The Scoop on Joe Logan [Archive] - BillsZone.com

patmoran2006

01-07-2010, 11:17 AM

Who the hell is Joe Logan?

For Buffalo Bills fans right now, it’s the million dollar question. The no-name from East Aurora has created quite the commotion in recent days that began innocent enough Monday morning when writing on his small East Aurorar.org website that the Buffalo Bills would fire their entire coaching staff and the team would meet with Bill Cowher on Tuesday.

Well, it wouldn’t have been a big deal, had it not been for the fact he reported it more than four hours before they actually happened. Pro Football Talk (http://www.eastaurora.org/article.aspx?artno=1228) talked picked up the story and by the end of the day Logan became a man people wanted to know about.

I just spoke to him at length via telephone.

FULL STORY (http://www.buffalosportsdaily.com/2010/01/the-scoop-on-joe-logan/)

BigZ

01-07-2010, 11:21 AM

Nice story Pat.

NOT THE DUDE...

01-07-2010, 11:22 AM

well espn has lots of explaining to do, this is starting to reveal that espn has an agenda against buffalo...

bigbub2352

01-07-2010, 11:22 AM

man just someone confirm something this is getting old pretty quick
at least tell us ur gonna go on the cheap and hire a hot cordinator just like u did with fail greg williams and fail mike mularky

hydro

01-07-2010, 11:22 AM

Wonder if PFT will pick this up.

hydro

01-07-2010, 11:23 AM

man just someone confirm something this is getting old pretty quick
at least tell us ur gonna go on the cheap and hire a hot cordinator just like u did with fail greg williams and fail mike mularky

But you are still here? I can't stand this complaining. If you don't like it just wait for the official news from the Bills.

patmoran2006

01-07-2010, 11:26 AM

I cant give any insight about Cowher with that, only he (source) knows

My objective was for people to get to know a little more about this "mystery reporter"

RandolphDuke

01-07-2010, 11:30 AM

Joe Logan is about to become the most liked person or the most hated person in the eyes of people on this board.

DraftBoy

01-07-2010, 11:32 AM

ddaryl

01-07-2010, 11:41 AM

What I can tell you is that Logan isn’t an amateurish prankster. He’s quite the business man and comes highly regarded in his Village of East Aurora. The Rochester Institute of Technology graduate is a staple in the business and political community. He’s a System Development Specialist at Mattel and the President of the School Association at Immaculate, a title he’s held for three and half years. He’s also on the Board of Directors at the Toy Town Museum.

seriously, a guy with this much back ground and aspiration is not going to toss it into the garbage making crap up for the sake of hits to his town of East Aurora website

Coach Sal

01-07-2010, 11:42 AM

EXCELLENT piece, Pat.

You get a lot of props for being THE person who was able to talk to him when everyone was asking who the Hell he is!!

Coach Sal

01-07-2010, 11:43 AM

seriously, a guy with this much back ground and aspiration is not going to toss it into the garbage making crap up for the sake of hits to his town of East Aurora website

I would hope not.

He personally has a lot to lose.....but so does everyone he "represents."

TheBrownBear

01-07-2010, 11:43 AM

Awesome Pat! Thanks for following-up on this. I am a skeptic by nature, but even I'm starting to Billieve.

01-07-2010, 11:44 AM

..isn't it possible he fudged the time stamp? I mean, he majored in computer science.

Coach Sal

01-07-2010, 11:44 AM

Quick Question Pat:

You spoke with the man and your reports seems to indicate his personality type is more mellowed out, and not a big "I want the spotlight type", but then in his tweet he took a shot at Schefter, who he supposedly didn't know who he was? His words seem to be saying one thing (his quotes in the article) but his actions another.

Thoughts?

Great question. I thought of that myself.

Maybe his "source" asked him to tweet that, tihnking it would be funny?!

It's weird he would do that and claim he has no idea who Schefter is?!

MikeInRoch

01-07-2010, 11:45 AM

seriously, a guy with this much back ground and aspiration is not going to toss it into the garbage making crap up for the sake of hits to his town of East Aurora website

I dunno - a degree from RIT is not that big a deal. Just ask Lecter. ;)

patmoran2006

01-07-2010, 11:45 AM

Quick Question Pat:

You spoke with the man and your reports seems to indicate his personality type is more mellowed out, and not a big "I want the spotlight type", but then in his tweet he took a shot at Schefter, who he supposedly didn't know who he was? His words seem to be saying one thing (his quotes in the article) but his actions another.

