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patmoran2006

01-14-2010, 08:22 AM

There is something that is NOT adding up to me about Brian Schottenheimer suddenly deciding he didnt want to interview for the Bills job yesterday. It doesn't add up to me, I've read and heard how much he wants to be a head coach and Ryan acknowledged on Sunday that Schotty was prolly gone after the "tournament".

Anyway, something smells to me. And any of you that know me, know if nothing else, I am at the very least a digging, nosy mofo who will work a phone, twitter, email whatever it takes to investigate into something.

I mean maybe the articles sucked, but I did track down this Joe Logan on the record last week, and Adam Schefter yesterday to open up and talk.

If there is something going on, I'm going to find out. today

patmoran2006

01-14-2010, 08:29 AM

Schefter says that Schotty is simply happy and content in NY

homeslice5484

01-14-2010, 08:30 AM

If it is Leslie Frazier or Perry Fewell I am officially even less excited for the season next year and I am not all that excited to begin with.

Beebe's Kid

01-14-2010, 08:32 AM

Agreed...the whole thing stinks. Especially the comments that were made..."with an asterisk" ???

Especially with the Nix/Shottenheimer connection. Even if he came on the interview and told them, look this probably isn't going to work, but he turns us down, and throws salt in the wound, publicly?

God speed, Pat. I am interested to see what happened. I am sure you are handwriting your letters for Joe Logan first though right?

ddaryl

01-14-2010, 08:33 AM

he also might be just focusing on the NYJ playoff run and doesn't want the distraction until it is over....

once the Jets are elminated or whatever happens he'll grant interviews, but until then he doesn't want his players distracted or the media bothering the tema with questions

ct bills fan

01-14-2010, 08:36 AM

He said he's not interviewing with the Bills now or after the playoffs. I've been saying all along I don;t want him - the 1st Bills/Jets game was the worst called game I've seen in my life

patmoran2006

01-14-2010, 08:36 AM

God speed, Pat. I am interested to see what happened. I am sure you are handwriting your letters for Joe Logan first though right?

LOL, not exactly . I did the billboard thing, got a lot of credit and took a lot of heat for it. Im done with 'fan stuff' I did my part.

And who knows, maybe he knows Frazier got the job. Maybe its nothing. Maybe he know something else. I have no idea and no inside info at this time.

I just feel like SOMETHING is going on.

SABURZFAN

01-14-2010, 08:37 AM

what's not adding up? you have a known meddling owner who holds the purse strings tighter than a 2 year old holds a teddy bear, you have the three stooges in the front office who don't know their asses from a hole in the ground, and the talent on this team is far below average. add all of that up and you have a recipe for disaster and failure.

let's face it, Buffalo is not the place where coaches want to come to hone their skills as a HC. Mularkey and Gregg Williams are probably kicking theirselves in the asses to get sucked into this black hole. how many interviews have they had since their departures? not too many, if any. once The Old Fart is removed as owner of this franchise, Buffalo will be a more promising place for coaches to be one of the 32 HC's.

patmoran2006

01-14-2010, 08:40 AM

what's not adding up? you have a known meddling owner who holds the purse strings tighter than a 2 year old holds a teddy bear, you have the three stooges in the front office who don't know their asses from a hole in the ground, and the talent on this team is far below average. add all of that up and you have a recipe for disaster and failure.

let's face it, Buffalo is not the place where not too many coaches want to come to hone their skills as a HC. Mularkey and Gregg Williams are probably kicking theirselves in the asses to get sucked into this black hole. how many interviews have they had since their departures? not too many, if any. once The Old Fart is removed as owner of this franchise, Buffalo will be a more promising place for coaches to be one of the 32 HC's.

here is what doesnt add up to me, and I don't know if its good or bad news, and have no inside info, but it just doesn't add to me on a personal level.

Seeing that Buddy Nix and Marty S. are good friends, I cant fathom why Brian Schottenheimer wouldn't at least interview for the Bills job if for no other reason than to get experience.

I've heard several accounts on how Brian wants to be a head coach.

My thinking (and this is opinion and spec, NOT fact) is that maybe his father, again good friends with Nix, told him something.

Maybe they already got they're guy in Frazier. Maybe they're still hot for Cowher. I don't know.

But again if nothing else, especially seeing how I'm SURE Marty would vouch for Nix, I dont get Brian turning the bills down yesterday.

