Does Sanders change things

[patmoran2006]

To my knowledge, Sanders has never coached a 3-4 front.

Am I wrong here?

I like Sanders he did a great job last year, but this I find puzzling.

[kernowboy]

To my knowledge, Sanders has never coached a 3-4 front.

Am I wrong here?

I like Sanders he did a great job last year, but this I find puzzling.

It may well be we'll run a hybrid.

We shall see who becomes available in free agency and the draft.

But if we can draft some decent guys who are better in a 4-3 defence, then we'll take them instead of risking reaching or overpaying for strictly 3-4 guys.

There's no point in saying 3-4 and then realising the personnel cannot adapt to it and you cannot get in the right players without overpaying

[BoyILuvLoznStupidly]

I think Sanders is the defensive coordinator. It just makes sense after the latest news. Moving to a 34 would entail rebuilding both sides of the ball. Staying with a 43 makes more sense. Add a few pieces to the D and focus on rebuilding the O.

[Mitchell55]

Its mainly a 4-3 LB coach switching to 3-4 that will be effected I think. Sanders will be fine. He also coached Miami in 2000 and Florida for most of his career. Idk if they ran a 3-4

[Ed]

I would think if you're a good enough coach to make it to the elite level of the NFL, then as a position coach you should be able to coach players in any scheme. I mean it's not like you're comparing apples and oranges when talking about a 3-4 DL or a 4-3 DL. It's still the DL. So I don't think it really means anything except that they like Sanders and the job he does and want him to continue to be a part of the staff.

[BuffaloBillsHeart]

To my knowledge, Sanders has never coached a 3-4 front.

Am I wrong here?

I like Sanders he did a great job last year, but this I find puzzling.

You tell me. You were the one reporting from your source that we were moving to the 3-4.

[Mike in Syracuse]

Saying a 4-3 coach can't effectively teach a 3-4 is like saying a basketball coach that stresses man 2 man can't teach a zone. It's idiotic.

[patmoran2006]

You tell me. You were the one reporting from your source that we were moving to the 3-4.

I did. and I stand by it.

I was asking if anyone heard of Sanders workign with a 3-4 front before.

[WeAreArthurMoates]

Saying a 4-3 coach can't effectively teach a 3-4 is like saying a basketball coach that stresses man 2 man can't teach a zone. It's idiotic.

Great point.

[patmoran2006]

You tell me. You were the one reporting from your source that we were moving to the 3-4.

Bet your praying they hire a 4-3 coach so you can have at me too, huh.

only matters when your wrong. Don't suppose you'll give any credit for reporting Catavolos would be retained 9 hours before the Bills or anyone else did though, right?

[kernowboy]

Sanders served under Bates in Miami for 4 years where Bates run the 4-3 using two big DTs in Bowens and Gardner

He then worked in a similar defence in Green Bay.

I don't know what he did in college, but it was before 2000

[BoyILuvLoznStupidly]

I did. and I stand by it.

I was asking if anyone heard of Sanders workign with a 3-4 front before.

I'm betting Sanders will be the D coordinator and we will stay with the 43. You can't rebuild both sides of the ball in one season. The O needs more attention then the D does imo.

[kernowboy]

Saying a 4-3 coach can't effectively teach a 3-4 is like saying a basketball coach that stresses man 2 man can't teach a zone. It's idiotic.

but if you are bringing in a new regime you tend to go with a specialist, not hope the coach adapts alongside the players

[Jan Reimers]

I didn't know Sanders was the DC.

[BoyILuvLoznStupidly]

I didn't know Sanders was the DC.

Ya in GB, and soon to be in Buffalo imo

[patmoran2006]

I didn't know Sanders was the DC.

he's not.

(Not that I know of)

[patmoran2006]

Ya in GB, and soon to be in Buffalo imo

I would be shocked

[BoyILuvLoznStupidly]

I would be shocked

Why would you be shocked? Think about it for a moment, he knows the current roster/players. He's been a DC before. And to think the Bills would blow up the entire roster after Buddy stated he thought we were close to winning games would be foolish. I bet they replace Ellison, stay with the 43 and focus on rebuilding the O.

