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  • ChanGailey
    Veteran Zoner
    • Jan 2010
    • 262

    To those of you who want to trade Lynch

    Personally, I'm against it. And I'm not going to get into the Lynch side of it. I'm not going to argue that his value is at an all time low or that he's only 23 with 2 1000 yard seasons under his belt, and no major injuries.

    I'm not going to even mention that he's certainly one of our 5 best players.

    I'm not going to mention that Fred is 29 years old and barely broke 1000 yards with a stellar week 17 against the Colts practice squad.

    Let's look at the RB's we would have a solid chance at to replace him.

    Chester Taylor is old. Don't give me the low mileage nonsense. Why aren't there any 30 plus running backs with low miles running the ball? Its about an age thing, not necessarily a mileage thing.

    Willie Parker is a fumble factory. He is horrible and not half the player Lynch is. His main asset was speed and he's lost a lot of it. He's not even durable. He wouldn't make our roster, he'd be Dominic Rhodes'd.

    So look to the draft. Your nuts if you think we can spare our top 3 picks on this, and the consensus odds on compensation is a 3rd round pick, either from Philly or San Diego. Look at the RB's that will be available in the bottom of round 3, according to Walter Football who I feel knows his stuff.


    Hardly an impressive running back crop. Their all either Freds size or their oversized fullback types. Personally, I'm not even particularly impressed with Gerharts athleticism. He seems slow and not very quick. He's a product of a power running college system. How many of these guys have we seen flame out?

    Lynch is a guy who's only 23 and has 2 good NFL seasons under his belt. He's set to make $800K. The fact is, he's the best, cheapest RB option we have, all things considered.

    If you just want him gone because you don't like him as a person, then cite that as a reason. There is no football sense in moving him.

    You need 3 running backs. We have 2.

    If you look at his game log this past season, you see he wasn't all that ineffective. You can coincide bad games with major line injuries. Not that our line was great to begin with.

    You don't ditch a guy who's giving you solid seasons 66% of the time.

    *Ha, I said I was going to say that. Sorry, I just can't ignore the obvious information.
    Last edited by ChanGailey; 02-17-2010, 02:39 PM.
  • Prov401
    President of WADL (Whitner Anti-Defamation League)
    • Aug 2008
    • 1651

    #2
    Re: To those of you who want to trade Lynch

    I'd be pissed if we traded Lynch.

    I really believe behind the right O-Line...Lynch and Jackson can be the best 1-2 combo in the NFL.

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    • patmoran2006
      Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
      • Dec 2005
      • 19840

      #3
      Re: To those of you who want to trade Lynch

      Originally posted by ChanGailey
      Personally, I'm against it. And I'm not going to get into the Lynch side of it. I'm not going to argue that his value is at an all time low or that he's only 23 with 2 1000 yard seasons under his belt, and no major injuries.

      I'm not going to even mention that he's certainly one of our 5 best players.

      I'm not going to mention that Fred is 29 years old and barely broke 1000 yards with a stellar week 17 against the Colts practice squad.

      Let's look at the RB's we would have a solid chance at to replace him.

      Chester Taylor is old. Don't give me the low mileage nonsense. Why aren't there any 30 plus running backs with low miles running the ball? Its about an age thing, not necessarily a mileage thing.

      Willie Parker is a fumble factory. He is horrible and not half the player Lynch is. His main asset was speed and he's lost a lot of it. He's not even durable. He wouldn't make our roster, he'd be Dominic Rhodes'd.

      So look to the draft. Your nuts if you think we can spare our top 3 picks on this, and the consensus odds on compensation is a 3rd round pick, either from Philly or San Diego. Look at the RB's that will be available in the bottom of round 3, according to Walter Football who I feel knows his stuff.


      Hardly an impressive running back crop. Their all either Freds size or their oversized fullback types. Personally, I'm not even particularly impressed with Gerharts athleticism. He seems slow and not very quick. He's a product of a power running college system. How many of these guys have we seen flame out?

      Lynch is a guy who's only 23 and has 2 good NFL seasons under his belt. He's set to make $800K. The fact is, he's the best, cheapest RB option we have, all things considered.

      If you just want him gone because you don't like him as a person, then cite that as a reason. There is no football sense in moving him.

      You need 3 running backs. We have 2.

      If you look at his game log this past season, you see he wasn't all that ineffective. You can coincide bad games with major line injuries. Not that our line was great to begin with.

      You don't ditch a guy who's giving you solid seasons 66% of the time.

      *Ha, I said I was going to say that. Sorry, I just can't ignore the obvious information.
      I have no problem listening to your opinion or anyone else's. We're all entitled to them.

      1. He's been surpassed by Fred Jackson the depth chart and by all accounts didn't handle it well. It was fairly obvious to anybody that he looked disinterested and ran with far less "passion" than his first two years. Some players handle backup/platoon roles (like say a Chester Taylor) and some don't. To me, Lynch looks like the kind of back who needs the ball 20-25 times per game and that's not going to happen with Jackson in tow. Not every player can be a solid backup, and I think Lynch falls into that category.

      2. I couldn't begin to disagree with you more that he's one of the top five players on this team. Just off the top of my head: Fred Jackson, Jairus Byrd, Drayton Florence, Lee Evans and Brian Moorman come to mind. And I'm not including guys who have big upside like Wood, Poz and Levitre. George Wilson is a warrior too who produced when he finally got a chance to start.

      3. If the Bills are going to trade him, this is the season to do it. Biggest reason is he has TWO years left on his deal. If they waited until next year, a team would then not only have to surrender a good pick, but be willing to extend him before a deal was made (like Baltimore did with McGahee). His value is as high as its going to get now.