SABURZFAN

01-14-2010, 08:42 AM

here is what doesnt add up to me, and I don't know if its good or bad news, and have no inside info, but it just doesn't add to me on a personal level.

Seeing that Buddy Nix and Marty S. are good friends, I cant fathom why Brian Schottenheimer wouldn't at least interview for the Bills job if for no other reason than to get experience.

I've heard several accounts on how Brian wants to be a head coach.

My thinking (and this is opinion and spec, NOT fact) is that maybe his father, again good friends with Nix, told him something.

Maybe they already got they're guy in Frazier. Maybe they're still hot for Cowher. I don't know.

But again if nothing else, especially seeing how I'm SURE Marty would vouch for Nix, I dont get Brian turning the bills down yesterday.

three words- The Old Fart

patmoran2006

01-14-2010, 08:46 AM

three words- The Old Fart

Again, he'd be interviewing with Nix, not Wilson. And Nix and his pop are good friends.

I never claimed to have inside info on this; it just doesn't seem to add up for me. Why not get the experience on an interview?

Iehoshua

01-14-2010, 08:49 AM

I've read and heard how much he wants to be a head coach and Ryan acknowledged on Sunday that Schotty was prolly gone after the "tournament".
"No one touches the prima donna until the tournament. Is that understood?"

Iehoshua

01-14-2010, 08:51 AM

Schefter says that Schotty is simply happy and content in NY
Let Brian stay there. Good for him!

I want a guy who is not content, that's motivated to do more.

SABURZFAN

01-14-2010, 08:51 AM

Again, he'd be interviewing with Nix, not Wilson. And Nix and his pop are good friends.

Why not get the experience on an interview?

yes, he'd be interviewing with Nix but The Old Fart has the final say.

why waste your time doing something when you don't want the job? maybe he doesn't want to deal with a meddling owner in his first gig. JMO.

ddaryl

01-14-2010, 08:52 AM

I agree... you would think that with Marty and Buddy being friends that Brian would at least entertain the interview at the seasons end.

gordong

01-14-2010, 09:01 AM

I agree what Pat here. Ok IF brain is truly happy with the jets that is fine; but to turn down the chance publicly is another matter. Marty and Buddy are supposed to be friends if nothing else I would think the Marty would encourage brain to interview with Buddy. Something fishy is going on.

SABURZFAN

01-14-2010, 09:04 AM

maybe word has finally gotten around the NFL that The Old Fart is unbearable to work for.

homeslice5484

01-14-2010, 09:04 AM

Thurman bought into this "big splash" too, and now acts like that was never said on twitter.

bob86

01-14-2010, 09:06 AM

It seems to me there are only four possibilities:
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1) He truly is happy in New York and wants to stay there for now and will wait a year or so to get a head coaching gig.<o:p></o:p>
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2) He wants to be a head coach but not in Buffalo, so if he interviews and they offer him the job he is in the awkward situation of turning his dad’s friend down.<o:p></o:p>
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3) He has been told that someone else will almost certainly get the job so why waste time during a playoff week doing something that will not amount to much.<o:p></o:p>
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4) After the Jets are out of the playoffs, he will be persuaded to in fact interview. By waiting he avoids the wrath of the New York media who will claim that the Jets lost because he was not totally focused on his Jets job. <o:p></o:p>

SABURZFAN

01-14-2010, 09:07 AM

Thurman bought into this "big splash" too, and now acts like that was never said on twitter.

go figure.... :rolleyes:

homeslice5484

01-14-2010, 09:09 AM

go figure.... :rolleyes:

looks like Ralph got to him too and he now works for the PR department. Way to go Russ, you have corrupted one of Buffalo Bills finest also.

patmoran2006

01-14-2010, 09:10 AM

Hey man.

You're probably all right.

Its my OPINION there is a little somethign more to the story, thats all. I've said 10 times now, I have no inside info or anything. There's just a few things that I feel personally add up.

But that's just for me.

bills&sabresmvf

01-14-2010, 09:12 AM

This is ridiculous, how many people hold out hope. It's pretty bad when assistant coaches turn down an interview. And we get suckered in to wasting $ during a recession to put a dumb ass billboard? Why didn't you raise the $ and give it all to a charity?

They don't have their "guy" and that's why coaches aren't interviewing. No one wants to even approach them. Look at the General Manager pick, they didn't even look outside, easy way out. You bring in a head coach, he sees that and knows that's how the organization is run. Last year, instead of addressing needs they went out and signed a wide receiver to sell tickets...the easy way out. This is the reality and if this keeps up, you don't think we seem more viable to los angeles?

