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Ingtar33
02-09-2010, 06:47 PM
1) Seattle Seahawks - Sam Bradford (via trade, for 6th and 14th and 2nd round following year)
Team Needs
T1 - LT,QB
T2 - RB,S,DT,DE,WR
T3 - OG
-Biggest Problem: Offense

2) Detriot Lions - Ndamukong Suh
Team Needs
T1 - FS,CB,DE,DT
T2 - RB,G,WR,TE
T3 - OT,OLB,ILB
-Biggest Problem: defense

3) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Gerald McCoy
Team Needs
T1 - DT,DE,OLB
T2 - QB,WR,SS,CB
T3 - RB,OT,G,DT,FS
-Biggest Problem: run defense

4) Washington Redskins - Russell Okung
Team Needs
T1 - LT,C
T2 - RT,QB,WR,SS,RB
T3 - SLB,OG
-Biggest Problem: Offensive line

5) Kansas City Chiefs - Anthony Davis
Team Needs
T1 - OT,OG,C,NT
T2 - RB,OLB,WR,TE,QB
T3 - DE,ILB,CB
-Biggest Problem: Offensive Line

6) St.Louis Rams - Dez Briant
Team Needs
T1 - WR,QB
T2 - TE,ILB,CB,DE
T3 - RB,RG,DT,OLB
-Biggest Problem: passrush

7) Cleveland Browns - Eric Berry
Team Needs
T1 - WR,RT
T2 - TE,RB,DE,ILB,FS
T3 - CB,NT,QB,OLB
-Biggest Problem: WR/Defense

8) Oakland Raiders - Rolando McClain
Team Needs
T1 - QB,NT,WR
T2 - LT,RG,LB
T3 - CB,S
-Biggest Problem: Run Defense

9) Buffalo Bills - Brian Bulaga
Team Needs
T1 - QB,LT,NT
T2 - DE,ILB,WR,RT
T3 - RB,OLB,OG
-Biggest Problem: Offensive Tackles

10) Jacksonville Jaguars - Derrick Morgan
Team Needs
T1 - S,DE,OG
T2 - WR,CB,DT,C
T3 - TE,OLB,ILB,OT
-Biggest Problem: O-line/passrush

11) Denver Broncos - Carlos Dunlap
Team Needs
T1 - DE,NT
T2 - OG,C
T3 - WR,TE,ILB,CB,RB
-Biggest Problem: Run Defense

12) Miami Dolphins - Brandon Spikes
Team Needs
T1 - NT,WR,ILB
T2 - S,OLB
T3 -
-Biggest Problem: Wide Reciever/AGE on defense

13) San Francisco 49ers - Bruce Campbell
Team Needs
T1 - OLB,RT
T2 - LT,S,CB,NT
T3 - DE,OG,QB
-Biggest Problem: Passrush

14) St.Louis Rams - Jimmy Clausen
Team Needs
T1 - QB
T2 - TE,ILB,CB,DE
T3 - RB,RG,DT,OLB
-Biggest Problem: passrush

15) New York Giants - Joe Hayden
Team Needs
T1 - DT,CB,FS
T2 - MLB,RB,RT,LG
T3 - LT,C
-Biggest Problem: AGE on defense

16) Tennessee Titans - Jason Pierre-Paul
Team Needs
T1 - DE,CB
T2 - WR,DT,OLB
T3 - QB,C,OG
-Biggest Problem: Passrush

17) San Francisco 49ers - Sergio Kindle
Team Needs
T1 - OLB
T2 - LT,S,CB,NT
T3 - DE,OG,QB
-Biggest Problem: Passrush

18) Pittsburgh Steelers - Earl Thomas
Team Needs
T1 - LT,DT,CB
T2 - FS,LG,C
T3 - ILB
-Biggest Problem: Secondary

19) Atlanta Falcons - Brandon Graham
Team Needs
T1 - CB,DE
T2 - SS,DT,OLB,WR
T3 - OLB,ILB,OT
-Biggest Problem: Pass Defense