[kernowboy]

I could handle that.

Sanders has DC experience, he'll have learnt from his errors in GB and he knows the roster.

[kernowboy]

and Gailey and Sanders were together on the coaching staff at Miami in 2000

[patmoran2006]

Why would you be shocked? Think about it for a moment, he knows the current roster/players. He's been a DC before. And to think the Bills would blow up the entire roster after Buddy stated he thought we were close to winning games would be foolish. I bet they replace Ellison, stay with the 43 and focus on rebuilding the O.

I hope your right because I have said and written on many occasions recently that I hate the thought of a 3-4 defense with this roster makeup.

I just dont see Sanders gettign the DC job, though I have absolutely no inside info on that and its 100% a guess at this point.

[kernowboy]

I hope your right because I have said and written on many occasions recently that I hate the thought of a 3-4 defense with this roster makeup.

I just dont see Sanders gettign the DC job, though I have absolutely no inside info on that and its 100% a guess at this point.

Gailey and Sanders do have history though

[BoyILuvLoznStupidly]

I hope your right because I have said and written on many occasions recently that I hate the thought of a 3-4 defense with this roster makeup.

I just dont see Sanders gettign the DC job, though I have absolutely no inside info on that and its 100% a guess at this point.

I'm guessing to, but after the latest news you would have to believe that they already have a DC. How would you hire assistants before hand? Sanders makes the most sense in the terms of "Bills Logic"

[patmoran2006]

I'm guessing to, but after the latest news you would have to believe that they already have a DC. How would you hire assistants before hand? Sanders makes the most sense in the terms of "Bills Logic"

I have said I think they already got their guy, I just dont know who it is. If it were Sanders, why not name him DC in the release?

[BILLSROCK1212]

I smell Aaron Kampman.

[BoyILuvLoznStupidly]

I have said I think they already got their guy, I just dont know who it is. If it were Sanders, why not name him DC in the release?

Very good point and like I said I'm guessing. Maybe they are waiting to get the whole staff in place? IDK

[patmoran2006]

Very good point and like I said I'm guessing. Maybe they are waiting to get the whole staff in place? IDK

it wouldnt be the Bills if werent all left guessing.

[2Smooth]

I dont think Bob Sanders is going to be the DC. Chris Brown from BB.com says "Bob Sanders will also continue to serve on the defensive side of the ball." Then Brown says "Gailey still has coaching vacancies at defensive coordinator and special teams coordinator along with a few more offensive and defensive assistant positions." I think this is pretty telling that Bob Sanders is not going to be the DC.

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/art...2-e28749931a34

[patmoran2006]

I would put stock into Nguyen (spelling?) simply because Mark Gaughan mentioned him and that dude don't throw names out a lot.

Maybe he gets the promotion to DC?

[kernowboy]

Possibly Jim Bates is still in the mix. Sanders has worked with him, Gailey knows him. Nyugen might be the LB coach under him with Sanders on the DL again

Nguyen may have coached in a 3-4 alignment but I believe he played in a 4-3 alignment as a MLB under Dave Campo

[CoolBreeze]

I would think if you're a good enough coach to make it to the elite level of the NFL, then as a position coach you should be able to coach players in any scheme. I mean it's not like you're comparing apples and oranges when talking about a 3-4 DL or a 4-3 DL. It's still the DL. So I don't think it really means anything except that they like Sanders and the job he does and want him to continue to be a part of the staff.

Very good point.. A man with his experience should be able to adapt. Giff Smith is labeled "Defensive Assistant", who has experience coaching DL in a 3-4. I think a guy with Sanders' experience will be just fine.

[WeAreArthurMoates]

I would put stock into Nguyen (spelling?) simply because Mark Gaughan mentioned him and that dude don't throw names out a lot.

Maybe he gets the promotion to DC?

I actually said this earlier. I really think Dat could be the DC.

