stfu go watch curling

Passing out in front of your kids is the epitome of unacceptable.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Passing out in front of your kids is the epitome of unacceptable.
What does that have to do we me or any Bills fan for that matter?

[Griff]

people are stupid everywhere Lecter

[ParanoidAndroid]

Sporting events are supposed to be family and kid friendly. For some reason, a lot of people think it's acceptable to drink excessively and attend a game. I would say that it is not okay to do that. It's a choice, of course, and a choice we should continue to have because the majority of us know when to slow down or stop. If we want to continue to have that choice, we're going to have to do our part and report the idiots as well as cut off our friends before they get to that point.

[Historian]

Only *******s can't handle their liquor.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Sporting events are supposed to be family and kid friendly. For some reason, a lot of people think it's acceptable to drink excessively and attend a game. I would say that it is not okay to do that. It's a choice, of course, and a choice we should continue to have because the majority of us know when to slow down or stop. If we want to continue to have that choice, we're going to have to do our part and report the idiots as well as cut off our friends before they get to that point.
Yeah Sabres games maybe. Bills games are NOT designed to be lame and family friendly. I do wholeheardidly agree people should not get out of control and if they do they can be escorted out, but lets not kid ourselves to think that NFL games aren't designed for rowdy people tailgaiting.

[Historian]

Bullfeathers.

These aren't Bills fans. They're probably not even football fans.

These are losers who have to go out and get blottoed because their lives are so pathetic.

Drinking at a football game is an unalienable right.

Idiots who go there to do nothing but drink shouldn't even be let in the door.

[BlackMetalNinja]

It's pretty sad when my first thought was "Hey Olean made the news!" I grew up 15 minutes from there and spent 4 years in college in that town as well. Being that there is nothing else to do there, you'd think they'd be able to handle their liquor.

[jaybo_05]

Yeah Sabres games maybe. Bills games are NOT designed to be lame and family friendly. I do wholeheardidly agree people should not get out of control and if they do they can be escorted out, but lets not kid ourselves to think that NFL games aren't designed for rowdy people tailgaiting.

I very rarely post on here, but occasionally something like this sparks my interest and I can't help but open my mouth.

I could not agree more with Thurmanator on this one. I in no way condone people drinking to the point they pass out or lose interest in the game and want to fight anyone around them. But, it is a simple fact that in order to make football games "kid friendly" and enjoyable experiences for EVERYONE you have to water them down in ways that take away from the true nature of the sport.

Football games should be roudy, loud, and smell like beer. Period. Ive had Bills season tickets for years now and the reason I keep coming back is because the passion of Bills fans is unparalleled, when I see measures taken to subdue them it makes me sick.

One game this year a lady who was sitting two seats over from me complained when I was banging on the chairback because she felt it was upsetting her young teenage son who was attending the game with her. I am sorry, but catering to attitudes like hers, and disallowing standing during games or smashing the back of your chair/bench is the fastest way to turn Ralph Wilson Stadium into Gillette Stadium or Cowboys Stadium where we'll have people drinking wine and sipping martinis while sitting on their hands.

To discourage rowdiness is to rip the heart out of true football fans and to spoil the game for those to whom it means the most. If your 13 year old can't handle the heat then keep them out of the kitchen. Cause if you force us to turn down the heat, we as Buffalo Bills fans lose our identity.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Yeah Sabres games maybe. Bills games are NOT designed to be lame and family friendly. I do wholeheardidly agree people should not get out of control and if they do they can be escorted out, but lets not kid ourselves to think that NFL games aren't designed for rowdy people tailgaiting.

They're not, as you say, "designed for rowdy people tailgaiting." It is tolerated to a degree, but once that line is crossed, it is not tolerated. The out-of-control people are exactly who we are talking about here.
The NFL most certainly markets their product as family-friendly. I'm not sure we should definitively equate family-friendly with being "lame."

[shelby]

Doesn't the Ralph have a "family friendly" section, as many other stadiums do?
Just curious.

[BlackMetalNinja]

Doesn't the Ralph have a "family friendly" section, as many other stadiums do?
Just curious.Yup, Section 224-228 is the Tops Family Zone or whatever... No alcohol allowed. That doesn't do much good for the parking lots though. It's pretty much expected if you show up early enough to tailgate, you're going to see some people that are a bit out of hand.

[JD]

Passing out in front of your kids is the epitome of unacceptable.

You're going to tell me that's never happened at another sporting event or public outing? Must only be those ******* bills fans!

[JD]

I very rarely post on here, but occasionally something like this sparks my interest and I can't help but open my mouth.

