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  • DesertFox24
    Registered User
    • Jul 2005
    • 2129

    Headcoach

    Does it really matter who the head coach is?

    In all seriousness you can hire the best guy in the world but if you do not have good coaches around you it does not matter how good you are.

    As a head coach, he will not be able to coach one aspect of the game, he has to coach all aspects of the game. He also will have to guys around him that he can trust (Bill Belichek press conference was perfect example of a good HC and OC and DC relationship).

    That being said the biggest decision a head coach makes is who is coordinators are.

    I have heard that Frazier will bring Al Saunders as our O coordinator and I honestly like that. As for the Defense I am not sure but someone from the vikes or eagles if I had to guess.

    In conclusion I want the best coaching staff not the best HC, because all that is going do is much of the same.
  • Nighthawk
    Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
    • Jul 2002
    • 15437

    #2
    Re: Headcoach

    It does when no other changes were made in the organization...

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    • elltrain22
      Registered User
      • Sep 2003
      • 4281

      #3
      Re: Headcoach

      Originally posted by DesertFox24
      Does it really matter who the head coach is?

      In all seriousness you can hire the best guy in the world but if you do not have good coaches around you it does not matter how good you are.

      As a head coach, he will not be able to coach one aspect of the game, he has to coach all aspects of the game. He also will have to guys around him that he can trust (Bill Belichek press conference was perfect example of a good HC and OC and DC relationship).

      That being said the biggest decision a head coach makes is who is coordinators are.

      I have heard that Frazier will bring Al Saunders as our O coordinator and I honestly like that. As for the Defense I am not sure but someone from the vikes or eagles if I had to guess.

      In conclusion I want the best coaching staff not the best HC, because all that is going do is much of the same.
      Are you kidding, it makes all the difference in the world. Ask and answer this question to yourself, and be honest with yourself. Hypothetically speaking, if Cowher & his staff drafted, coached, and put this 09-10 team together, would they have been 6-10. If you said it wouldn't have mattered you're lying to yourself. They wouldn't have drafted a project w/ their 1st pick, they wouldn't have traded Peters, wouldn't have let Dock & Walker walk, and surely would've done what it took to field a competitive team. Dick Jauron and any 2nd rate coach, players dont buy into, and don't follow or respect. Case in point, Marshawn Lynch who's dumb butt can't stay outta trouble. Kawika Mitchell tweeting his head off about in house stuff. This would not be tolerated by coaches who uphold players to their accountability.

      Please, coaching is everything.
      If you walk with Jesus today, you don't have anything to worry about tomorrow...

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      • ddaryl
        Everything I post is sexual inuendo
        • Jan 2005
        • 10714

        #4
        Re: Headcoach

        huge difference. The HC get all the final say in gameplans etc... The HC is the key organizer who makes sure all the team is on the same page, and the HC is the one who sets the tone for training camps and practices.

        plus there are probably many other good reasons on why the HC does matter

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        • DesertFox24
          Registered User
          • Jul 2005
          • 2129

          #5
          Re: Headcoach

          Buddy Nix is going to have final say in the drafts unless Cowher comes here, so cross off the draft picks argument.

          You mention assistants as another argument. What I said is what if a guy we dont want (Sparano, Smith, Tomlin) guys that were assistants and not well known come in, but hire very good and eager assistants. That would be better than getting a coach with a resume with an average coaching staff. Just because a guy has a resume does not make him the best for the job. Hell look at Jimmy Johnson he did not do well in Miami with a hall of fame QB, and he had some of his super bowl winning coaches with him.

          My point is this, before I call any HC hire we make good or bad I want to see the assistants. I will tell you one thing I was not happy with Jauron's assistants when they were named. If frazier comes in with Al Saunders though it will be the first legit OCoord we have had in quit some time. That being said we better not run the stupid cover 2, I want an attacking defense.

          Also to be honest I really do not think the alignment matters (34 vs 43) as long as you attack, stop the run, and get pressure on the QB you will win games. Everyone cares about sacks but the fact that we led the league in picks means we were getting good pressure on the qb and I will take that every year over big sack totals.