RockStar36

01-14-2010, 09:13 AM

Bringing Frazier in is probably the worst move possible in terms of the fans. For me personally, this is like bringing Jauron back.

So they will probably lost tickets. Maybe. Probably not.

But if they do face that possibility, I see them just going out and grabbing someone, like a McNabb, that will get the fans all fired up again and duped into buying into more losing.

SABURZFAN

01-14-2010, 09:18 AM

Hey man.

You're probably all right.

Its my OPINION there is a little somethign more to the story, thats all. I've said 10 times now, I have no inside info or anything. There's just a few things that I feel personally add up.

But that's just for me.

let's take a trip back down memory lane. let's go back to two weeks before the 2009 season started. Jason Peters.... remember him? nuf said. remember Langston Walker? nuf said. why would anybody want to come here when the upper echelon is constantly pulling the rug out from under you with suckhead plays like that? granted, i was no Dick Jauron fan but he had no choice but to fail going into the 2009 season. in fact, ANYBODY who was HC would have failed. nobody wants to deal with piss poor management and a penny pinching owner.

Novacane

01-14-2010, 09:22 AM

. once The Old Fart is removed as owner of this franchise, Buffalo will be a more promising place for coaches to be one of the 32 HC's.

Amen! There is only 1 person to blame for the Bills turning into the joke they have become.

trapezeus

01-14-2010, 09:23 AM

I think it adds up logically.

B. Schot has
1. the best running OL in NYJ
2. The best defense in football
3. $2MM in salary to be an OC

Leaving for buffalo gives him
1. no OL to run with
2. potentially down to one RB for next year.
3. a incredibly weak defense that needs more drafted studs than they currently have
4. the distinct possibility of coaching the bills, failing because that's what peopel do, and then being blackballed from the HC job ever again.

It's a huge risk. buddy is his dad's friend. not his friend. i'm sure he'd watch buddy's dog if asked, but putting his future on the line for a **** run organization? that's a lot to ask from a friend.

SABURZFAN

01-14-2010, 09:24 AM

Amen! There is only 1 person to blame for the Bills turning into the joke they have become.

i've been saying this for years on these boards and caught a lot of hell. this past season has opened a lot of eyes.

sillenb61

01-14-2010, 09:40 AM

let's take a trip back down memory lane. let's go back to two weeks before the 2009 season started. Jason Peters.... remember him? nuf said. remember Langston Walker? nuf said. why would anybody want to come here when the upper echelon is constantly pulling the rug out from under you with suckhead plays like that? granted, i was no Dick Jauron fan but he had no choice but to fail going into the 2009 season. in fact, ANYBODY who was HC would have failed. nobody wants to deal with piss poor management and a penny pinching owner.

I think people call him cheap wayto much they do spend on players they paid a lot of money to walker and dockery but they sucked and were average at best that was john guy and partially levys fault but does not change the fact they spent a lot of money on them.

sillenb61

01-14-2010, 09:42 AM

i've been saying this for years on these boards and caught a lot of hell. this past season has opened a lot of eyes.

There is one person responsible for this team being in buffalo for as long as they have!

sillenb61

01-14-2010, 09:44 AM

i've been saying this for years on these boards and caught a lot of hell. this past season has opened a lot of eyes.

Question for you saburzfan were you old enough to enjoy the late eighties to mid nineties team?

SABURZFAN

01-14-2010, 09:46 AM

I think people call him cheap wayto much they do spend on players they paid a lot of money to walker and dockery but they sucked and were average at best that was john guy and partially levys fault but does not change the fact they spent a lot of money on them.

see points #5 and #6 in this thread and get back to me about The Old Fart's cheapness. :tap:

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=186144

SABURZFAN

01-14-2010, 09:47 AM

Question for you saburzfan were you old enough to enjoy the late eighties to mid nineties team?

:roflmao:

i was around when the Bills went 0-20 against the Dolphins in the 1970's. were you?

