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I highly doubt Schobel will stay if we switch and we would be forced to trade Stroud. Stroud is 300 lbs but a small framed 300 lbs so he cant be a NT, hes to old and slow for DE, so I think wed be forced to trade him for maybe a 4th
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if we can trade stroud and schobel for 3rd or 4th rd picks pull the trigger and get what u can or them now... we are rebuilding and need as many picks as possible... -
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he's one of a better players... you're going to give him up for a 4th round pick? smart move.Comment
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Gotta agree with you on the Schobel thing, but Stroud could probably handle being an end in the 3-4...However I still believe with the current staff we have... There will be little change to the defensive scheme. But major "tweeks" could improve the current 4-3 we have in place.Last edited by Dying_-2-_Live; 01-19-2010, 10:35 PM."If you ain't first... You're last"
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Originally posted by DrGraves
We got him for a 3rd and 5th. 2 years later he got injured again and had a very bad year where we were last in run defense. So yea, a 4th. Hes getting oldComment
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I always thought Stroud would be a good 3-4 end. What the Bills would desperately need would be the big NT in the middle.Originally posted by Dying_-2-_LiveComment
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Originally posted by Dying_-2-_Live
I think hes to slow and same with Schobel, im not sure how well he would react to playing 4-3 to now 3-4 after all these yearsComment
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The absolutely ideal NT is coming out in this years draft... Terrence CodyOriginally posted by Scumbag College"If you ain't first... You're last"
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But i have a feeling he could manhandle some of the smallish OT in the league with pure strength... not speedOriginally posted by Mitchell55"If you ain't first... You're last"
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Originally posted by Dying_-2-_Live
True
Stroud, Hampton, Williams
Sounds scary ha ha. Your actually warming me up to the ideaComment
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hmmm... Hampton would be a nice pick up. I still say find a way to trade back into the first and get Cody aswell. Have them rotate, because i have concerns about his weight and how he'd hold up playing at the NFL level. PLaying in 90 degree weather (away games obviously) is hard for Roscoe Parrish. Imagine Cody!Originally posted by Mitchell55
Last edited by Dying_-2-_Live; 01-19-2010, 10:45 PM."If you ain't first... You're last"
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Both Stroud, and Schobel are old, and washed up, we'll be lucky to get a 4th. for either of them. Now stop dreaming, and move on.
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Stroud could play 3-4 DE for a year while new pieces are put into place. But I say stay with the 4-3.....works for the Vikings and ColtsComment
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The hiring of Chan Gailey probably didn't do much to tilt the odds in favor of Schobel returning next year. I bet he ultimately waits to see who the DC is going to be. If it comes down to it, faced with learning an entirely new system is most likely going to send him right off into retirement.Still searching for that offensive rhythm.Comment
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The Bills could switch to a 3-4 if they wanted to and I think it wouldn't take as much work as some fear.
The first thing they would need to do is go out and get.........and I can't believe I am saying this because he is so dirty........VINCE WILFORK. I know he won't come cheap, but he is just heading into the prime of his career at 28 or so. Yes, the Cheatriots* may re-sign him, but that is not a guarantee by any means. The Cheatriots* have a history of letting guys like this go at this point. So, this would be the first step.
With this signing, I think we would actually have the starting pieces in place on the D-Line. Stroud would make a very good 3-4 DE with his size and athletic ability. He would be fine on 1 side. Williams, while not the tallest guy out there, still has good size and could play the other DE I believe. They can always draft another DE in the 2nd or 3rd rounds that might work as well. But I think Stroud and Williams could play the DEs in a 3-4.
Then, the no-brainer move. Maybin moves to one of the OLB positions in the 3-4. From there, the first pick in the draft could go a bunch of different ways depending on who is available. While the chances are maybe slim, if we could pick up either McClain or Spikes with the first pick, I think we will be OK in terms of our starting LBS. We would have Poz and McClain/Spikes in the middle with Maybin and Mitchell on the outside. So, the starting positions would be all set at this point. Depth would be a problem so they would have to do some work in FA and the draft, but in a 3-4 system, our starters would look pretty good, I think.
STROUD WILFORK WILLIAMS
MAYBIN POZ MCCLAIN MITCHELL
Add in our great secondary (I believe our secondary is one of the best in the league already) and I think you starting 3-4 defense would be pretty good.
So, while it would take a little work, i think it is possible to put a 3-4 defense on the field that is pretty good.....at least on paper.Comment
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