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GeneralCode
01-14-2010, 01:29 PM
Bills looking for an offensive specialist as next coach (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/14/bills-looking-for-an-offensive-specialist-as-next-coach/)

Posted by Mike Florio on January 14, 2010 2:23 PM ET

The Buffalo Bills are taking their time in rounding up candidates for the team's vacant head-coaching job. And despite indications that Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier is the clubhouse leader, a league source tells us that the Bills currently intend to hire a coach who specializes in the offensive side of the ball.

It's prompting speculation that the Bills already have in mind a guy whose current team is still playing. The Bill are planning to interview Cardinals offensive line coach Russ Grimm, and they were rebuffed in their efforts to pursue Jets offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer.

Another possibility is Cowboys offensive coordinator Jason Garrett. However, the Bills have not yet attempted to interview him.

The news also suggests that the pursuit of Bill Cowher has concluded. (Then again, until the Bills or Cowher make it clear that Cowher is out of the running, we're inclined to think the door might be still open.)

Either way, it's a bad sign for former Ravens coach Brian Billick. He has the offensive background, and he's immediately available. The fact that he hasn't already been hired suggests that he probably won't be.

Meanwhile, time is of the essence. Assistant coaches need to be hired, and plans need to be made for free agency and the draft. The Senior Bowl practice sessions, for example, get rolling in less than two weeks. So unless the Bills are waiting to hire someone who is still coaching, they are wasting extremely valuable time.

patmoran2006
01-14-2010, 01:30 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/14/bills-looking-for-an-offensive-specialist-as-next-coach/


The Buffalo Bills are taking their time in rounding up candidates for the team's vacant head-coaching job. And despite indications that Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier is the clubhouse leader, a league source tells us that the Bills currently intend to hire a coach who specializes in the offensive side of the ball.

It's prompting speculation that the Bills already have in mind a guy whose current team is still playing. The Bill are planning to interview Cardinals offensive line coach Russ Grimm, and they were rebuffed in their efforts to pursue Jets offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer.

Another possibility is Cowboys offensive coordinator Jason Garrett. However, the Bills have not yet attempted to interview him.

The news also suggests that the pursuit of Bill Cowher has concluded. (Then again, until the Bills or Cowher make it clear that Cowher is out of the running, we're inclined to think the door might be still open.)


Wow..

Florio don't mess around when he cites league sources either, trust me.

patmoran2006
01-14-2010, 01:31 PM
Will have to merge this.

(And its not old news, its actually new and at least mildly surprising)

shelby
01-14-2010, 01:33 PM
Merged

ddaryl
01-14-2010, 01:35 PM
Either way, it's a bad sign for former Ravens coach Brian Billick. He has the offensive background, and he's immediately available. The fact that he hasn't already been hired suggests that he probably won't be.

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His offenses weren't that good in Baltimore... his D's however were very good


I think I would be more intersted in Grimm then Billick, so this is not upsetting to me besides the fact they refuse to interview him...

DBrown77
01-14-2010, 01:36 PM
So what does this do to T-Longs Source?

I think if your source isnt the Bills front office, then your source doesnt know S***

So many people's "sources" contradict each other

(this is a general comment and not directed at you T-Long)

Forward_Lateral
01-14-2010, 01:39 PM
If this is true, Frazier won't be hired.

Demon
01-14-2010, 01:39 PM
Just because they want something doesn't mean their going to get it. Fact is, there is not many offensive minds left. Garnett in Dallas but i would think he would reject us as he's i think the highest paid O.C. in the league.

The list of people is very slim. Unless of course, they get desperate and call Mike Martz. Although, if they havn't already, i doubt they still would.

wmoz11
01-14-2010, 01:40 PM
Is there a reason that we never hear Mike Heimerdinger's name come up? I'm sure there must be, I'm just not aware of what would disqualify him from such a position.

patmoran2006
01-14-2010, 01:42 PM
As far as I know the BIlls have shown no interest in Billick or Martz.

They're definitely interested in Grimm, that much I know. .and I've heard reports about Garrett, which I know nothing about.