20) Houston Texans - Dan Williams
Team Needs
T1 - NT,S
T2 - OLB,LG,CB
T3 - RB
-Biggest Problem: Nosetackle

21) Cincinnati Bengals - Jermaine Gresham
Team Needs
T1 -
T2 - WR,TE,OT,DT
T3 - S,SLB
-Biggest Problem: Lack of Playmakers

22) New England Patriots - Jerry Hughes
Team Needs
T1 - DE,OLB
T2 - ILB,OG,TE, DT
T3 - WR
-Biggest Problem: Front 7

23) Green Bay Packers - Trent Williams
Team Needs
T1 - LT
T2 - RB,S
T3 - OLB
-Biggest Problem: LT/AGE

24) Philadelphia Eagles - Mike Iupati
Team Needs
T1 - RG,DE
T2 - OLB,FS,RB
T3 -
-Biggest Problem: Defensive End

25) Baltimore Ravens - Golden Tate
Team Needs
T1 - WR
T2 - CB
T3 - DE,OLB,TE
-Biggest Problem: Wide Receiver

26) Arizona Cardinals - Charles Brown
Team Needs
T1 - LT
T2 - ILB, DE
T3 - OLB,CB,TE
-Biggest Problem: Passrush

27) Dallas Cowboys - Chad Jones
Team Needs
T1 - LT
T2 - OG,FS
T3 - ILB,CB
-Biggest Problem: AGE

28) San Diego Chargers - CJ Spiller
Team Needs
T1 - RG,NT
T2 - RT,LG,RB
T3 - DE,OLB
-Biggest Problem: Runblocking

29) New York Jets - Arrelious Benn
Team Needs
T1 -
T2 - WR,DE,OLB
T3 - OG
-Biggest Problem: Passrush

30) Minnesota Vikings - Taylor Mays
Team Needs
T1 -
T2 - LT,RG,QB,S
T3 - CB
-Biggest Problem: Safety (QB if Favre Retires)

31) Indianapolis Colts - Brian Price
Team Needs
T1 - DT
T2 - OT,RG
T3 -
-Biggest Problem: O-line

32) New Orleans Saints - Sean Weatherspoon
Team Needs
T1 -
T2 - DT,DE,OLB
T3 - C
-Biggest Problem: passrush could be improved

33)St.L - Jared Odrick, DT
34)Det - Everson Griffen, DE
35)TB - Navorro Bowman, OLB
36)KC - Maurkice Pouncey, C
37)Was - Dan Lafevour, QB
38)Cle - Brandon LaFell, WR
39)Oak - Tony Pike, QB
40)Sea - Jahvid Best, RB
41)Buf - Terrence Cody, NT

Mitchell55
02-09-2010, 10:33 PM
Now, Seattle will either have Bradford or Clausen fall into there laps staying where they are. 2nd, Seattles biggest need is LT. They have none. 3rd, if we pass on Clausen without addressing QB in draft, ill be sick. Lastly, why is ILB more of a need than OLB?

YardRat
02-09-2010, 11:37 PM
I'd be surprised (and pissed) if four of the top five guys off of the board are big guys. I like that we're taking one also, though.

Ingtar33
02-10-2010, 02:26 AM
-Seattle will either have Bradford or Clausen fall into there laps staying where they are.
-2nd, Seattles biggest need is LT.
-3rd, if we pass on Clausen without addressing QB in draft, ill be sick.
-Lastly, why is ILB more of a need than OLB?

1) Bradford is worth a high first, Clausen is not IMHO. If i was in charge of Seattle my goal is to jump over Washington to guarantee i get Bradford. After looking at the 3 teams in front of Washington, i settled on StL needed more picks the most... i was meaning to make it the 2 firsts and 3rd this year... but Seattle doesn't have a 3rd this year... and the value for a 2nd next year is roughly worth a 3rd this year.