Ed

01-14-2010, 09:48 AM

Maybe Brian S. (and possibly others) just don't want to coach in the AFC East. Maybe he doesn't want to have to face Rex Ryan and his former team twice a year. He also knows first hand how tough it is to compete with teams lead by Parcells and Bellichick. Miami and New England are always going to be tough and competetive with those guys around. So maybe coaches just feel it's too tough of a division right now and they think they would be destined to fail. And once you fail as a HC, it's harder to get that opportunity again in the near future. So if you're a "hot" coordinator, why not wait for a situation that you feel is more ideal for you? Why throw yourself into a situation you're not comfortable with just because it's the only opening available?

I don't know, just a thought...

SABURZFAN

01-14-2010, 09:48 AM

There is one person responsible for this team being in buffalo for as long as they have!

and one person responsible for more losing seasons as well.

sillenb61

01-14-2010, 09:50 AM

see points #5 and #6 in this thread and get back to me about The Old Fart's cheapness. :tap:

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=186144

I see your point but if this team is going to spend money all the way to the cap and more with bonuses then they need to raise ticket proces we are close to the cheapest in the league if not the cheapest so to spend more money and keep to viable in this area tey need to raise prices.

sillenb61

01-14-2010, 09:53 AM

:roflmao:

i was around when the Bills went 0-20 against the Dolphins in the 1970's. were you?

No i wasnt and i was 9 when they went to there first super bowl so i didnt get to enjoy the super bowl years as much as a lot of other people did either, i do remember those years but wish i was older at the time so could have went to games although i did watch all the games because everyone in my family is bills fans.

SABURZFAN

01-14-2010, 09:55 AM

I see your point but if this team is going to spend money all the way to the cap and more with bonuses then they need to raise ticket proces we are close to the cheapest in the league if not the cheapest so to spend more money and keep to viable in this area tey need to raise prices.

we're going into an uncapped season next year so i expect the ticket prices to go up. also, i didn't expect the Bills to use the entire cap but at least be close. show the Bills fans that you're serious about fielding a team that is competitive. those numbers only show me that The Old Fart is only worried about lining his pockets and sticking it in the ass of ALL Bills fans. don't get me started on games in Toronto. when The Old Fart pockets over $70 million for 8 games up there, that's ANOTHER slap in the face to ALL Bills fans.

SABURZFAN

01-14-2010, 09:59 AM

No i wasnt and i was 9 when they went to there first super bowl so i didnt get to enjoy the super bowl years as much as a lot of other people did either, i do remember those years but wish i was older at the time so could have went to games although i did watch all the games because everyone in my family is bills fans.

i'm sure a few other old timers can attest to the fact that the Bills were not winning much from the 70's - up to the Super Bowl years. these past 10 years have been like living in the 70's and 80's again.

LABillsFan

01-14-2010, 10:09 AM

Maybe, just maybe people in the NFL dislike Wilson to the extent that they will force RW to sink or swim for the final time. I believe the NFL knows what's going on here as far as the fans are concerned and RW's ways. If Nix can't get BS or others to interview, it's because Nix is not wanting them to. He can't say it of course but he can make it unattractive and get the coaches to say it, resulting in fewer canidates to hire, forcing Ralph to ultimately pony up. Do I believe this? No, but as long as we're throwing darts.

patmoran2006

01-14-2010, 10:19 AM

I am not saying Brian Schottenheimer SHOULD'VE JUMPED at the chance to coach the Bills.

I'm saying he should've interviewed if for nothing else to pick up the experience of the process.

gordong

01-14-2010, 10:21 AM

i'm sure a few other old timers can attest to the fact that the Bills were not winning much from the 70's - up to the Super Bowl years. these past 10 years have been like living in the 70's and 80's again.

70's were the worse in the history of the bills.... we could not beat the dolphins at all, NOT once. 80's were better.

sillenb61

01-14-2010, 10:25 AM

i'm sure a few other old timers can attest to the fact that the Bills were not winning much from the 70's - up to the Super Bowl years. these past 10 years have been like living in the 70's and 80's again.

Yeah my dad said it was pretty rough through tose years and he says the same things you say so i see your point, im like everyone else i want a winning coach here do not want another coordinator and am very sick of losing and will be very upset if they name frazier HC.

justasportsfan

01-14-2010, 10:30 AM

THanks for the good news PAt. He's at the bottom of my list anyways.