Another name to not write off, and I know you guys will hate this, is Cam Cameron

zone
01-14-2010, 01:44 PM
The news also suggests that the pursuit of Bill Cowher has concluded. (Then again, until the Bills or Cowher make it clear that Cowher is out of the running, we're inclined to think the door might be still open.)
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Again, anyone with a brain should put this assumption out there. Neither party has said cut and dry no, so it isn't no yet.

Demon
01-14-2010, 01:44 PM
As far as I know the BIlls have shown no interest in Billick or Martz.

They're definitely interested in Grimm, that much I know. .and I've heard reports about Garrett, which I know nothing about.

Another name to not write off, and I know you guys will hate this, is Cam Cameron

1-15 Cam Cameron. lol

When Nix was hired, i actually posted i bet Cameron becomes the HC. The 1-15 Fish were not his fault, he got a bad deal there. That whole team was a mess. He will get another chance somewhere. In Buffalo, it would be a very tough sell.

patmoran2006
01-14-2010, 01:51 PM
John Warwow (AP) quote

"owner Ralph Wilson stated he has no preference regarding off or def-minded coach. Is there a bigger source than Ralph? "

WeAreArthurMoates
01-14-2010, 01:56 PM
Well there it is, straight from the horses mouth. At least Les will bring in an ubber experienced coordinator in Saunders though I worry bout the o line coach.

Demon
01-14-2010, 01:58 PM
If they hire Frazier, they will need to pump a lot of money towards Frazier to build his staff. He will need to go out and find the right guys for O-Line, QB and O.C. jobs. Our offense is pathetic and needs a lot of work. Frazier can bring in his own peeps to run the defense because he can over see it, but the offensive side of the ball needs to be people who been there before. Like a Chris Palmer for example, or a Al Saunders, although i am not high on him.

Frazier or Grimm, or whoever else they hire, could be the next Belichicks but if they don't hire the right personnel for offense, then they will be massive failures in Buffalo.

Prov401
01-14-2010, 02:01 PM
I think Garrett is going to get an interview, especially if the Girls upset the Vikes this weekend.

deviantwolf
01-14-2010, 02:04 PM
John Warwow (AP) quote

"owner Ralph Wilson stated he has no preference regarding off or def-minded coach. Is there a bigger source than Ralph? "

Anyone else find this highly disturbing? I mean I dunno I think if you are serious about making a difference you should have some sort of preference on how you want your team designed.

Sure in theory you want all things equal on the field but in reality one usually takes a more dominant role on your team and it's often influenced by the head coach and his back ground...

God this team drives me insane.

Demon
01-14-2010, 02:07 PM
Anyone else find this highly disturbing? I mean I dunno I think if you are serious about making a difference you should have some sort of preference on how you want your team designed.

Sure in theory you want all things equal on the field but in reality one usually takes a more dominant role on your team and it's often influenced by the head coach and his back ground...

God this team drives me insane.

Not really. They did have a preference. It was Mike Shanahan and Bill Cowher. Also possibily Jon Gruden. But all of those rejected us. Going to coordinators, is already down on our wish list. And even then, we're getting rejected.

NorthCarBills
01-14-2010, 02:12 PM
I think Garrett is going to get an interview, especially if the Girls upset the Vikes this weekend.

I didnt think about that...kind of pitting Frazier vs. Garrett this weekend. Never thought of it that way but even more fun to watch now.

Mathja
01-14-2010, 02:14 PM
W T F ????????

Does anyone know what the %$#& is going on in B-LO? Everyone has a completely and utterly different theory on what is going on. Stupifying!!!

patmoran2006
01-14-2010, 02:17 PM
W T F ????????

Does anyone know what the %$#& is going on in B-LO? Everyone has a completely and utterly different theory on what is going on. Stupifying!!!

Exactly.. Craziness

patmoran2006
01-14-2010, 02:18 PM
Not really. They did have a preference. It was Mike Shanahan and Bill Cowher. Also possibily Jon Gruden. But all of those rejected us. Going to coordinators, is already down on our wish list. And even then, we're getting rejected.

It was actually Gruden they wanted first and foremost.

