Pros and Cons I: Russ Grimm

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  • Ebenezer
    Give me a minute...
    • Jul 2002
    • 73868

    Pros and Cons I: Russ Grimm

    Let's start to review the possible Bills HC candidates. For this I am going to assume that Shottzy, Sr., Shottzy, Jr., Billick and Cowher are all off the list. Let's go through each candidate and tell why each of us either supports or is against this candidate.

    I. Russ Grimm




    For all the education and practice each of us undergoes, the achievment of mastery is ultimately the outcome of a personal quest for understanding.
  • BertSquirtgum
    Registered User
    • May 2009
    • 13379

    #2
    Re: Pros and Cons I: Russ Grimm

    i just like the name. lets hire him. i assume that's how OBD works.
    Last edited by BertSquirtgum; 01-15-2010, 12:16 PM.

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    • Mitchell55
      only another 1000 mocks due by tomorrow!
      • Feb 2008
      • 5214

      #3
      Re: Pros and Cons I: Russ Grimm

      Good- AZ, Seems tough, OL

      Bad- Never a NFL HC, never a coordinator

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      • psubills62
        Legendary Zoner
        • Sep 2008
        • 11295

        #4
        Re: Pros and Cons I: Russ Grimm

        I support Grimm. He's improved the offenses and OL's wherever he's been.

        Having no experience at coordinator may not be a bad thing. After all, 7 of 16 "elite" head coaches (deemed by an NYU study) were never coordinators, including Marv Levy. He was also heavily in consideration for the Pittsburgh HC job, along with Whisenhunt. We've all seen what those two have done in Arizona to help that team.
        Last edited by psubills62; 01-15-2010, 12:22 PM.
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        - Nicholas Cummings

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        • Ebenezer
          Give me a minute...
          • Jul 2002
          • 73868

          #5
          Re: Pros and Cons I: Russ Grimm

          Originally posted by Mitchell55
          Good- AZ, Seems tough, OL

          Bad- Never a NFL HC, never a coordinator
          I am not asking for a list of strengths and weaknesses, I think we all got that..

          Tell me why you support or are against each candidate. Take a stand.




          For all the education and practice each of us undergoes, the achievment of mastery is ultimately the outcome of a personal quest for understanding.

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          • Mitchell55
            only another 1000 mocks due by tomorrow!
            • Feb 2008
            • 5214

            #6
            Re: Pros and Cons I: Russ Grimm

            Originally posted by Ebenezer
            I am not asking for a list of strengths and weaknesses, I think we all got that..

            Tell me why you support or are against each candidate. Take a stand.

            You said pros and cons. If you said that about Trent id say

            Pros

            Accurate, occationally mobile, quick release

            Cons

            Scared, weak arm, Jelly for a head

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            • Beebe's Kid
              Registered User
              • Nov 2009
              • 3134

              #7
              Re: Pros and Cons I: Russ Grimm

              Wow..this started off bad, and is deteriorating from there....

              I would support Grimm, and the reason is I am of the impression that he is a blue collar kind of guy. His resume is impressive, in the fact that he has improved the situation on every team he has coached. He is also considered to more of a disciplinarian versus "player's" coach.

              There is some talent on this team (read Lynch, Marshawn) that is struggling mightily due to lack of a a strong direction. I think that Grimm could provide that.

              One bad bit of news that I saw this moring on Two Bills Drive, was that a poster with a connection to Grimm said that he was interested in the hassle of dealing with a power struggle and questioning the future of the team when Ralph passes. His is, apparently concerned enough to be considering turning down the interview.

              Link to the post on TBD

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              • Don't Panic
                All-Pro Zoner
                • Dec 2005
                • 4227

                #8
                Re: Pros and Cons I: Russ Grimm

                Pros - Been around success for a very looooong time. Knows what it takes to win. Would fix our O Line on day one (or try to), which is essential. Has an offensive pedigree, which is necessary.

                Cons - No HC experience (or coordinator experience?). Who does he bring in to address the D?

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                • The King
                  Without me it's just Awe so
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 42380

                  #9
                  Re: Pros and Cons I: Russ Grimm

                  Look at the 180 he's been part of in AZ....
                  I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
                  "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
                  You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
                  It was all
                  true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
                  He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
                  mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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                  • RockStar36
                    Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 24761

                    #10
                    Re: Pros and Cons I: Russ Grimm

                    Pro - Was a member of a team that valued strong offensive line play, strong running game, and won multiple Super Bowls because of the fact.

                    Was a part of the staff that helped win Pittsburgh their first Super Bowl this past decade.

                    Went to Arizona with Wisenhunt, took a team that has never been any good, and immediately turned them into a team that almost won the Super Bowl.

                    Consistently surrounded by or a major part of a winning culture.

                    Blue collared guy who would appreciate Buffalo and coach to their strengths.

                    D & S Sports



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                    • BillsWin
                      man amongst boys
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 6025

                      #11
                      Re: Pros and Cons I: Russ Grimm

                      Offensive background, good football past, winning follows him wherever he goes, learned under Cowher, learned under Gibbs (in his prime), knows how to build an offensive line, knows what it takes to win in this league, has four super bowl rings, so you know that he knows how to get there and win in the playoffs, favors the run but has learned under a pass happy offense in Arizona too.

                      Just a gut feeling really. I like the guy. I think he is a winner, and will continue to win wherever he ends up. I hope that is in Buffalo.
                      I am The Batman.

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                      • elltrain22
                        Registered User
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 4281

                        #12
                        Re: Pros and Cons I: Russ Grimm

                        I'm not going to pry into his Pros, but I'll chose to point out his cons, or mainly his con. That main con is I don't think he's interested in this job at all. I think, if he does interview, its only a formality, and has no intention of taking this job. I very much hope I'm wrong though
                        If you walk with Jesus today, you don't have anything to worry about tomorrow...

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                        • Thurmal
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 2412

                          #13
                          Re: Pros and Cons I: Russ Grimm

                          Con -- Pittsburgh passed him up for a coaching spot for Tomlin, who was an unknown at the time
                          "Miami played pretty damn good today and still got their ass kicked."

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