if u had to choose between these players..

[NOT THE DUDE...]

assuming all are on the board and the bills will go to a 34 def

who would u take?

clausen qb
bradford qb
graham de/olb
bulaga ot
davis ot
campbell ot
morgan de
mcclain ilb

[Jaybird]

Mcclain

[elltrain22]

1. Bruce Campbell
2. Rolando McClain
3. Brian Baluga
4. Anthony Davis
5. Derrick Morgan

[elltrain22]

I'm happy as all heck if its one of my top 2 guys. Campbell or McClain would be a very nice early Christmas present.

[Dying_-2-_Live]

you take McClain or clausen or bradford. POSSIBLY, Campbell

[TigerJ]

I'd eliminate Clausen, Graham and Davis right off the bat. Assuming his shoulder checks out, I prefer Bradford over Clausen. Graham is too light to be a DE is a 3-4, and I've already got a 3-4 rush linebacker in Aaron Maybin. I think Bulaga and Campbell are more natural left tackles than Davis. Chances are I'd go with Morgan first, then Bulaga or Campbell, then Bradford. I think Buffalo's ILBs in a 3-4 are Poz and Mitchell

[BillsWin]

1. Bradford- The one guy I think will be a franchise QB in this draft. There is potential from a few others, but this kid has the right skills, the right attitude and the right smarts to get it done.

2. Campbell- franchise LT.

3. McClain- very low bust risk. Great player.

4. Baluga- Could be a franchise LT

5. Davis- see Baluga

That would be my top five.

[PECKERWOOD]

Clausen.

[bigbub2352]

clausen

[NOT THE DUDE...]

The way i look at it is qb is the most important position... no debate there. i think bufffalo can still fix the oline with picks in the 2nd -5th rds... buffalo has 2 6s and 2 7s so they can draft depth players for 34 there... my first choice is clausen and then go lt in rd 2. if clausen or bradford are not there, then u take bulaga and then qb in rd 2...

but qb is the most important spot... so logic would tell u to take the qb when u have the chance.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

if clausen is there this would be my draft, or something very similar position wise...

1 JIMMY CLAUSEN QB
2 JASON FOX OT
3 SEAN LEE ILB
4 SAM YOUNG OT
4 ERIC OLSEN G/C
5 THADEUS GIBSON OLB
5 CAMERON <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place w:st="on">SHEFFIELD</st1:place> OLB
6 LORENZO <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">WASHINGTON</st1:place></st1:State> DE
6 DOUG <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">WORTHINGTON</st1:place></st1:City> DE
6 <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">BRANDON</st1:place></st1:City> DEADERICK DE
7 <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">ROY</st1:place></st1:City> UPCHURCH RB
7 JACOB HICKMAN C

[PECKERWOOD]

if clausen is there this would be my draft, or something very similar position wise...

1 JIMMY CLAUSEN QB
2 JASON FOX OT
3 SEAN LEE ILB
4 SAM YOUNG OT
4 ERIC OLSEN G/C
5 THADEUS GIBSON OLB
5 CAMERON <st1:place w:st="on">SHEFFIELD</st1:place> OLB
6 LORENZO <st1:state w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">WASHINGTON</st1:place></st1:state> DE
6 DOUG <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">WORTHINGTON</st1:place></st1:city> DE
6 <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">BRANDON</st1:place></st1:city> DEADERICK DE
7 <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">ROY</st1:place></st1:city> UPCHURCH RB
7 JACOB HICKMAN C

I'd trade up into the 1st for a left tackle if Clausen was there at 9, if I stood still, something to the likes of my signature would do.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

i wouldnt mind trading back up to get on of those top LTs as long as we dont give up 2011 1st. because that pick could be really really high.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

especially with a rookie qb starting....

[bills4ver]

Clausen then Mclain

[BILLSROCK1212]

mcclain is the safest bet, baluga is 2

[TrEd FTW]

McClain easily. I view him as a sure thing. The Bills need a sure thing. They can't screw up another top pick.