Finally... though the Rams might just sit there and take Bradford themselves, i think the mock drafts that have them taking Suh are smoking something. DT might be a need... but it's not close to the core of the myriad of problems the Rams have, and Suh won't fix their atrocious offense. I thought if a team with 2 first rounders came calling STL would seriously listen... as WR and QB is far higher on their needs list then DL.

2) yes but they have damned near as big a need at WR and QB, again, if i was in charge of the seahawks this is the move i make. that does not mean i'm right. it's just where i would go with it.

3) If we pass on LT we might as well write off next year too. Period. this isn't a joke. we can win 8 games... maybe more with Edwards, look at the Jets, right now Sanchez is a worse QB then Edwards. No QB we get will finish the year behind that line with those tackles. If by some miracle Bradford is there at 9, yes... take him over tackle. But he won't be. of that i'm fairly sure.

4) We Have 3 or 4 players who probably could do pretty good at OLB with the 34 we're switching to, we only have one maybe 2 possible ILB for the 34, had we stayed in the 43 OLB would have been a higher need... in the 34 ILB goes higher, and oddly OLB becomes less of a need.

-BTW: i did look long and hard at Carlos Dunlap and Jason Pierre-Paul at our pick. They have the body shape and size of an ideal 34 DE, but after looking at their play it was pretty clear Dunlap is too slow out of the 3 point stance to ever make an effective passrusher in the pros (he's not very physical in the run game either), and Pierre-Paul in spite of his size was way too raw to justify a pick that high. I also looked at Derrick Morgan as both a OLB/DE and came to the conclusion he would make a better 43 DE, then a 34 OLB, and a poor 34 DE (he looks smaller then his bio claims, so i doubt he's 6'4", he's probably 6'2" or shorter). I also looked At Dan Williams and reviewed Jimmy Clausen again; while Williams intrigued me, he struck me as too much of a risk that high, and i just confirmed what i already knew about Clausen (not on my team!)

Ingtar33
02-10-2010, 02:51 AM
I'd be surprised (and pissed) if four of the top five guys off of the board are big guys. I like that we're taking one also, though.

Washington, Seattle, Cleveland and KC are all likely to go OT.

It depends how the draft shakes out, but you could see 4 OTs gone before we pick. I doubt it... but it could happen.

I think it's almost guaranteed that at least 2 OTs are gone before our pick, 1 QB, and 2 DTs... beyond that i think it's a crapshoot.

JCBills
02-10-2010, 07:13 AM
Who the hell is Reynaldo McClain lol?

psubills62
02-10-2010, 10:47 AM
I like the Bulaga pick. Cody may be good value in the second, I guess I wouldn't mind that.

Just FYI, you've got Arrelious Benn going to the Jets at #29 and to Cleveland at #38.

Out of curiosity, specifically regarding the Bills, would you be happy with those two picks? Or is that just what you expect them to do?

Ebenezer
02-10-2010, 10:49 AM
9) Buffalo Bills - Brian Bulaga
•Team Needs
T1 - QB,LT,NT
T2 - DE,ILB,WR,RT
T3 - RB,OLB,OG
-Biggest Problem: Ralph Wilson

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k-oneputt
02-10-2010, 10:50 AM
Love Cody in the 2nd rd. Not big on Bulaga at #9, but I could live with it. I want Clausen at #9 if still there.

TigerJ
02-10-2010, 12:41 PM
Buffalo sounds as if they have a really top notch strength and conditioning tandem. If Terrence Cody has any motivation at all to excell, I imagine they can help him knock off the excess weight and get him to the point where he can be a four down NT who doesn't have to take a lot of plays off. The key is motivation and self discipline.

Ingtar33
02-10-2010, 01:40 PM
Who the hell is Reynaldo McClain lol?

I like the Bulaga pick. Cody may be good value in the second, I guess I wouldn't mind that.

Just FYI, you've got Arrelious Benn going to the Jets at #29 and to Cleveland at #38.

Out of curiosity, specifically regarding the Bills, would you be happy with those two picks? Or is that just what you expect them to do?

lol. fixed and fixed. thanks for reading the mock draft! Clearly you both paid more attention then i did.