      4. As far as his numbers last year, he only averaged 3.8 yards per carry, and 82 of his 450 total rushing yards came on just two carries, one of which went completely untouched. Take away two carries and his season average is 3.18

      5. I admit to not liking him as a person, in fact I think he's a douche bag who's ignorant to a lot of people. But even that aside, you can't brush off the fact that he's one strike away from getting into MAJOR trouble-- and given the way he conducts himself are you going to bet he suddenly decides to keep his nose clean and stray away from bad crowds? I don't.
      Last edited by patmoran2006; 02-17-2010, 04:07 PM.


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      • HHURRICANE
        Registered User
        • Mar 2005
        • 15490

        #4
        Re: To those of you who want to trade Lynch

        I actually think that Lynch is a victim of bad coaching and horrible line play. I think Jackson is faster to the hole and a better runner but Lynch could be extremely effective on this team.

        I also think Lynch is not the scumbag that everyone here thinks he is. Is he an immature idiot that needs to lose some of street background? Yes. Do i think he can turn into a good football player? Yes.

        If you aren't sure look what happened to Anthony Hargrove when he was coached properly.

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        • BillsOwnAll
          My IQ Test results came back negative
          • Oct 2002
          • 5502

          #5
          Re: To those of you who want to trade Lynch

          Originally posted by patmoran2006
          4. As far as his numbers last year, he only averaged 3.8 yards per carry, and 82 of his 450 total rushing yards came on just two carries, one of which went completely untouched. Take away two carries and his season average is 3.18
          .

          I agree with some things you say and some you dont. But SOME people on this board like to play this game. You cant take away his 2 biggest plays. Why would you do that? How come you didnt take away his 2 worst ones? He earned those yards. He had the vision to see the hole then hit it and had to speed to get through it. Hes not going to run through someone every 30 yard run, no running back does that. 3.8 is a healthy average behind a sub par line.

          That said, I personally think we need him. Ya hes trouble off the field. But we need two quality backs. Id say draft one in a late round and stick him behind freddy and marshawn and hope he learns and devolpes because we need marshawn now but not long term.

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          • Ebenezer
            Give me a minute...
            • Jul 2002
            • 73867

            #6
            Re: To those of you who want to trade Lynch

            Running backs are a common commodity...trade him and draft another.




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            • patmoran2006
              Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
              • Dec 2005
              • 19840

              #7
              Re: To those of you who want to trade Lynch

              Bottom line is Fred Jackson is the starter, Lynch didnt look like a player interested in 5-10 carries per game, and he has current value, so if you're going to trade him, this is the year to do it.


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              • alohabillsfan
                Registered User
                • Sep 2003
                • 3206

                #8
                Re: To those of you who want to trade Lynch

                trade him, RB are a dime a dozen

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                • ChanGailey
                  Veteran Zoner
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 262

                  #9
                  Re: To those of you who want to trade Lynch

                  Its just funny people would prefer cromartie, who olays runners and has a travis henry like army of illegit kids spanning 5 states.

                  Lynch runs hard. He was always first to show fred love. 29 year old rbs tend to get hurt. So if fred goes down you want a 3rd round rookie touching the ball 20 times a game?

                  Not me.

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                  • ChanGailey
                    Veteran Zoner
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 262

                    #10
                    Re: To those of you who want to trade Lynch

                    The rb gets hit the most. We of all people know that players wind up on injured reserve. You all complain about how the team won't add depth, and then want to trade away all of your rb depth.

                    And I would hardly crown fred as an nfl starter. He's 29, certainly not top 15. So why get rid of a guy who finished in the top 4 in the afc only 1 season ago?

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                    • BuffaloBlitz83
                      We play to win the game!
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 5754

                      #11
                      Re: To those of you who want to trade Lynch

                      He's not getting traded. You can't trade him now at his lowest value. The best you could get now is a 4th or 5th with his bad season and off field issues. Teams would prefer to use a 1, 2, or 3 on a younger rb with less miles and cleaner nose.

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                      • Mr. Pink
                        Peterman Sucks!
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 35303

                        #12
                        Re: To those of you who want to trade Lynch

                        Personally I'd trade him for a 4th.

                        He's a distraction, doesn't seem to like being the second fiddle and will walk away for nothing in 2 years.

                        Right now he really adds ZERO value to the team in the backup role.

                        A 4th round pick may add value.

                        Easy call in my opinion.

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                        • TacklingDummy
                          Unreachable Douche
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 71728

                          #13
                          Re: To those of you who want to trade Lynch

                          Originally posted by alohabillsfan
                          trade him, RB are a dime a dozen
                          RB like Lynch are a dime a dozen, then there are elite backs like AP and Chris Johnson, who the Bills could have drafted.

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                          • Night Train
                            Retired - On Several Levels
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 33117

                            #14
                            Re: To those of you who want to trade Lynch

                            If the player you speak of is not the front line starter, he's expendable.

                            Lynch is 1 strike away from a 1 year suspension and still has a penchant for swiping $20 bills and doing bongs.

                            I was happy when we drafted him but his limited brain obviously never left the hood.

                            Now that Fred Jackson has surpassed him, I can see a new coach wanting a clean locker room and backup RB's are usually very easy to find between now and camp.

                            Stay tuned.
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                            • ChanGailey
                              Veteran Zoner
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 262

                              #15
                              Re: To those of you who want to trade Lynch

                              Fred gets injured.

                              Then you have either a 3rd or 4th round rooking starting or Willie Parker.

                              Boldin was a distraction in Arizona, but he was signed cheap and was worth keeping. The same with Lynch. Again, if he had a huge cap number, then his trouble or whatever could be a risk. But he's got salary numbers less, probably less than what a 3rd rounder would take his first season.

                              Based on value, need, current holes, the market...Everything considered. It's stupid to trade him.

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