[Ferrygoat]

McClain

[Buddo]

I think the only QB worth considering @ 9 is Bradford, and that is only if he has proven his fitness.
On the original premise that we are going to a 3-4 D, I think it would have to be McClain. Then look to pick up an OT with the 2nd round pick.
It's all very well saying that QB is the biggest need, but that isn't strictly true. A good QB is the biggest need, and I remain to be convinced that there is one available in this draft, although if there is one, it will be Bradford imho.
TBH, even if we stay a 4-3 D, if McClain is there, he's probably who we should be picking, as we desperately need an improvement at LB.
One thing is for certain though, you won't find me complaining if we take an OT first, be it Baluga or Campbell.

[jamze132]

If McClain is there, you take him. Period.

You then move Poz outside.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

so lets say mcclain turns into another patrick willis. we will still suck. u go qb man. if not qb in rd 1 than rd 2. the combination i see for buffalo could be bulaga then tebow. or clausen then fox.....

there are 3 top qbs in this class rated

1 bradford
2 clausen
3 tebow...

they are all top qbs and imo will all be good. we have to get one of them

ps tebow looks like a literal clone of jim kelly. i wouldnt even mind buffalo taking him at 9.

[Mitchell55]

I like Clausens attitude

[kernowboy]

Insanity not to take a LT

A MLB or ILB can be drafted lower in someone like Brandon Spikes or Sean Lee.

There is no point in drafting a QB if he spends the entire season on his back or in IR because he has no protection. I also prefer the 2011 class/potential class of Locker, Gabbert, Mallett, Devlin and Ponder.

1. Bruce Campbell
2. Anthony Davis
3. Bryan Bulaga

My draft would be assuming trading Lynch for a 4th:

R1. Bruce Campbell LT, Maryland
Potential elite player. Our current QBs will be much better with top protection
R2. Rob Gronkowski TE, Arizona
Assuming he is medically fit, we gain a top TE who will help replace Owens. From Amherst, the boy is a redzone machine
R3. Sean Lee ILB, Penn St
Would have been a 1st rounder if not for injury
R4. (Lynch) Naaman Roosevelt WR, Buffalo
The best WR the national press don't really report on. Could quickly be a starter
R4. Linval Joseph NT (6ft6, 332lbs), East Carolina
Huge and athletic NT/DE possibility
R5. Corey Peters DE, Kentucky
Had a great senior season
R6. James Starks RB, Buffalo
Missed his senior season but the production is there and has very good hands
R6. (Peters) Mike Kafka QB (6ft3, 216lbs), Northwestern
A major sleeper. Allows the wildcat as an option. Has a big arm. Considered a running QB until senior season when he showed he really could throw the ball, short and deep
R7. (Simpson) John Fletcher (6ft6, 272lbs) Wyoming
A legitimate LE in a 4-3 who has been able to sack sufficiently but is big enough to move inside occasionally on passing downs.
R7. Cory Jackson FB, Maryland
Will allow Fred-x to be a 1,400yds runner

[X-Era]

assuming all are on the board and the bills will go to a 34 def

who would u take?

clausen qb
bradford qb
graham de/olb
bulaga ot
davis ot
campbell ot
morgan de
mcclain ilb

Bradford

[Yasgur's Farm]

McClain
Morgan
Campbell

[kernowboy]

so lets say mcclain turns into another patrick willis. we will still suck. u go qb man. if not qb in rd 1 than rd 2. the combination i see for buffalo could be bulaga then tebow. or clausen then fox.....

there are 3 top qbs in this class rated

1 bradford
2 clausen
3 tebow...

they are all top qbs and imo will all be good. we have to get one of them

ps tebow looks like a literal clone of jim kelly. i wouldnt even mind buffalo taking him at 9.

Tebow at 9 would be the worst pick in the franchise's history. He is nowhere close to being a NFL QB and will need at least 3 years work before being close to starting.

His mechanics are awful and may not be curable especially his long wind up.

His touch on passes is abysmal.

He will have to change his entire attitude to the game as he will get badly beaten up when he tries to run.

He might be a college winner but that does not translate to the pro game.

We pick Tebow and the Bills will quickly move to LA as we can guarantee another 3 years of losing.

