What if RW hires Cowher and he fails? Then what will the fans say?

**Mudflap1** · 01-11-2010, 05:54 PM

Re: What if RW hires Cowher and he fails? Then what will the fans say?

Cowher won't fail. Can't happen. The Bills will be a playoff team again with Cowher.

**X-Era** · 01-11-2010, 05:54 PM

Re: What if RW hires Cowher and he fails? Then what will the fans say?

Originally posted by Ebenezer

Bill Cowher won a super bowl....but Bill Cowher did not coach all by himself, he didn't scout the talent, draft the talent or sign players out of free agency. Now Bill Cowher has been out of football for three years and Bills fans want him over anybody else as their next coach...but have Bills fans asks themselves these questions?

1. Who will pick the college talent? There is no evidence that Bill Cowher is a master evaluator of college talent or that he has ever single handedly put together a draft. The Bills currently have Modrak in place to do the drafting...how has that worked out in the last nine years?

2. Who will pick the pro talent? There is no evidence that Bill Cowher is a master evaluator of pro talent or that he has ever single handedly put together a plan to acquire pro talent through free agency. The Bills currently have Guy in place to do the drafting...how has that worked out in the last nine years?

3. Who will BC choose as the assistant coaches? BC won a super bowl but it took 14 years. During that time his staff took on many, many different assistant coaches. Although they were winners it took a long time for BC to assemble a staff to win it all. BC has been out of football for three years. Does he still keep lists of competent coaches? Will potential assistants want to work for/with him and where will these potential assistants come from?

All three of these are major, major hurdles that Bills fans appear to be overlooking. What if RW grants the Bills fans their biggest wish...and then BC comes here and falls flat or fails?

Discuss.

That only God himself could save the Bills?

**Ingtar33** · 01-11-2010, 05:58 PM

Re: What if RW hires Cowher and he fails? Then what will the fans say?

Originally posted by X-Era

That only God himself could save the Bills?

yep.

listen. if Cowher came in, made us respectable and took us to the playoffs half as regularly as he took the steelers he could coach this team as long as he wants to.

I'm at the point right now i just want to look forward to football on sunday.

and yes. those are really lowered expectations

**Cntrygal** · 01-11-2010, 05:59 PM

Re: What if RW hires Cowher and he fails? Then what will the fans say?

Consistent competive games would certainly be nice.

**SABURZFAN** · 01-11-2010, 06:01 PM

Re: What if RW hires Cowher and he fails? Then what will the fans say?

i'm just going to answer the questions in the title of this thread. it's a big IF hiring Cowher for one and it depends on how much meddling and how tight The Old Fart was gripping the wallet that would lead to Cowher's failure.

**mikemac2001** · 01-11-2010, 06:02 PM

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atleast ralph went out and got a big name expensive coach i wouldn't blame him for not trying just maybe the hiring

**TacklingDummy** · 01-11-2010, 06:03 PM

Re: What if RW hires Cowher and he fails? Then what will the fans say?

Cowher will fail based on what he has to work with at the QB position.

**X-Era** · 01-11-2010, 06:04 PM

Re: What if RW hires Cowher and he fails? Then what will the fans say?

Originally posted by Ingtar33

yep.

listen. if Cowher came in, made us respectable and took us to the playoffs half as regularly as he took the steelers he could coach this team as long as he wants to.

I'm at the point right now i just want to look forward to football on sunday.

and yes. those are really lowered expectations

Cant believe Im going to say this.

But it is actually possible that a coord comes in and turns us around. I'm never going to believe it will happen until I see it. But it technically is possible.

I think anyone other than a HC with a big pedigree will face:

1) A front office that's stuck in their ways and will do more of the same
2) A front office that doesn't need to listen to the new guy with no proven track record as a HC
3) Free agents that cant be convinced to come to this team by a guy who isn't a proven winner
4) An entire locker room of current players who will think the new guy will just simply be more of the same
5) A significant portion of the fan base who will be convinced its just more of the same

Luck could strike and we may get it done.

But after 4 straight trips without a win, Music City Miracle, a team that actually fired Bill Polian, etc... I'm not betting on luck anymore.

