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  • Mahdi
    Registered User
    • Mar 2004
    • 10585

    Offseason Overview

    1. St-Louis -- Sam Bradford -- QB -- Oklahoma

    2. Detroit -- Ndamukong Suh -- DT - Nebraska

    3. Tampa Bay -- Gerald McCoy -- DT -- Oklahoma

    4. Washington -- Eric Berry -- S -- Tennessee

    5. Kansas City -- Russell Okung -- OT -- Oklahoma State

    6. Seattle -- Derrick Morgan -- DE -- Georgia Tech

    7. Cleveland -- Joe Haden -- CB -- Florida

    8. Oakland -- Carlos Dunlap -- DE -- Florida

    9. Buffalo -- Dez Bryant -- WR -- Oklahoma State

    10. Jacksonville -- Brandon Graham -- DE -- Michigan

    11. Denver -- Rolando McClain -- ILB -- Alabama

    12. Miami -- Dan Williams -- NT -- Tennessee

    13. San Fran -- Bryan Bulaga -- OT -- Iowa

    14. Seattle -- Jimmy Clausen -- QB -- Notre Dame

    15. New York Giants -- Golden Tate -- WR -- Notre Dame

    16. Tennessee Titans -- Jason Pierre-Paul -- DE -- South Florida

    17. San Fran -- Jerry Hughes - OLB - Texas Christian

    18. Pittsburgh -- CJ Spiller -- RB -- Clemson

    19. Atlanta -- Brandon Lafell -- WR -- LSU

    20. Houston -- Mike Iupati -- OG -- Idaho

    21. Cincinnati -- Jermaine Gresham -- TE -- Oklahoma

    22. New England -- Sergio Kindle -- OLB -- Texas

    23. Green Bay -- Bruce Campbell -- OT -- Maryland

    24. Philadelphia -- Everson Griffen -- DE -- USC

    25. Baltimore Ravens -- Donovan Warren -- CB -- Michigan

    26. Arizona -- Anthony Davis -- OT -- Rutgers

    27. Dallas -- Earl Thomas -- S -- Texas

    28. San Diego -- Brandon Spikes -- ILB -- Florida

    29. NY Jets -- Ricky Sapp -- OLB -- Clemson

    30. Minnesota -- Sean Weatherspoon -- OLB -- Missouri

    31. Indianapolis -- Brian Price -- DT -- UCLA

    32. New Orleans -- Taylor Mays -- S -- USC



    41. Buffalo -- Eric Norwood -- OLB -- South Carolina -- 6'1 252

    73. Buffalo -- Jared Veldheer -- OT -- Hillsdale -- 6'8 321

    108. Buffalo -- Zac Robinson -- QB -- Oklahoma State -- 6'2 210

    142. Buffalo -- Chris McCoy -- OLB -- Middle Tennessee -- 6'4 250

    181. Buffalo -- Clifton Geathers -- DE -- South Carolina -- 6'4 244

    195. Buffalo -- Ryan D'Imporio -- ILB -- Rutgers -- 6'3 -- 245

    213. Buffalo -- Dedrick Epps -- TE -- Miami -- 6'4 255

    220. Buffalo -- Travis Ivey -- NT -- Maryland -- 6'4 325



    FA: LT Tra Thomas , QB David Carr, OLB Joey Porter, DE Corey Redding


    Offense:

    QB competition: Zac Robinson, Brian Brohm, David Carr, Trent Edwards

    RBs: Lynch, Jackson

    TEs: Nelson, Schouman, Epps

    OL: Tra Thomas -- Levitre -- Wood -- Incognito -- Butler (Hangarter primary backup at C and G, Bell and Meredith OTs)

    WR: Lee Evans, Dez Bryant, Hardy, Johnson, Parrish


    Defense:

    LE: Stroud -- NT: Harvey/ Ivey -- RE: Corey Redding (Sp. Johnson, KW, McCargo camp battle for depth jobs)

    OLB: Porter ILB: Poz ILB: Mitchell OLB: Norwood (Maybin and Norwood battle in camp for starter job, loser learns behind Porter for 1 or 2 years.)

    CBs: McGee, McKelvin, Florence, Corner,

    S: Whitner, Byrd, Wilson,


    It's not a full roster but I have the key pieces in place the rest are fill ins.
    Last edited by Mahdi; 02-18-2010, 11:12 AM.
  • patmoran2006
    Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
    • Dec 2005
    • 19840

    #2
    Re: Offseason Overview

    I see no way in hell the Bills take Dez Bryant.. NONE

    1- He's a WR and I do not see us taking one with what we need.

