Were you any less excited when they hired

[Bufftp]

Were you any less excited when they hired Marv Levy? A lot of fans were Marv Who? Less than stellar resume, including tome in the cfl and a year the USFL with 5 years at KC and on;y one winning season, and 9-7 at that.

We really don't know how it will turn out.

[Billz_fan]

I was good when Marv got hired. I had no issues with him. Of course he had also been an NFL head coach less than 10 years before that :laughter:

[SABURZFAN]

i hope the doubters are proven wrong.

[THATHURMANATOR]

I was too young to even remember the Levy Hiring.

[Ebenezer]

I pretty much remember feeling the same way about ML. It ushered in an era where upper management did everything it could to win. I don't think the Bills FO has that dedication at this time. I hope I am proven wrong. I also will not knock Gailey for that...now, his game day decisions might be a different thing.

[Philagape]

It's a remarkably similar line of coaches ... two spectacular failures followed by a retread (who had a far worse resume than Gailey).

[Ebenezer]

It's a remarkably similar line of coaches ... two spectacular failures followed by a retread (who had a far worse resume than Gailey).

actually, MLs resume was not that bad...it was pretty par with Gailey.

[Billz_fan]

i hope the doubters are proven wrong.

Someone has hacked Sabz account !

[superbills]

The key difference between the two will be in how the GM does at stocking the team with quality players. Marv Levy benefited from the "Polian Machine" in an un-capped era. If Buddy Nix can be HALF the GM Polin was/is, we could be OK.

[Philagape]

actually, MLs resume was not that bad...it was pretty par with Gailey.

Except for the difference between winning and losing.

[OpIv37]

Were you any less excited when they hired Marv Levy? A lot of fans were Marv Who? Less than stellar resume, including tome in the cfl and a year the USFL with 5 years at KC and on;y one winning season, and 9-7 at that.

We really don't know how it will turn out.
And the trend of using the exception to prove the rule continues! Tell me, why exactly did you choose Levy as your example and not Jauron, mularkey or Williams?

[BigZ]

Except for the difference between winning and losing.

I felt just as bad when Levy was brought in but Gailey has a much better resume and winning percentage.

[Ebenezer]

And the trend of using the exception to prove the rule continues! Tell me, why exactly did you choose Levy as your example and not Jauron, mularkey or Williams?


MM and GW were first time coaches...why compare? DJ was a loser four out of five of his seasons as HC. ML and CG are pretty much on par. But then again, you always do navigate to the negative.

[Philagape]

The Zone would have bombed the stadium over Levy.

[Bufftp]

And the trend of using the exception to prove the rule continues! Tell me, why exactly did you choose Levy as your example and not Jauron, mularkey or Williams?
To annoy you.
To me of the last coaches his most similar situation and resume.

[Philagape]

And the trend of using the exception to prove the rule continues! Tell me, why exactly did you choose Levy as your example and not Jauron, mularkey or Williams?

Mularkey and williams weren't retreads.

[Night Train]

I can still remember watching vid's of the Kay Stevenson & Hank Bullough pressers. I remember thinking " We have no hope next season " . This was a bland hire but not hopeless.

I'll give this a guy a chance to assemble a staff and see how the draft plays out before playing taps.

[Beebe's Kid]

Someone has hacked Sabz account !

Hilarious!! I like it though...optimism is a good fit on Sabz!!

[Dicknoze69]

The key difference between the two will be in how the GM does at stocking the team with quality players. Marv Levy benefited from the "Polian Machine" in an un-capped era. If Buddy Nix can be HALF the GM Polin was/is, we could be OK.

This. The Bills were absolutely loaded during the Levy-era, although we didn't know it at the time. A training dummy could have coached them to the playoffs. If Nix/Gailey can find us a QB, they will be successful.

I've maintained all along that our decade of futility is more because of our draft mishaps than coaching failures.

[Canadian'eh!]

I was excited about Donahoe.
I was ok with Gregg Williams.
I was wait and see on Mularkey
I disliked brining Levy back.
I HATED the Jauron hire.
I was appalled by the Nix promotion.
I am disgusted and outraged by the Gailey hire.

[Ebenezer]

This. The Bills were absolutely loaded during the Levy-era, although we didn't know it at the time. A training dummy could have coached them to the playoffs.

Incorrect. ML held that place together for 10 years...not everybody would have been able to do that. He wasn't a great tactician and he didn't get in players faces but many, many others would have failed handling all those egos. How many coaches would have held a team together after "wide right" and gotten them back to three more super bowls?

[Dicknoze69]

Incorrect. ML held that place together for 10 years...not everybody would have been able to do that. He wasn't a great tactician and he didn't get in players faces but many, many others would have failed handling all those egos. How many coaches would have held a team together after "wide right" and gotten them back to three more super bowls?

I didn't say he wasn't a good coach and he certainly handled the egos well enough, but there's no denying the Bills weren't loaded. He absolutely helped them get to the Super Bowl year after year and rebound from wide right, but I firmly believe a ton of NFL coaches could have taken that team to the playoffs.

[Ebenezer]

I didn't say he wasn't a good coach and he certainly handled the egos well enough, but there's no denying the Bills weren't loaded. He absolutely helped them get to the Super Bowl year after year and rebound from wide right, but I firmly believe a ton of NFL coaches could have taken that team to the playoffs.

as would have Dallas...as would have a number of teams...that argument can always be made. Is Dungy any less a coach if Indi wins it this year?

[Dicknoze69]

as would have Dallas...as would have a number of teams...that argument can always be made. Is Dungy any less a coach if Indi wins it this year?

That's my point. The Bills success then was a direct result of Polian's brilliance and less a result of Levy's coaching. Obviously both played a part however.