Thoughts?

Honestly, I think he thought Adam Schefter wasnt an ESPN insider but a fan who was throwing way Joe's report.

He admitted to me he's a big Bills fan but not much of a football reporter guy, he wasnt even sure who Schef is.

patmoran2006

01-07-2010, 11:46 AM

..isn't it possible he fudged the time stamp? I mean, he majored in computer science.

I confirmed that didnt happen by calling a person at the East Aurora org office. Unless they're in cohoots

I mean I can evaluate someone by a 15 minute conversation, but he does not strike me as someone seeking the limelight, and he definitley had no idea what he was in store for once PFT picked that up

DraftBoy

01-07-2010, 11:51 AM

Honestly, I think he thought Adam Schefter wasnt an ESPN insider but a fan who was throwing way Joe's report.

He admitted to me he's a big Bills fan but not much of a football reporter guy, he wasnt even sure who Schef is.

Still doesn't make a lot of sense there. He takes a shot at somebody for being critical of him? That part doesn't jive all to well, but its not all that important.

If Logan is right, then good for him and we all owe him a beer, though I dont think he knows what he's gotten himself into. If he's wrong, no harm, no foul.

bob86

01-07-2010, 11:55 AM

Nice article, but I am confused.

Was Cowher in town earlier this week as JL said? That is, is JL standing by his earlier report? If so, can anyone other than JL offer proof that Cowher was here in fact as JL said? Proving this point would show JL has a lot of street cred.

Without a pattern of substantiated facts, a news report -- even one posted on the internet -- based on second hand hearsay from a single anonymous source is nothing more than a rumor.

patmoran2006

01-07-2010, 11:55 AM

Dont know.
Only thing I can say is that he stands by 100% his source, who is also a long time friends he claims.

and he went out of his to say that in EA and OP there are lots of Bills and ex bills who live there.

patmoran2006

01-07-2010, 11:56 AM

Nice article, but I am confused.

Was Cowher in town earlier this week as JL said? That is, is JL standing by his earlier report? If so, can anyone other than JL offer proof that Cowher was here in fact here as JL said? Proving this point would show JL has a lot of street cred.

Without a pattern of substantiated facts, a news report -- even one posted on the internet -- based on second hand hearsay from a single anonymous source is nothing more than a rumor.

I dont know that either.

madness

01-07-2010, 11:56 AM

Is it me or has Schefter taken on the ****ty persona of ESPN?

I use to respect the guy but all of a sudden it seems he's been rubbing elbows with Clayton a little too much.

P.S. Excellent piece, Pat. Best story I've read in a couple of days.

BAM

01-07-2010, 11:58 AM

I appreciate the person that I spoke with today. Helped me understand the world of sports talk and what to prepare for. Really appreciative

from Joe Logan's twitter page

realdealryan

01-07-2010, 11:58 AM

http://twitter.com/LoganInEA/status/7486275871

"I appreciate the person that I spoke with today. Helped me understand the world of sports talk and what to prepare for. Really appreciative"

What's the scoop on his photo?

paladin warrior

01-07-2010, 11:58 AM

Meeting with Bill Cowher on Tuesday...Well it PASS Tuesday. Hey Pat!! What happen ? and What going on ? Did Ralph hire him yet ? OH Pls Don't tell me that Ralph is cheap again.

ddaryl

01-07-2010, 11:59 AM

Meeting with Bill Cowher on Tuesday...Well it PASS Tuesday. What happen ? and What going on ? Did Ralph hire him yet. OH Pls Don't tell me that Ralph is cheap again.

patience young padiwan... things are moving along... it's painful but there is good reason to hope

Mudflap1

01-07-2010, 12:02 PM

I appreciate the person that I spoke with today. Helped me understand the world of sports talk and what to prepare for. Really appreciative

from Joe Logan's twitter page

Nice job getting the scoop Pat! Let's say Joe is credible. If possible, I think you need to get this interview leaked so that it puts more pressure and limelight on Russ and Ralph to do the right thing and pay what Cowher needs. After all, there is a salary cap (assuming the CBA is renegotiated at some point), so it's not like Cowher is asking for the moon. He's asking to be fiscally competitive with other teams. Heck, he was in Pittsburgh. It's not like Pittsburgh spends money like Washington or Dallas.

BAM

01-07-2010, 12:08 PM

Great job, Pat! I enjoyed that a lot even if Billy C doesn't end up here.