    2- He's a HUGE talent and may be a stud, but he's a troubled one.. and Nix has said many many times already he wants guys that have proven it on the field over the long haul.. Bryant didnt even play half of last season.

    No way.


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    • Mahdi
      Registered User
      • Mar 2004
      • 10585

      #3
      Re: Offseason Overview

      Originally posted by patmoran2006
      I see no way in hell the Bills take Dez Bryant.. NONE

      1- He's a WR and I do not see us taking one with what we need.

      2- He's a HUGE talent and may be a stud, but he's a troubled one.. and Nix has said many many times already he wants guys that have proven it on the field over the long haul.. Bryant didnt even play half of last season.

      No way.
      Bryant is a proven player. There is no doubt about that.

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      • DraftBoy
        Administrator
        • Jul 2002
        • 107443

        #4
        Re: Offseason Overview

        Dez Bryant in Round 1, zoners are going to hate it. Good job overall though1
        COMING SOON...
        Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
        We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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        • Mahdi
          Registered User
          • Mar 2004
          • 10585

          #5
          Re: Offseason Overview

          Originally posted by DraftBoy
          Dez Bryant in Round 1, zoners are going to hate it. Good job overall though1
          I just see it as another possibility. Our offense needs to put up points and he is quote possibly the next Larry Fitzgerald.

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          • patmoran2006
            Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
            • Dec 2005
            • 19840

            #6
            Re: Offseason Overview

            Originally posted by Mahdi
            Bryant is a proven player. There is no doubt about that.
            not by Buddy Nix's standards.

            Dont get me wrong man, he's a great talent. he can be an All Pro WR for sure.

            I just see zero chance the Bills take him in the first round.

            Its OT or Defensive Front Seven help with first pick, with outside shot at QB is Bradford or Clausen is there.. In my opinion, those are the only three options.


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            • DraftBoy
              Administrator
              • Jul 2002
              • 107443

              #7
              Re: Offseason Overview

              Originally posted by patmoran2006
              not by Buddy Nix's standards.

              Dont get me wrong man, he's a great talent. he can be an All Pro WR for sure.

              I just see zero chance the Bills take him in the first round.

              Its OT or Defensive Front Seven help with first pick, with outside shot at QB is Bradford or Clausen is there.. In my opinion, those are the only three options.
              Explain how a former All-American WR, consensus top WR is not to Buddy Nix's standard of proven exactly?
              COMING SOON...
              Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
              We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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              • patmoran2006
                Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                • Dec 2005
                • 19840

                #8
                Re: Offseason Overview

                Originally posted by DraftBoy
                Explain how a former All-American WR, consensus top WR is not to Buddy Nix's standard of proven exactly?
                He has said that he wants players that have had long college careers and proven it on the field. Wasn't Bryant suspended for most of 2009?

                The Bills need an offensive tackle and defensive front seven help far more than Dez Bryant.

                I dont dislike Bryant.. He could be a Pro Bowler for another team, but its not going to be Buffalo.


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                • Ickybaluky
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 8884

                  #9
                  Re: Offseason Overview

                  My initial thought is it still leaves the BIlls pretty weak on the OL. Tra Thomas is pretty used up at this point, and Butler hasn't really shown he is a starting-caliber NFL player. It seems the Bills would be repeating the mistake of a year ago in not addressing that position better.

                  The Bills can use an upgrade to Incognito at OG. He has talent, but he is a stupid player. Stephen Neal would be a good fit for what Buffalo wants to do. He is an OG who has great balance and can pull to lead runs outside, and he is tough as nails. I hope the Pats bring him back, but they probably invest the resources elsewhere. I think Neal gets a pretty good contract.

                  Also, Corey Redding is a real question in a 3-4. He was strictly a 4-3 player with the Lions and Seahawks, playing DE and DT, and he isn't really the kind of physical player you need in a 3-4 DE.

                  Overall, though, I give you credit for not being unreasonable. Nothing there is out of the question, and Bryant is an interesting talent. I don't know about Larry Fitzgerald, buit he definitely has the ability to be a #1 WR.

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                  • DraftBoy
                    Administrator
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 107443

                    #10
                    Re: Offseason Overview

                    Originally posted by patmoran2006
                    He has said that he wants players that have had long college careers and proven it on the field. Wasn't Bryant suspended for most of 2009?