[YardRat]

Dat is to DC what AVP was to OC IMO. No thanks. I want a guy with NFL experience at the position.

If Sanders is named DC, my guess is we stay with the 4-3 as a base, and experiment a little throughout the year with the 3-4. If he's back as d-line coach, then it's going to be determined by who the DC is, and I don't see why Sanders can't teach the tackles and ends regardless of the scheme.

I like the basketball reference also.

[BillsWin]

Bet your praying they hire a 4-3 coach so you can have at me too, huh.

only matters when your wrong. Don't suppose you'll give any credit for reporting Catavolos would be retained 9 hours before the Bills or anyone else did though, right?

No point asking for credit Pat the respectable posters will give it to you and the others will try to take it away from you.

I posted Gailey offered to retain Sanders four days ago.

But I was also wrong about the Bills attempting to contact Jason Garrett. (At least it looks like they never called him.)

People are going to tear into you. And alot kind of them want you to be wrong so they can say I told you so.

You more than me because you have put your name out there.

Its stupid, but its part of the game. Which you are playing real well since jumping into the journalism scene with Buffalo Sports Daily I must say. Its hard to get national coverage and you are getting it.

Great site. I am a regular. :up:

[BuffaloBlakely14]

No point asking for credit Pat the respectable posters will give it to you and the others will try to take it away from you.

I posted Gailey offered to retain Sanders four days ago.

But I was also wrong about the Bills attempting to contact Jason Garrett. (At least it looks like they never called him.)

People are going to tear into you. And alot kind of them want you to be wrong so they can say I told you so.

You more than me because you have put your name out there.

Its stupid, but its part of the game. Which you are playing real well since jumping into the journalism scene with Buffalo Sports Daily I must say. Its hard to get national coverage and you are getting it.

Great site. I am a regular. :up:

It is ludicrous that Pat has to defend himself so regularly on a message board. The fact that people get so worked up about his posts blows my mind, people need to wrap their brains around the fact that this is what a message board is, rumors, opinions and a forum to be fans. Be grateful the guy is trying to get us info. He is bound to get some stuff wrong sometimes, who cares, that is what happens when you stick your neck out and try and make things happen. Pat thanks for doing what you do, don't let the others phase you.

[Nighthawk]

If Sanders was going to be the DC, don't you think they would've already announced it? He's already here...what would be the point of not saying it? Doesn't make sense...IMO.

[BuffaloBillsHeart]

Bet your praying they hire a 4-3 coach so you can have at me too, huh.

only matters when your wrong. Don't suppose you'll give any credit for reporting Catavolos would be retained 9 hours before the Bills or anyone else did though, right?

Pat for your own sake and reputation, stop being so childish, it makes you look incredible and selfish. When you report that "my source just told me the Bills are moving to the 3-4", you know as well as I that you'd better be right or else you'll look like a completely, untrustworthy fool. I respect the job you do and I tend to agree with your opinions on the Bills.
I don't have a personal preference in terms of schemes, as long as we get a strong, proven DC in here, I'll be happy. This is why I won't have an issue with us staying with the 4-3, as long as we get a proven guy like Jim Bates in here.

[BuffaloBillsHeart]

It is ludicrous that Pat has to defend himself so regularly on a message board. The fact that people get so worked up about his posts blows my mind, people need to wrap their brains around the fact that this is what a message board is, rumors, opinions and a forum to be fans. Be grateful the guy is trying to get us info. He is bound to get some stuff wrong sometimes, who cares, that is what happens when you stick your neck out and try and make things happen. Pat thanks for doing what you do, don't let the others phase you.

Actually, Pat would be smart to copy a page out of Sal Capaccio's advice book, which is: Never post anything unless you're very, very sure about it. That was at least what Sal said during this whole case with Bill Cowher and Shanahan, as he didn't want to risk looking like a fool in case he was wrong.

[DraftBoy]

Sanders as the DC just doesnt make sense to me especially if you're bring in a specific OLB and ILB coach. Can Sanders teach the 3-4 DL techniques...Im sure he can but is he the best hire? That I dont know.