[Canadian'eh!]

Clausen SUCKS.

McClain or one oft he 2 OTs

[Night Train]

I keep mentioning McClain... but the hardest postion to fill is LT and we have a CRYING need there, with plenty of solid choices available at #9.

I think Meredith can be our RT, since he should me a lot in his brief time before he was injured. Wood,Hangartner,Levitre in the middle looks solid. A LT completes a line that could play together for a while.

I watch college football heavily and this QB class is WAAAAAY overrated. Name recognition over actual pro talent. I'd much rather go with a Vet.

After LT, this draft should be heavy towards the Front 7 on D. We've been obsessed with skill players for far too long and it's led to NOWHERE.

Work on the trenches and watch us suddenly get better. You can't argue with that. IT'S SCIENCE !

:shout: :shout: :shout: :shout:

[TedMock]

If all available I go Bradford. There are fewer decent free agent QB's than any other position. Tebow is nowhere near ready to be a day one signal caller. Bad mechanics, weak arm, etc. Clauson doesn't scan the field, locks on one receiver and takes forever to throw the ball. Bradford will struggle early, but is most ready & has the highest probability of success. After that, I love McClain & Morgan. Both will start early. I like all the tackles mentioned. Campbell is the most gifted, but he's also very inconsistent and takes plays off. Trust me. I watch every one of his home games live. I still like him though. I just really hope we make a serious run at a solid FA tackle like McNeil & that will open the draft up for us. I still like taking a QB flier on a LeFevour or Hiller, for example, in the 4th or so.

[kernowboy]

I think in 2011 if we have a Jake Locker, Ryan Mallett, Christian Ponder, Pat Devlin or Blaine Gabbert protected by Campbell or Bulaga or Davis then we have hopes of the playoffs and division title

If we draft a QB without a LT, we can expected a losing 2011 season due to the QB being shell shocked

[ddaryl]

I need to see some reports that come out along with the combine before I decide who we are going to pick.

I serioulsy doubt Clausen will be there at #9 and Bradford has to many injuries to take a chance on.


McClain would be my no brainer choice because he seems ot fit the immediate impact player description we must have at #9

Bulaga at T is my 2nd choice, but I'm still waiting to see how the top LT's look after the combine

[Mad Bomber]

Bulaga or Campbell.

We NEED a LT more than anything right now.

[NorthCarBills]

assuming all are on the board and the bills will go to a 34 def

who would u take?

clausen qb
bradford qb
graham de/olb
bulaga ot
davis ot
campbell ot
morgan de
mcclain ilb

Any of these OTs first unless the pick is McClain.

[SABURZFAN]

i'd be getting a T.


keep building that OL for the next QB.

[kernowboy]

I'm not so sold on McClain as I think we have other needs and I like the look of Alex Wujciak from the ILB factory of Maryland who at 6ft3, 255lbs could be an absolute beast when he comes out next year.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

why in the hell would anyone pass on a franchise qb for a franchise LT...??? the bills can get lt help in the 2nd round or even trade up back into the first...YOU DONT PASS ON FRANCHISE QBS LIKE BRADFORD OR CLAUSEN....

[NOT THE DUDE...]

By that logic the lions would have taken jason smith with their first pick, which would have been the dumbest thing ever..

[NOT THE DUDE...]

1 clausen/bradford qb
2 jason fox ot
3 sean lee ilb
4 sam young ot

[kernowboy]

why in the hell would anyone pass on a franchise qb for a franchise LT...??? the bills can get lt help in the 2nd round or even trade up back into the first...YOU DONT PASS ON FRANCHISE QBS LIKE BRADFORD OR CLAUSEN....

Because what is the point of a franchise QB on IR?

If you look at a lot of franchise QBs taken, like Manning, the year or two before, that team have drafted an elite LT.

Look at the Lions with Stafford ... yes he is great but playing behind Backus, he really will have a shortened career until Backus recovers form or the Lions draft an LT

[NOT THE DUDE...]

which is why u take a lt with ur second pick...