WeAreArthurMoates
01-14-2010, 02:20 PM
Anyone else find this highly disturbing? I mean I dunno I think if you are serious about making a difference you should have some sort of preference on how you want your team designed.

Sure in theory you want all things equal on the field but in reality one usually takes a more dominant role on your team and it's often influenced by the head coach and his back ground...

God this team drives me insane.

No not all. I want them to find the best coach period. Miami did this and went Cam Cameron, look how that turned out. Same goes with St.Louis when they hired Linehan, they wanted an offensive mind. You find the best guy for the job.

better days
01-14-2010, 02:23 PM
Just because they want something doesn't mean their going to get it. Fact is, there is not many offensive minds left. Garnett in Dallas but i would think he would reject us as he's i think the highest paid O.C. in the league.

The list of people is very slim. Unless of course, they get desperate and call Mike Martz. Although, if they havn't already, i doubt they still would.

Here is a name already put out there. A guy with both HC & offensive experience...................Marc Trestman current HC of Montreal. Last time Ralph hired a HC from Montreal, it turned out pretty well.

Demon
01-14-2010, 02:24 PM
Here is a name already put out there. A guy with both HC & offensive experience...................Marc Trestman current HC of Montreal. Last time Ralph hired a HC from Montreal, it turned out pretty well.
People say Frazier is a Jauron clone.... well.... Jauron is a "madman" compared to Trestman. No thanks.

justasportsfan
01-14-2010, 02:26 PM
aren't tired of offensive coaches? Greghead, Mularkey and Dick were all offensive.

ddaryl
01-14-2010, 02:26 PM
Here is a name already put out there. A guy with both HC & offensive experience...................Marc Trestman current HC of Montreal. Last time Ralph hired a HC from Montreal, it turned out pretty well.


he signed a big extension with Montreal just recently

justasportsfan
01-14-2010, 02:27 PM
People say Frazier is a Jauron clone.... well.... Jauron is a "madman" compared to Trestman. No thanks.

Trestman produces great results.

superbills
01-14-2010, 02:46 PM
Jim Harbaugh anyone? If we're throwing names like Frazier and Grimm around, Harbaugh should at lest be in the deiscussion. Can't hurt to ask the guy to interview.

mark1126
01-14-2010, 07:15 PM
That offensive specialist theory makes no sense. Grimm is an OL coach/running backs coach, hardly an offensive specialist. Cardinals don't even have an OC, only a passing game coordinator. Garrett aint leaving Denver he will become HC when Wade either leaves or gets the boot. The Chargers have Clarence Shelmon, hardly a household name. The Packers have Joe Philbin, whoever he is.

Cam is a possibility I guess..wow..wouldnt that suck?

Nighthawk
01-14-2010, 08:28 PM
That offensive specialist theory makes no sense. Grimm is an OL coach/running backs coach, hardly an offensive specialist. Cardinals don't even have an OC, only a passing game coordinator. Garrett aint leaving Denver he will become HC when Wade either leaves or gets the boot. The Chargers have Clarence Shelmon, hardly a household name. The Packers have Joe Philbin, whoever he is.

Cam is a possibility I guess..wow..wouldnt that suck?

Wow, when did Garrett leave Dallas to coach in Denver?

HHURRICANE
01-14-2010, 08:57 PM
We needed an defensive minded coach so we hired Williams, than we needed an offensive minded coach so we hired Mularkey, than we needed a defensive minded coach so we brought in Jauron, and now we need an offensive minded coach.

How about we try hiring a winner instead who knows both sides of the ball.

PECKERWOOD
01-14-2010, 09:13 PM
Schottenheimer Jr.

better days
01-14-2010, 09:21 PM
he signed a big extension with Montreal just recently

It would be surprising if he didn't have an out clause for an NFL job.

TigerJ
01-14-2010, 10:58 PM
Jim Harbaugh anyone? If we're throwing names like Frazier and Grimm around, Harbaugh should at lest be in the deiscussion. Can't hurt to ask the guy to interview.I have thought that Harbaugh was pretty intriguing if rather inexperienced. If the Bills are inclined to roll the dice (which they tend not to be normally) Harbaugh is certainly a possibliity to roll with.