Iehoshua

01-14-2010, 10:35 AM

70's were the worse in the history of the bills.... we could not beat the dolphins at all, NOT once. 80's were better. From http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/

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</td> </tr><tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td align="left">2008</td> <td align="left">NFL (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2008/)</td> <td align="left">Buffalo Bills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2008.htm)</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
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</td> </tr><tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td align="left">2006</td> <td align="left">NFL (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2006/)</td> <td align="left">Buffalo Bills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2006.htm)</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
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</td> </tr><tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td align="left">2004</td> <td align="left">NFL (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2004/)</td> <td align="left">Buffalo Bills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2004.htm)</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
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</td> </tr><tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td align="left">2003</td> <td align="left">NFL (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2003/)</td> <td align="left">Buffalo Bills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2003.htm)</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">
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</td> </tr><tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td align="left">2002</td> <td align="left">NFL (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2002/)</td> <td align="left">Buffalo Bills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2002.htm)</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">
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</td> </tr><tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td align="left">2001</td> <td align="left">NFL (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2001/)</td> <td align="left">Buffalo Bills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2001.htm)</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
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</td> </tr></tbody></table><table class="sortable stats_table small_text"><tbody><tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""><td align="left">2000</td> <td align="left">NFL (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2000/)</td> <td align="left">Buffalo Bills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2000.htm)</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">0</td></tr></tbody></table>
The * indicates a playoff appearance.

I see no "*" in the 2000s.

I see only 1 winning record in the 2000s.

The 2000s were the worst in the history of the Bills.

plundar

01-14-2010, 10:36 AM

It doesn't matter who the next coach is unless Ralph give control over this team will always be a bottom dweller.

gordong

01-14-2010, 10:39 AM

From http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/

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</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td align="left">1978</td> <td align="left">NFL (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1978/)</td> <td align="left">Buffalo Bills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/1978.htm)</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">11</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">
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</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td align="left">1977</td> <td align="left">NFL (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1977/)</td> <td align="left">Buffalo Bills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/1977.htm)</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">11</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
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</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td align="left">1976</td> <td align="left">NFL (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1976/)</td> <td align="left">Buffalo Bills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/1976.htm)</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">
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</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td align="left">1975</td> <td align="left">NFL (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1975/)</td> <td align="left">Buffalo Bills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/1975.htm)</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">
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</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td align="left">1974</td> <td align="left">NFL (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1974/)</td> <td align="left">Buffalo Bills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/1974.htm)*</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">
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</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td align="left">1973</td> <td align="left">NFL (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1973/)</td> <td align="left">Buffalo Bills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/1973.htm)</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">
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</td> <td align="left">
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</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td align="left">1972</td> <td align="left">NFL (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1972/)</td> <td align="left">Buffalo Bills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/1972.htm)</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">
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</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td align="left">1971</td> <td align="left">NFL (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1971/)</td> <td align="left">Buffalo Bills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/1971.htm)</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">
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</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td align="left">1970</td> <td align="left">NFL (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1970/)</td> <td align="left">Buffalo Bills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/1970.htm)</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">
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<table class="sortable stats_table small_text"><tbody><tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""><td align="left">2009</td> <td align="left">NFL (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2009/)</td> <td align="left">Buffalo Bills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2009.htm)</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">
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The * indicates a playoff appearance.

I see no "*" in the 2000s.

I see only 1 winning record in the 2000s.

The 2000s were the worst in the history of the Bills.

I disagree, 2000's have been ugly...but those 1,2,3 win seasons in the 70's were much worse then you can imagine... NOT EVEN CLOSE. The only thing positive back then was OJ.... 1973 imagine having a guy that ran for 2000, yads but you only won 9 games, think about that for a minute.

Iehoshua

01-14-2010, 10:40 AM

I disagree, 2000's have been ugly...but those 1,2,3 win seasons in the 70's were much worse then you can imagine... NOT EVEN CLOSE.
Can't speak on it as I didn't exist at the time, but to me, had the Bills made the playoffs just ONCE this decade, I'd have a way better feeling about it.

Iehoshua

01-14-2010, 10:44 AM

This is what I grew up seeing really:

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Talk about a decade of dominance.

patmoran2006

01-14-2010, 11:14 AM

so Fewell takes the Giants job today, less than 24 hours after Brian declines to interview and nobody knows if or when Grimm is actually going to interview.

Anyone still not believe me that something is fishy and that something is going on?

Either the Billls have already unofficially selected Leslie Frazier m(as T-Long suggested) and its spreading aorund league circles, or something is going on with cowher, which would conflict every "major" report I've read or been told.

I'm telling you guys.. I know how it works. usually something leaks from OBD, and right now, NOTHING IS.