**THE END OF ALL DAYS** · 01-11-2010, 06:04 PM

Re: What if RW hires Cowher and he fails? Then what will the fans say?

Fail? BC walks on water. there is no fail in BC.

**FlyingDutchman** · 01-11-2010, 06:05 PM

Re: What if RW hires Cowher and he fails? Then what will the fans say?

I want Marty over cowher. He was consistant as hell. Sure maybe his playoff record wasnt the greatest, but his winning % is better than Cowher and hes a firey disciplinarian in which we need. We can break the super bowl curse, and he can break his playoff curse all together...that would be my dream

**X-Era** · 01-11-2010, 06:06 PM

Re: What if RW hires Cowher and he fails? Then what will the fans say?

Unlike Cowher, Marty HAS already said no.

**Zero** · 01-11-2010, 06:08 PM

Re: What if RW hires Cowher and he fails? Then what will the fans say?

Originally posted by Ebenezer

Bill Cowher won a super bowl....but Bill Cowher did not coach all by himself, he didn't scout the talent, draft the talent or sign players out of free agency. Now Bill Cowher has been out of football for three years and Bills fans want him over anybody else as their next coach...but have Bills fans asks themselves these questions?

1. Who will pick the college talent? There is no evidence that Bill Cowher is a master evaluator of college talent or that he has ever single handedly put together a draft. The Bills currently have Modrak in place to do the drafting...how has that worked out in the last nine years?

2. Who will pick the pro talent? There is no evidence that Bill Cowher is a master evaluator of pro talent or that he has ever single handedly put together a plan to acquire pro talent through free agency. The Bills currently have Guy in place to do the drafting...how has that worked out in the last nine years?

3. Who will BC choose as the assistant coaches? BC won a super bowl but it took 14 years. During that time his staff took on many, many different assistant coaches. Although they were winners it took a long time for BC to assemble a staff to win it all. BC has been out of football for three years. Does he still keep lists of competent coaches? Will potential assistants want to work for/with him and where will these potential assistants come from?

All three of these are major, major hurdles that Bills fans appear to be overlooking. What if RW grants the Bills fans their biggest wish...and then BC comes here and falls flat or fails?

Discuss.

My philosophy here is the same as my philosphy in life: I 'd rather try to do something correctly and GO DOWN IN FLAMES than elect to take the easy way out.

We have tried to hire on the cheap in the past avoiding big named candidates who perhaps required bigtime money- hasn't worked. We have built teams from the skill positions in, rather than start with the lines- hasn't worked. What's the worst that could happen by attempting the opposite?

**Ingtar33** · 01-11-2010, 06:10 PM

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I never thought i'd say this but i actually envy Jets fans.

sure, their football team is always massively overrated. they're always pissed because the team never measures up with the hype. They waste 1 round picks on draft busts at a rate faster then the Bills, and go through mediocre coaches like they're going out of style.

yet through it all every other year... or 1 out of every 3 years or so they make a run into the playoffs, mediocre schedule or teams laying down to help em in, or just the luck of the draw gets them there and for a few weeks they get football in January and the chance to look forward to the following season (of course the following year they inevitably fail to live up to expectations and miss the playoffs again, but it would be fun just for a year to see football in January).

**X-Era** · 01-11-2010, 06:12 PM

Re: What if RW hires Cowher and he fails? Then what will the fans say?

Originally posted by Ingtar33

I never thought i'd say this but i actually envy Jets fans.

sure, their football team is always massively overrated. they're always pissed because the team never measures up with the hype. They waste 1 round picks on draft busts at a rate faster then the Bills, and go through mediocre coaches like they're going out of style.

yet through it all every other year... or 1 out of every 3 years or so they make a run into the playoffs, mediocre schedule or teams laying down to help em in, or just the luck of the draw gets them there and for a few weeks they get football in January and the chance to look forward to the following season (of course the following year they inevitably fail to live up to expectations and miss the playoffs again, but it would be fun just for a year to see football in January).

Gholston is the last bust I can think of

Revis
D'Brick
Mangold
Now Sanchez

Wheres the busts?

What if RW hires Cowher and he fails? Then what will the fans say?

What if RW hires Cowher and he fails? Then what will the fans say?

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