Buffalo sounds as if they have a really top notch strength and conditioning tandem. If Terrence Cody has any motivation at all to excell, I imagine they can help him knock off the excess weight and get him to the point where he can be a four down NT who doesn't have to take a lot of plays off. The key is motivation and self discipline.

Yeah... i really don't like the Cody Pick, i spent a great deal of time looking at the other DTs available at that pick, and came to the conclusion, that though he might eat himself out of the league in a few short years, there really wasn't anyone else as good available.

In all reality, he might be off the board before our pick in the 2nd...





9) Buffalo Bills - Brian Bulaga
•Team Needs
T1 - QB,LT,NT
T2 - DE,ILB,WR,RT
T3 - RB,OLB,OG
-Biggest Problem: Ralph Wilsoncorrected
lol. yeah... you know i probably should have wrote that.

Mahdi
02-10-2010, 01:52 PM
Thought you said Mays wouldn't get drafted in the first 2 rounds....???

Ingtar33
02-10-2010, 03:26 PM
Thought you said Mays wouldn't get drafted in the first 2 rounds....???


I didn't like the pick either... the vikings pick was nearly Dan Lefevour or Tony Pike, but Safety (either) is hands down their biggest need right now. The problem is, while i think Mays can't play safety in the league there aren't any safeties who might be able to play pro-ball at that position in this draft from what i can see (this is a horrid draft for DBs, once you get past the top 4 guys)

So... i figured a team like the vikings might take a flier on him... because other then reaching on a QB, or maybe reaching on an OT (McKinney might have made the probowl but he was easily the weakest link on their line) who probably couldn't unseat McKinney, i reached on Safety because it's a massive need.

In all reality i don't think he can play safety in the league... so that would be a wasted pick perhaps. But i don't see anyone else who makes sense there other then QB.

Ed
02-10-2010, 04:06 PM
Washington, Seattle, Cleveland and KC are all likely to go OT.

It depends how the draft shakes out, but you could see 4 OTs gone before we pick. I doubt it... but it could happen.

I think it's almost guaranteed that at least 2 OTs are gone before our pick, 1 QB, and 2 DTs... beyond that i think it's a crapshoot.
So you don't think it's almost guaranteed that Eric Berry is gone before our pick? If he were available at #9 to the Bills do you give him any consideration even though you don't have safety listed as a need? I don't know if I could justify the pick, but he seems like a really special player for his position.

Also, I've seen some mocks that have Joe Hayden going in the top 10. Any chance of that happening? I would love to see a couple DB's off the board before our pick.

Mahdi
02-10-2010, 04:31 PM
So you don't think it's almost guaranteed that Eric Berry is gone before our pick? If he were available at #9 to the Bills do you give him any consideration even though you don't have safety listed as a need? I don't know if I could justify the pick, but he seems like a really special player for his position.

Also, I've seen some mocks that have Joe Hayden going in the top 10. Any chance of that happening? I would love to see a couple DB's off the board before our pick.
No matter what Joe Haden is a top 15 pick. If he runs a sub 4.4 40 he is a lock for top 10.

YardRat
02-10-2010, 05:08 PM
So you don't think it's almost guaranteed that Eric Berry is gone before our pick? If he were available at #9 to the Bills do you give him any consideration even though you don't have safety listed as a need? I don't know if I could justify the pick, but he seems like a really special player for his position.

Never say never...Whaley certainly knows first hand how important Troy P is to the Steeler's defense.

Ingtar33
02-10-2010, 05:18 PM
No matter what Joe Haden is a top 15 pick. If he runs a sub 4.4 40 he is a lock for top 10.


Joe Haden isn't falling past pick 16 no matter what he runs... as for top 10... i have difficulty seeing that based on team needs.

the only team in the top 10 who needs a CB badly is Detroit, and in order to take Hayden (at number 2) they'd have to pass on Berry, Suh, and McCoy, in short... unless Detroit trades back (but remains in the top10) for more picks, there is no way Hayden cracks the top 10.