I could not agree more with Thurmanator on this one. I in no way condone people drinking to the point they pass out or lose interest in the game and want to fight anyone around them. But, it is a simple fact that in order to make football games "kid friendly" and enjoyable experiences for EVERYONE you have to water them down in ways that take away from the true nature of the sport.

Football games should be roudy, loud, and smell like beer. Period. Ive had Bills season tickets for years now and the reason I keep coming back is because the passion of Bills fans is unparalleled, when I see measures taken to subdue them it makes me sick.

One game this year a lady who was sitting two seats over from me complained when I was banging on the chairback because she felt it was upsetting her young teenage son who was attending the game with her. I am sorry, but catering to attitudes like hers, and disallowing standing during games or smashing the back of your chair/bench is the fastest way to turn Ralph Wilson Stadium into Gillette Stadium or Cowboys Stadium where we'll have people drinking wine and sipping martinis while sitting on their hands.

To discourage rowdiness is to rip the heart out of true football fans and to spoil the game for those to whom it means the most. If your 13 year old can't handle the heat then keep them out of the kitchen. Cause if you force us to turn down the heat, we as Buffalo Bills fans lose our identity.

Thank you. Please post more often, seriously.

The Buffalo Bills are KNOWN to have the best tailgating atmosphere (outside of green bay). It's almost as if people forget what 90% of tailgating involves... ALCOHOL! So of COURSE we have more arrests than the average fan base, we are upheld to that standard of craziness. I know damn well, when I go to a Bills game I am getting hammered/plastered/comatose/destroyed/toasted/shwasted or whatever you'd like to call it. Here is a tip, don't bring your children to the tailgate, sit in the family section and keep to yourself.

For the complainers on here that freak out every time they hear of someone being arrested at a Bills game, please stay at home and suck off the remaining of your social security. You're probably the same type of people that threw peanuts at my friends and I who were standing up to cheer an interception. I'll never sit midfield lower bowl again, it's like being at bingo following a funeral unless you're in the first few rows.

[trapezeus]

heading to the billsgames these days suck. especially when the team sucks. because it's just a bunch of alcoholics that are beligerent, don't watch the game, constantly going on beer runs, disrupting everything that football fans want.

Scream, dance, do whatever, but be intune with the game. know what is going on. if you are coming back to your seat with two beers every 12 minutes (not football minutes, but real minutes), and you pass out in your seats, or start a fight, or just become so obnoxious that an entire section can't tolerate you,you should be forced to leave.

Drink, but watch the game.

Right now, leaving the stadium with college kids who can't handle their liquor screaming at everyone passing by, the passed out drunks, the beligerents, dodging fights in the parking lots, watching for flying projectiles, it's like a war.

I'll say this, when the bills win, the drunks are much friendlier and the atmosphere is a lot more fun. but there are a lot of *******s who need to be stripped of their attendence rights.

[seanbillsfan]

It's pretty sad when my first thought was "Hey Olean made the news!" I grew up 15 minutes from there and spent 4 years in college in that town as well. Being that there is nothing else to do there, you'd think they'd be able to handle their liquor.

ha i live in olean, that is a true story!

[ParanoidAndroid]

I very rarely post on here, but occasionally something like this sparks my interest and I can't help but open my mouth.

I could not agree more with Thurmanator on this one. I in no way condone people drinking to the point they pass out or lose interest in the game and want to fight anyone around them. But, it is a simple fact that in order to make football games "kid friendly" and enjoyable experiences for EVERYONE you have to water them down in ways that take away from the true nature of the sport.

Football games should be roudy, loud, and smell like beer. Period. Ive had Bills season tickets for years now and the reason I keep coming back is because the passion of Bills fans is unparalleled, when I see measures taken to subdue them it makes me sick.

One game this year a lady who was sitting two seats over from me complained when I was banging on the chairback because she felt it was upsetting her young teenage son who was attending the game with her. I am sorry, but catering to attitudes like hers, and disallowing standing during games or smashing the back of your chair/bench is the fastest way to turn Ralph Wilson Stadium into Gillette Stadium or Cowboys Stadium where we'll have people drinking wine and sipping martinis while sitting on their hands.

To discourage rowdiness is to rip the heart out of true football fans and to spoil the game for those to whom it means the most. If your 13 year old can't handle the heat then keep them out of the kitchen. Cause if you force us to turn down the heat, we as Buffalo Bills fans lose our identity.

Again...rowdiness is one thing, but getting piss drunk to the point of passing out or falling out of your aisle is another thing, completely.
Weeding out the idiots will preserve the rowdiness.