[Mahdi]

assuming all are on the board and the bills will go to a 34 def

who would u take?

clausen qb
bradford qb
graham de/olb
bulaga ot
davis ot
campbell ot
morgan de
mcclain ilb
Morgan.

[kernowboy]

1 clausen/bradford qb
2 jason fox ot
3 sean lee ilb
4 sam young ot

Jason Fox has huge concerns. He's just had knee surgery and missed his final senior game with an irregular heartbeat. He is a significant medical risk He might slide well into Day3 or out of the draft.

Sam Young had an horrific senior season being seriously exposed by USC who got terribly bullied by Stamford. He's stock has fallen so far he might be this year's Alex Boone and not even get drafted.

[kernowboy]

which is why u take a lt with ur second pick...

How about passing on two QBs who are a) either injury prone or b) over rated because of the position and draft a top LT, rather than taking a hugely risky chance on a 2nd round LT who might not be starting on Day1

[NOT THE DUDE...]

the point is we can get a quality lt in the 2nd round. u dont pass on franchise qbs...

[NOT THE DUDE...]

bradford and clausen are not overated...

[NOT THE DUDE...]

every player is a risk, whats ur point... its bradford/clausen or bust....

[kernowboy]

In 2007, Clausen had an extremely poor freshman season. In 2008, Clausen was more successful but still was throwing almost as many INTS as TDs. He's had basically one year of elite production

Bradford has a large number of questions such as not playing in a pro-style offence, arm strength and durability. He is far from being a sure thing.

Consider the top OTs available and the very promising 2011 QB class, the franchise would be better off securing the OL, and having a current or veteran QB play. Whoever is behind center will be automatically better with his blindside guarded.

Any rookie coming in in 2011 will be able to start immediately behind an experienced LT who has gotten past his rookie problems.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

who the heck will be our qb this year then?

[kernowboy]

who the heck will be our qb this year then?

We have three under contract. All will be better having to not run for their lives. It could be much easier to develop Brohm, repair Edwards confidence, get the most from Fitzpatrick as Galley did with Tomzak by giving them time with top pass protection.

Or we could quite easily pick up a free agent. In 2011, it could be Locker or Mallett or Gabbert or Devlin or Ponder all of whom have elite protection from Day1.

Who is guarding your draft picks blindside? - Bell the turnstyle? Fox, who is a colossal medical risk with knee and heart issues?

A Qb cannot throw the football when flat on his back

[NOT THE DUDE...]

all 3 qbs on our roster blow big time.

there are literally no fa qbs available that are any good. again there are very good lts that can be had in rd 2 . if u have a chance to take a franchise qb then u do it...

[kernowboy]

all 3 qbs on our roster blow big time.

there are literally no fa qbs available that are any good. again there are very good lts that can be had in rd 2 . if u have a chance to take a franchise qb then u do it...

Which LTs in R2?

Fox with his medical risks?
Guys who really can only play RT like Galloway?
Players like Capers who are so raw they may not be able to play in their rookie season?

[NOT THE DUDE...]

if buffalo does go lt in rd 1... what
do u think of this mock?


1 <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">BRYAN</st1:place></st1:City> BULAGA OT
2 <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">BRANDON</st1:place></st1:City> GRAHAM DE
3 JEVAN SNEAD QB
4 CIRON BLACK OT
5 PAT ANGERER ILB
6 RILEY COOPER WR
6 RAHIM ALEM DE
6 PERRY RILEY OLB
7 <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">AUSTIN</st1:place></st1:City> SPITLER ILB
7 JACOB HICKMAN C

[NOT THE DUDE...]

i like dan lefevour at qb as well. i believe we would either go with edwards 1 more year to see if he can be good. or bring in pennington to play for 2 years while we groom are rookie qb... or possibly draft one in 011

[Mahdi]

if buffalo does go lt in rd 1... what
do u think of this mock?


1 <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">BRYAN</st1:place></st1:City> BULAGA OT
2 <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">BRANDON</st1:place></st1:City> GRAHAM DE
3 JEVAN SNEAD QB
4 CIRON BLACK OT
5 PAT ANGERER ILB
6 RILEY COOPER WR
6 RAHIM ALEM DE
6 PERRY RILEY OLB
7 <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">AUSTIN</st1:place></st1:City> SPITLER ILB
7 JACOB HICKMAN C
If did this I would be very very impressed. Bulaga and Graham would be fantastic.