Iehoshua

01-07-2010, 12:10 PM

Meeting with Bill Cowher on Tuesday...Well it PASS Tuesday. Hey Pat!! What happen ? and What going on ? Did Ralph hire him yet ? OH Pls Don't tell me that Ralph is cheap again.
Consecrate! Turn on Righteous Fury!!

RockStar36

01-07-2010, 12:12 PM

DraftBoy

01-07-2010, 12:13 PM

This makes no sense.

He has this great source that tipped him off about the coaches being let go and now is the greatest source of information for the Bills HC search. Yet, what has he written about the Bills prior to this?

If he has this source and he choose before not to disclose it but now has, he better damn well be prepared for his phone to ring non-stop every time the Bills are making any kind of a decision. I dont think he has any idea what he just stepped himself into.

Pat you talked to him, is he ready for this?

patmoran2006

01-07-2010, 12:14 PM

RockStar36

01-07-2010, 12:15 PM

Nothing.

He says he writes about politics and community stuff.

Which is why it doesn't make sense. He has this well connected source and has only now started to post the information. This reeks of drumming up traffic for his site. I hope I'm wrong, but that is the feeling I'm getting.

pjw

01-07-2010, 12:17 PM

Has anyone invited Joe Logan to the Billszone? Might be nice to have a credible reporter on this site.
Im kidding about the credible reporter part.

SABuffalo786

01-07-2010, 12:24 PM

Which is why it doesn't make sense. He has this well connected source and has only now started to post the information. This reeks of drumming up traffic for his site. I hope I'm wrong, but that is the feeling I'm getting.

When's the last time the Bills were in the running for a major player in the NFL? The guy's a casual sports fan, I'm sure he wasn't clued in to the Spikes signing or stuff that may be big to us but doesn't really register with the non-Bills fan.

RockStar36

01-07-2010, 12:27 PM

When's the last time the Bills were in the running for a major player in the NFL? The guy's a casual sports fan, I'm sure he wasn't clued in to the Spikes signing or stuff that may be big to us but doesn't really register with the non-Bills fan.

T.O.

patmoran2006

01-07-2010, 12:29 PM

SABuffalo786

01-07-2010, 12:31 PM

T.O.

You mean the guy no one else wanted last winter?

patmoran2006

01-07-2010, 12:31 PM

If he has this source and he choose before not to disclose it but now has, he better damn well be prepared for his phone to ring non-stop every time the Bills are making any kind of a decision. I dont think he has any idea what he just stepped himself into.

Pat you talked to him, is he ready for this?

I told him if Cowher ends up signing here and what he said about them meeting and the contract being not the problem is confirmed to be true, he'd be a folk here.

He laughed.

HOnestly, he's either a great con artist, or completely unassuming of how sports media works

DesertFox24

01-07-2010, 12:31 PM

Pat,

Did you ask Joe Logan if he had asked his source if he knew if Ralph and Brandon were willing to pay for coaches and players like Cowher wants, or not.

Cowher knows that any good coach always has a good coordinator and you can hire the best coach in the world but if you have **** coordinators it is not going to work.

paladin warrior

01-07-2010, 12:31 PM

patience young padiwan... things are moving along... it's painful but there is good reason to hope Thx I am cool and patience. But it drive me crazy talk about Not get Cowher story over and over and talking other thing Brian Billrick,Ron Rivera,Frazier,Russ, ect. Look at Red SKIN PIG Hire Mike S so Quick. Ralph is slow. Hurry MotherF***er Ralph Hire Cowher before it to late.

Beebe's Kid

01-07-2010, 12:32 PM

T.O.

Cowher is way bigger than T.O.

Coaching has been a debacle since Marv, or arguably Wade (I just winced,) and while T.O. was huge news...we have made some FA signings in the past, but no big name coach since Knox.

ZAZusmc03

01-07-2010, 12:48 PM

Really appreciate the story Pat. Read it first on BBMB and its a joke how ungrateful some of these so called bills fans are. Makes me sick. Keep up the good work!

RockStar36

01-07-2010, 12:49 PM

Cowher is way bigger than T.O.

Coaching has been a debacle since Marv, or arguably Wade (I just winced,) and while T.O. was huge news...we have made some FA signings in the past, but no big name coach since Knox.

I realize he is. I was just making the point. When the Bills signed T.O. it was really big news at the time.