Demon

01-14-2010, 11:19 AM

Schefter says that Schotty is simply happy and content in NY

We didn't need Schefter telling us that when.... Brian Schottenhiemer said it himself. lol

patmoran2006

01-14-2010, 11:19 AM

Well whomever said it, doesnt matter.

You get my point.

Dr. Lecter

01-14-2010, 11:22 AM

so Fewell takes the Giants job today, less than 24 hours after Brian declines to interview and nobody knows if or when Grimm is actually going to interview.

Anyone still not believe me that something is fishy and that something is going on?

Either the Billls have already unofficially selected Leslie Frazier m(as T-Long suggested) and its spreading aorund league circles, or something is going on with cowher, which would conflict every "major" report I've read or been told.

I'm telling you guys.. I know how it works. usually something leaks from OBD, and right now, NOTHING IS.

If it is that hush-hush and everybody is being very quiet, it gives me a little hope that the .01% chance of it being Cowher could happen.

Although that would mean others know and you would think it would leak from Schotty or Fewell.

patmoran2006

01-14-2010, 11:25 AM

If it is that hush-hush and everybody is being very quiet, it gives me a little hope that the .01% chance of it being Cowher could happen.

Although that would mean others know and you would think it would leak from Schotty or Fewell.

Right and the man of the hour right now I bet is Fewell.

I have no contact info for him, but I hope someone tracks him down.

SABURZFAN

01-14-2010, 12:30 PM

From http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/

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The * indicates a playoff appearance.

I see no "*" in the 2000s.

I see only 1 winning record in the 2000s.

The 2000s were the worst in the history of the Bills.

you had to bring up the past records, didn't you? :ill: :hang:

malo

01-14-2010, 12:53 PM

There is something that is NOT adding up to me about Brian Schottenheimer suddenly deciding he didnt want to interview for the Bills job yesterday. It doesn't add up to me, I've read and heard how much he wants to be a head coach and Ryan acknowledged on Sunday that Schotty was prolly gone after the "tournament".

Anyway, something smells to me. And any of you that know me, know if nothing else, I am at the very least a digging, nosy mofo who will work a phone, twitter, email whatever it takes to investigate into something.

I mean maybe the articles sucked, but I did track down this Joe Logan on the record last week, and Adam Schefter yesterday to open up and talk.

If there is something going on, I'm going to find out. today
What are going to do to find out? DM shefter on twitter?

Ickybaluky

01-14-2010, 01:08 PM

imagine having a guy that ran for 2000, yads but you only won 9 games, think about that for a minute.

Barry Sanders (9 - 7) and Chris Johnson (8 - 8) say hello.

patmoran2006

01-14-2010, 01:28 PM

What are going to do to find out? DM shefter on twitter?

(Shaking my head)

<SHAKING head my>

baseballdad

01-14-2010, 01:41 PM

Pat,

Thurman tweeted this about 2 hrs ago...any chance you've heard what he means by this.

RT @PigsknLvngLady: Good News Thursday...Good News Thursday....Good News Thursday

Damn...talk about grasping at straws

patmoran2006

01-14-2010, 01:43 PM

Pat,

Thurman tweeted this about 2 hrs ago...any chance you've heard what he means by this.

RT @PigsknLvngLady: Good News Thursday...Good News Thursday....Good News Thursday

Damn...talk about grasping at straws

I don't think that anything to do with football (his RT)

ddaryl

01-14-2010, 01:46 PM

I see your point but if this team is going to spend money all the way to the cap and more with bonuses then they need to raise ticket proces we are close to the cheapest in the league if not the cheapest so to spend more money and keep to viable in this area tey need to raise prices.

Yes they do, and I've supported that idea for years. Ticket prices should be raised $25 per ticket IMO.

Novacane

01-14-2010, 04:02 PM

did you find anything out today bout this Pat?

SABURZFAN

01-14-2010, 07:19 PM

Yes they do, and I've supported that idea for years. Ticket prices should be raised $25 per ticket IMO.

25 X 70000 = 1,750,000

1,750,000 X 7 = 12,250,000

sure.... why not have The Old Fart pocket another $12.25 million? he REALLY needs it. that should fill up his "tin cup."

Cntrygal

01-14-2010, 08:14 PM

without reading this whole thread.... was Pat's mission successful?

Slim

01-14-2010, 08:15 PM

No.

Cntrygal

01-14-2010, 08:16 PM

dang