So he won't go in the top 10.


So you don't think it's almost guaranteed that Eric Berry is gone before our pick? If he were available at #9 to the Bills do you give him any consideration even though you don't have safety listed as a need? I don't know if I could justify the pick, but he seems like a really special player for his position.

The first time i did this mock (i mocked the first round 3 times before settling on one that made the most sense) Berry fell to the Bills, at number 9. And yes... buffalo passed on him, Jacksonville did not.

So i think realistically, 10 is as far back as he'll fall no matter how the top 10 shake out. And i will puke if the Bills take him even if he does fall to us. We can't pass up QB/LT, not in round 1. and frankly unless the QB waiting for us is Bradford... we have to go LT; i don't care how many LTs are already off the board.

bflojohn
02-11-2010, 12:44 AM
The point is IF, and that's a BIG IF, Eric Berry is available to the Bills at #9, they will be in the drivers seat for a trade down with several teams bidding to climb over one another to select Berry. Hey, if you have all the cards, so to speak, take a sucker for all he's worth. The NY Giants achilles heel last year was their secondary, specifically safety. The Giants own pick 15, and we could garner a second from them, I feel. I'd be O.K. selecting 15,41 and 46 with an eye to fixing three positions of need!!

Mahdi
02-12-2010, 12:46 PM
Joe Haden isn't falling past pick 16 no matter what he runs... as for top 10... i have difficulty seeing that based on team needs.

the only team in the top 10 who needs a CB badly is Detroit, and in order to take Hayden (at number 2) they'd have to pass on Berry, Suh, and McCoy, in short... unless Detroit trades back (but remains in the top10) for more picks, there is no way Hayden cracks the top 10.

So he won't go in the top 10.



The first time i did this mock (i mocked the first round 3 times before settling on one that made the most sense) Berry fell to the Bills, at number 9. And yes... buffalo passed on him, Jacksonville did not.

So i think realistically, 10 is as far back as he'll fall no matter how the top 10 shake out. And i will puke if the Bills take him even if he does fall to us. We can't pass up QB/LT, not in round 1. and frankly unless the QB waiting for us is Bradford... we have to go LT; i don't care how many LTs are already off the board.
Cleveland would definitely entertain the idea of adding Haden. They only have one decent/good CB and that is Wright.

Brandon McDonald is average or worse so they can definitely use an upgrade.

You don't think Mangini would be interested in adding the next Darrell Revis?

psubills62
02-12-2010, 12:55 PM
Cleveland would definitely entertain the idea of adding Haden. They only have one decent/good CB and that is Wright.

Brandon McDonald is average or worse so they can definitely use an upgrade.

You don't think Mangini would be interested in adding the next Darrell Revis?

I'd have to agree. Cleveland is pretty poor in the secondary. While this rotoworld blurb may just be misdirection, it's logically legitimate:


The Browns believe Eric Wright can develop into a top-10 cornerback, according to Terry Pluto of the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

Pluto says the Browns believe they only have two legitimate starters in their secondary -- Wright and safety Abe Elam. Safety Brodney Pool's future is up in the air due to concussions and free agency. Pluto expects the Browns to target defensive backs in the draft, possibly using their first pick on Florida CB Joe Haden or Tennessee S Eric Berry if he slides to the No. 7 spot.

Ingtar33
02-12-2010, 04:14 PM
I'd have to agree. Cleveland is pretty poor in the secondary. While this rotoworld blurb may just be misdirection, it's logically legitimate:


safety and pass-rush are both higher need then cb... i don't think Cleveland will seriously consider hayden.

They also need WR and RT something desperate. no... i don't see Hayden going to Cleveland.

Night Train
02-14-2010, 05:13 AM
"All You Can Eat" Cody will need a full time Nutritionist to follow him everywhere. He will be high maint.

Still, he dominates the middle and would be a good 2 down NT for our 3-4. Having Stroud and Spencer Johnson on his flanks would make a solid initial front 3.

Bulaga is a crying need.

Great first 2 rounds.