I guess my main point is that this guy hasn't broken any Bills story ever, but now all of a sudden he has the best inside source. And all because of a time stamp, which can be so easily changed it's not even funny. A 10 year old can do that.

Mudflap1

01-07-2010, 12:51 PM

I realize he is. I was just making the point. When the Bills signed T.O. it was really big news at the time.

I guess my main point is that this guy hasn't broken any Bills story ever, but now all of a sudden he has the best inside source. And all because of a time stamp, which can be so easily changed it's not even funny. A 10 year old can do that.

I agree it's very strange. However, the info ties with Chris Brown and Marty Schottenheimer. That, to me, is the most positive sign there is credibility.

trapezeus

01-07-2010, 12:52 PM

Nice work pat.

I'll say, if you think you are a source and are talking to reporters, you better be 100% sure you are right and aren't being set up with misinformation.

With the number of varying reports and the number of sources out there, i doubt that any of the sources are maliciously trying to spread wrong infomation. but the bills brain trust must have close tabs one who has which stories. So when they see a specific story get out, they know who the probable source is.

that being said, unless he's talking to brandon directly and that's his pal, he's 100% on. If he is talking to a little known senior exec who sometimes gets information, logan might be getting set up unintentionally.

Maybe, this is the bills way to really make it seem like they are trying when their intention isn't to try at all. But that's 1. very pessimistic and 2. would be shot down immediately by cowher's people. So it's risky for the bills to try such a stunt. Field a team with a totally incapable OL, risky stunt. Screwing around with HC candidates at the top of the list, too risky.

hydro

01-07-2010, 12:52 PM

I realize he is. I was just making the point. When the Bills signed T.O. it was really big news at the time.

I guess my main point is that this guy hasn't broken any Bills story ever, but now all of a sudden he has the best inside source. And all because of a time stamp, which can be so easily changed it's not even funny. A 10 year old can do that.

But why would a "political" guy put this information out there if it is total BS and ruin his reputation. Because like he said he doesn't want the site to be known for lies and rumors. I understand your point. But we can only go by what we read and hear.

patmoran2006

01-07-2010, 12:56 PM

Demon

01-07-2010, 12:58 PM

His source is Jim Kelly. Jimbo posted a comment on his article in November and is very close to the situation. He also lives in East Aurora.

Mudflap1

01-07-2010, 12:58 PM

This is not confirmed and he didnt admit this to me.

But I suspect from talking to him, his source/friend is a former Bills football player. He said they have been friends for a long time, which makes me doubt its a current player.

Or someone local from the area, like Russ Brandon. Or Chris Brown. Where do they live?

patmoran2006

01-07-2010, 01:11 PM

Dont know.

But to update I spoke to him again briefly and asked him about the time stamp theory.

I told him some people were skeptical that he didn’t simply change the time stamp on his report, and Logan said that’s not the case and there’d be no reason to.

“We’re not trying to be a scoop source in East Aurora. We’re not making any money off it. I have google ads. We make like a dollar per month.”

SABuffalo786

01-07-2010, 01:23 PM

This is not confirmed and he didnt admit this to me.

But I suspect from talking to him, his source/friend is a former Bills football player. He said they have been friends for a long time, which makes me doubt its a current player.

I was under the impression that this guy was in the scouting department since the source was "fearing for their job" because of Cowher's desire to insert his own staff into all football ops.

SABURZFAN

01-07-2010, 01:23 PM

i liked it better when we knew nothing about Joe Logan. thanks a lot, pat. you ruined my day. :mad:

patmoran2006

01-07-2010, 01:27 PM

i liked it better when we knew nothing about Joe Logan. thanks a lot, pat. you ruined my day. :mad:

True, and you know the funny part.

When the Bills hire Frazier tomorow, by the time its done it will be Joe Logan and Pat Moran reported lies about Cowher

RockStar36

01-07-2010, 01:30 PM

True, and you know the funny part.

When the Bills hire Frazier tomorow, by the time its done it will be Joe Logan and Pat Moran reported lies about Cowher

I fear for what some people might do to Joe Logan's site if Frazier is hired tomorrow.

SABURZFAN

01-07-2010, 01:32 PM

True, and you know the funny part.

When the Bills hire Frazier tomorow, by the time its done it will be Joe Logan and Pat Moran reported lies about Cowher

Joe gets a pass. i'm blaming you.

so Frazier will be the new HC? it figures. he'll come cheap. just how The Old Fart likes them.