[kernowboy]

if buffalo does go lt in rd 1... what
do u think of this mock?


1 <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">BRYAN</st1:place></st1:City> BULAGA OT
2 <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">BRANDON</st1:place></st1:City> GRAHAM DE
3 JEVAN SNEAD QB
4 CIRON BLACK OT
5 PAT ANGERER ILB
6 RILEY COOPER WR
6 RAHIM ALEM DE
6 PERRY RILEY OLB
7 <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">AUSTIN</st1:place></st1:City> SPITLER ILB
7 JACOB HICKMAN C

I don't think we need two OTs as we have Butler, Meredith and Bell available. We have more than enough depth on the OL. Snead has the physical skills but lacks the mental qualities needed. What we need is more DL help. Where does the 3rd 6-rounder come from? I would trade Lynch for a 4th this year and a 4th next year and do this.

1 BRUCE CAMPBELL LT 6ft7, 310lbs
a potential pro-bowler and Day1 starter
2 ROB GRONKOWSKI TE 6ft6, 270lbs
Another target and Nelson can become a big slot receiver where he often played in college
3 SEAN LEE ILB 6ft2, 236lbs
Could have been a 1-rounder before injury
4 (Lynch) LINVAL JOSEPH DT 6ft6 332lbs
Huge man in the middle
4 NAAMAN ROOSEVELT WR 6ft 191lbs
Best receiver the national press don't report on
5 COREY PETERS DT, 6ft3 295lbs
Excellent senior season
6 JAMES STARKS RB, 6ft2, 212lbs
depth behind Fred-x
6 (Peters) MIKE KAFKA, QB 6ft3 216lbs
Great wildcat option and huge potential upside
7 (Simpson) JOHN FLETCHER, LE, 6ft6 280lbs
A decent 4-3 DE and maybe a 3-4 DE
7 CORY JACKSON FB 6ft1 245lbs

[NOT THE DUDE...]

dude we need to take graham there in the 2nd if he is there... he will be a stud, especially if schobel retires..

[Mahdi]

dude we need to take graham there in the 2nd if he is there... he will be a stud, especially if schobel retires..
I dont think Angerer lasts that long though. He should be gone by round 3.

[kernowboy]

dude we need to take graham there in the 2nd if he is there... he will be a stud, especially if schobel retires..

Are we giving up on Maybin already? - I don't think the Bills will draft a Right End, and then immediately draft a Right End at the top of the draft in back to back drafts.

If anything, they'll want to look at a LE type who can maul with an RT

[NOT THE DUDE...]

brandon graham does play le... he is 6'2 270

[kernowboy]

brandon graham does play le... he is 6'2 270

He's listed as 263lbs and I doubt he falls below Tampa Bay 1st 2-round pick

[NOT THE DUDE...]

well we could take a chanc on corey wooton who would have been a top 10 pick if not for his knee injury. he should be 100% in the fall...

[kernowboy]

well we could take a chanc on corey wooton who would have been a top 10 pick if not for his knee injury. he should be 100% in the fall...

I think the bigger issue that needs fixing is the offence. The defence will be better if they spend less time on the field.

With the loss of Owens and Reed, we need to provide additional targets for our QB

[X-Era]

well we could take a chanc on corey wooton who would have been a top 10 pick if not for his knee injury. he should be 100% in the fall...

Not overly impressed with Wooton, II think he needs more muscle and is pretty slow as a DE.

[ByrdsTheWord]

If McClain is there, you take him. Period.

You then move Poz outside.

Poz outside in a 34? LOL. You serious with this?

[Griff]

This draft is poor in the QB department, lets get a guy who can protect our QB instead of a QB who will get crushed his rookie year.

[jamze132]

Poz outside in a 34? LOL. You serious with this?
I forgot where it was stated that we are definitely moving to a 34...

[HopefulBillsFan]

we NEED Rolando.