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          • DesertFox24
            Registered User
            • Jul 2005
            • 2129

            #6
            Re: Headcoach

            I know the jets run a 34 but we could be just as aggressive with a 43, the eagles and giants have done it.

            Point being is every good leader has good men around him, a great leader with poor men around him will fail, that is fact not fiction folks. Just ask Ford, GM, and all the banks they had very smart qualified people at the top but those guys had poor people around them that gave them bad information.

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            • THE END OF ALL DAYS
              The Allen Era has begun.... no looking back now, come hell or high water!
              • Feb 2005
              • 4525

              #7
              Re: Headcoach

              belicheck....
              Dicky J

              You make the call
              In my day we did not have self-esteem... we had self-respect, and no more of it then we earned.

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              • DesertFox24
                Registered User
                • Jul 2005
                • 2129

                #8
                Re: Headcoach

                Originally posted by keithtr
                belicheck....
                Dicky J

                You make the call
                What is your point Belicheck actually had some decent teams in Cleveland. Dick Jauron had one good year because he got lucky.

                Belicheck had great assistants around him, 4 guys have left to become head coaches, and he has had other assistants on his staff that have been excellent Dom Capers.

                So thank you for making my point, I appreciate the help.

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                • THE END OF ALL DAYS
                  The Allen Era has begun.... no looking back now, come hell or high water!
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 4525

                  #9
                  Re: Headcoach

                  Originally posted by DesertFox24
                  What is your point Belicheck actually had some decent teams in Cleveland. Dick Jauron had one good year because he got lucky.

                  Belicheck had great assistants around him, 4 guys have left to become head coaches, and he has had other assistants on his staff that have been excellent Dom Capers.

                  So thank you for making my point, I appreciate the help.
                  is it intrinsic in every poster that when someone does not agree with them that they be a dick in the reply?

                  Im just asking.

                  if half of you people spoke to others in real life the way you speak to people on this forum youd spend most of your life with a black eye
                  In my day we did not have self-esteem... we had self-respect, and no more of it then we earned.

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                  • TacklingDummy
                    Unreachable Douche
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 71724

                    #10
                    Re: Headcoach

                    This team needs a franchise QB more than it needs a former Super Bowl winning coach.

                    Talented players make or break the coach.

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                    • DesertFox24
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 2129

                      #11
                      Re: Headcoach

                      Originally posted by keithtr
                      is it intrinsic in every poster that when someone does not agree with them that they be a dick in the reply?

                      Im just asking.

                      if half of you people spoke to others in real life the way you speak to people on this forum youd spend most of your life with a black eye
                      Lol, you are correct and I apologize.

                      However, I am not sure what you were trying to say.

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                      • DesertFox24
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 2129

                        #12
                        Re: Headcoach

                        Originally posted by TacklingDummy
                        This team needs a franchise QB more than it needs a former Super Bowl winning coach.

                        Talented players make or break the coach.
                        Agree players make plays, not the other way around.

                        However, good coaches will make players better and put players in situations to make plays.

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                        • THE END OF ALL DAYS
                          The Allen Era has begun.... no looking back now, come hell or high water!
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 4525

                          #13
                          Re: Headcoach

                          Originally posted by DesertFox24
                          Lol, you are correct and I apologize.

                          However, I am not sure what you were trying to say.
                          I would be referring to the overall body of work.

                          one lucky season in chicago is all DJ has to hang his hat on.

                          Belicheat has an impressive body of work.

                          Thank you for your apology. classy move :)
                          In my day we did not have self-esteem... we had self-respect, and no more of it then we earned.

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                          • justasportsfan
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 71579

                            #14
                            Re: Headcoach

                            It does matter when the HC who has the final say holds his assistants back.

                            In Dicks case, it's safe to say he tld his assists. to call plays designed to control the ball instead of plays that are designed to score. He also decides which players are better suited for the play not to lose philosophy .
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                            • mikemac2001
                              is the creepy cross dresser staring at you in the corner
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 4574

                              #15
                              Re: Headcoach

                              We should get bill walsh to be our next HC

                              have it like weekend at bernie's

                              instead be sunday's with walsh
                              Last edited by mikemac2001; 01-15-2010, 11:56 AM.

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