                    The Bills need an offensive tackle and defensive front seven help far more than Dez Bryant.

                    I dont dislike Bryant.. He could be a Pro Bowler for another team, but its not going to be Buffalo.
                    Bryant had two excellent years at Ok State and was on his way to a third when the NCAA screwed him over on a ruling. He didnt get suspended for character issues, the NCAA made him a poster boy and it wasn't fair.

                    I agree with you that OT and DT are bigger needs but they aren't are only needs. We have a huge hole at #2 WR as well.
                    COMING SOON...
                    Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                    We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                    • DraftBoy
                      Administrator
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 107443

                      #11
                      Re: Offseason Overview

                      Originally posted by NE39
                      My initial thought is it still leaves the BIlls pretty weak on the OL. Tra Thomas is pretty used up at this point, and Butler hasn't really shown he is a starting-caliber NFL player. It seems the Bills would be repeating the mistake of a year ago in not addressing that position better.

                      The Bills can use an upgrade to Incognito at OG. He has talent, but he is a stupid player. Stephen Neal would be a good fit for what Buffalo wants to do. He is an OG who has great balance and can pull to lead runs outside, and he is tough as nails. I hope the Pats bring him back, but they probably invest the resources elsewhere. I think Neal gets a pretty good contract.
                      Also, Corey Redding is a real question in a 3-4. He was strictly a 4-3 player with the Lions and Seahawks, playing DE and DT, and he isn't really the kind of physical player you need in a 3-4 DE.

                      Overall, though, I give you credit for not being unreasonable. Nothing there is out of the question, and Bryant is an interesting talent. I don't know about Larry Fitzgerald, buit he definitely has the ability to be a #1 WR.
                      Bills have Eric Wood and Andy Levitre at OG, I dont think they are picking up a 4th OG, unless Wood isn't ready or he's moving to OC. In which case Hangartner would be the 4th backup.
                      COMING SOON...
                      Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                      We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                      • Ed
                        Dude
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 9247

                        #12
                        Re: Offseason Overview

                        Originally posted by patmoran2006
                        He has said that he wants players that have had long college careers and proven it on the field. Wasn't Bryant suspended for most of 2009?

                        The Bills need an offensive tackle and defensive front seven help far more than Dez Bryant.

                        I dont dislike Bryant.. He could be a Pro Bowler for another team, but its not going to be Buffalo.
                        I think Buddy Nix was talking more about one year wonders and workout warriors. I don't think Bryant fits into that category.

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                        • Ickybaluky
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 8884

                          #13
                          Re: Offseason Overview

                          Originally posted by DraftBoy
                          Bills have Eric Wood and Andy Levitre at OG, I dont think they are picking up a 4th OG, unless Wood isn't ready or he's moving to OC. In which case Hangartner would be the 4th backup.
                          Is Wood even going to be ready? I'd be shocked if he didn't start the year as a PUP.

                          I just think Neal would be a great fit for a team like the Bills, who want to run a lot. Neal is an underrated player, a real solid OG with the athleticism to get outside and to the second level to block.

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                          • DraftBoy
                            Administrator
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 107443

                            #14
                            Re: Offseason Overview

                            Originally posted by NE39
                            Is Wood even going to be ready? I'd be shocked if he didn't start the year as a PUP.

                            I just think Neal would be a great fit for a team like the Bills, who want to run a lot. Neal is an underrated player, a real solid OG with the athleticism to get outside and to the second level to block.
                            There was a report (can't find it now naturally) that said he should be back in time for camp, which surprised the hell out of me. If he isn't Id love to have Neal, he's the ideal fit for us, but his price will likely be too high.
                            COMING SOON...
                            Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                            We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                            • patmoran2006
                              Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 19840

                              #15
                              Re: Offseason Overview

                              Originally posted by DraftBoy
                              Bryant had two excellent years at Ok State and was on his way to a third when the NCAA screwed him over on a ruling. He didnt get suspended for character issues, the NCAA made him a poster boy and it wasn't fair.

                              I agree with you that OT and DT are bigger needs but they aren't are only needs. We have a huge hole at #2 WR as well.
                              lets put it this way; If Mahdi is right and the Bills drafted Bryant, I wouldn't be the least upset.. I love talented playmakers.

                              Bryant has elite talent potential, so does McClain (IMO)

                              Having said that, I just dont see anyway that it happens.

                              I see OT, with an outside shot of taking Clausen should he be there, and I wouldnt discount Derrick Morgan at all if he's there either, who has that obvious Gailey connection.


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