When lives are endangered, rules have to be made. That's the way society works. Unfortunately, the few can utterly screw things up for the many.

Get rowdy all you want! Just don't put anyone else in danger. That's the point here.

If someone in front of you doesn't want you to bang on their chair, don't bang on it. It's their chair that they payed money to sit in. Bang on your own chair. No big deal. I personally wouldn't care because I would be standing up, but not everyone is like us.

[Cleve]

I can't believe posters are pleading this guy's case. To get so drunk that one passes out in a public place, with one's children in tow, is DISGRACEFUL and shouldn't be tolerated. I feel sorry for the kids growing up with such a loser for a father.

[jaybo_05]

Again...rowdiness is one thing, but getting piss drunk to the point of passing out or falling out of your aisle is another thing, completely.
Weeding out the idiots will preserve the rowdiness.

When lives are endangered, rules have to be made. That's the way society works. Unfortunately, the few can utterly screw things up for the many.

Get rowdy all you want! Just don't put anyone else in danger. That's the point here.

If someone in front of you doesn't want you to bang on their chair, don't bang on it. It's their chair that they payed money to sit in. Bang on your own chair. No big deal. I personally wouldn't care because I would be standing up, but not everyone is like us.

I completely agree with you, and believe the line needs to be drawn somewhere. I guess what I would say is that I disagree with the approach the Bills seem to be taking. And where they're drawing the line.

Getting out of control and causing serious danger to other people should not be taken lightly. If you pass out from drinking while being the sole supervisor of young children I believe you should be held criminally responsible for that negligence. People who do things like that should be punished to the extreme end of the law. They should be made examples of.

However, I believe that far too often loud, rowdy and even borderline obnoxious people are unfairly lumped into this same category. Football stadiums should be not be a place where you're grandmother and her friends feel comfortable having afternoon tea.

Collectively, as fans we can literally influence the course of a game by being loud. How cool is that? People should feel obligated to make noise, and any policy introduced by the organization that might deter people from contributing should be strongly reconsidered.

Be loud, be proud, be considerate? Considerate of who? The lady who complains when I bang my own chairback? F that. I'm the one trying to help my team win a game.

[Dr. Lecter]

However, I believe that far too often loud, rowdy and even borderline obnoxious people are unfairly lumped into this same category. Football stadiums should be not be a place where you're grandmother and her friends feel comfortable having afternoon tea.



No, a football game should be comfortable for anybody and anyone.

Grandma, kids and all of us. It is a public sitting.

[THATHURMANATOR]

I very rarely post on here, but occasionally something like this sparks my interest and I can't help but open my mouth.

I could not agree more with Thurmanator on this one. I in no way condone people drinking to the point they pass out or lose interest in the game and want to fight anyone around them. But, it is a simple fact that in order to make football games "kid friendly" and enjoyable experiences for EVERYONE you have to water them down in ways that take away from the true nature of the sport.

Football games should be roudy, loud, and smell like beer. Period. Ive had Bills season tickets for years now and the reason I keep coming back is because the passion of Bills fans is unparalleled, when I see measures taken to subdue them it makes me sick.

One game this year a lady who was sitting two seats over from me complained when I was banging on the chairback because she felt it was upsetting her young teenage son who was attending the game with her. I am sorry, but catering to attitudes like hers, and disallowing standing during games or smashing the back of your chair/bench is the fastest way to turn Ralph Wilson Stadium into Gillette Stadium or Cowboys Stadium where we'll have people drinking wine and sipping martinis while sitting on their hands.

To discourage rowdiness is to rip the heart out of true football fans and to spoil the game for those to whom it means the most. If your 13 year old can't handle the heat then keep them out of the kitchen. Cause if you force us to turn down the heat, we as Buffalo Bills fans lose our identity.
:bf1:

Family environment = LAME

[THATHURMANATOR]

No, a football game should be comfortable for anybody and anyone.

Grandma, kids and all of us. It is a public sitting.
Sure if you want to turn the Ralph into a LAME environment then I do agree.

[El Guapo]

No, a football game should be comfortable for anybody and anyone.

Grandma, kids and all of us. It is a public sitting.

I'm not even defending the drinking (Lord knows I do my share each game), but that is naive.

Mardi Gras is a public setting. I guess New Orleans ought to clean it up so my eight year old can be in the Quarter for the parades...

[El Guapo]

No, a football game should be comfortable for anybody and anyone.

Especially the opposing team. We wouldn't want them to feel like they were in a hostile environment. That might have a negative impact on their playing ability.